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low98944
post Jan 21 2010, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Jan 21 2010, 10:57 PM)
Malaysia S1/US S1

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3D Color ManagementĀ  Yes/No
600Hz Sub-field DriveĀ  No/Yes
Rated Power Consumption 350w/298w
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Where you get your info.? Malaysia don't have S1 only S10

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post Jan 21 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 21 2010, 11:00 PM)
Where you get your info.? Malaysia don't have S1 only S10
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Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10.

Visit http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/productsso...v/plasmatvlcdtv


Added on January 22, 2010, 12:42 amMalaysia S1/US S1

600Hz Sub-field Drive No but instead 550Hz/Yes
PC Input Yes/No
G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panell/G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panel NeoPDP

Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10.

Malaysian S10 is not that "inferior" to the US S1

When I bought mine on Christmas Day 2009 in PJ, the shop reported it was the last one left. It was selling fast & I think by now there is no more stock left.

Bought mine for RM3,050.00. Hope the price for the new Malaysian S2 2010 model will not increase.

Thanks

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post Jan 22 2010, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Jan 21 2010, 11:21 PM)
Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10. 

Visit http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/productsso...v/plasmatvlcdtv


Added on January 22, 2010, 12:42 amMalaysia S1/US S1

600Hz Sub-field Drive  No but instead 550Hz/Yes
PC Input  Yes/No
G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panell/G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panel NeoPDP

Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10.

Malaysian S10 is not that "inferior" to the US S1

When I bought mine on Christmas Day 2009 in PJ, the shop reported it was the last one left.  It was selling fast & I think by now there is no more stock left.

Bought mine for RM3,050.00.  Hope the price for the new Malaysian S2 2010 model will not increase.

Thanks
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Asian version of S1/S10 does not utilize the NeoPDP panel. Contrast ratios are different than US model. It is inferior.
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:04 AM

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Malaysian version of S10 already withdrawn from the market. no clear reason why is it withdrawn & not the older X & C series.

However few users of S10 did posted their experience wth screen burn in!! check or search for "Panasonic screen burn" thread
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:11 AM

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Alamak! Another pinned topic? At this rate all postings will be pinned.
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 22 2010, 09:04 AM)
Malaysian version of S10 already withdrawn from the market. no clear reason why is it withdrawn & not the older X & C series.

However few users of S10 did posted their experience wth screen burn in!! check or search for "Panasonic screen burn" thread
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I already replied why it is out of stock but somehow, no one seems to want to accept the reason. Not planning to revisit the burn in stuff.

What I can say is that each technology has its merits and disadvantages.

I have calibrated quite a few plasmas. So far, I have not seen burn in on any of them. Some with only astro viewing. I have a plasma with over 2000hrs on it, my kids watch the playhouse disney channel (bright logo in corner ) and I watch a lot of sports (ESPN logo) with no hint of burn in or irregular wear of pixels. I have a friend who has already notched 1000hrs on a plasma with 95% astro only, also channels with bright logos, but no hint of irregular wear. However,no electronics is 100% foolproof however. There will be problems on any set, any brand any model.

If u r worried about IR/burn in, get a LCD. Don't look back. Live with its limitations. Plasma technology like CRT will be prone to IR. It is the way the technology works. However, on newer panels, especially after initial phospor wear, it is less of a concern
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:32 AM

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for me, use CRT for so long also no burn in.. how come now so concerned??
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:39 AM

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For the Luv.. biggrin.gif Getting fed-up seeing lotsa plasma/LCD recommendation so I choose the general & the most version one to be pinned rclxms.gif

@anfieldude...The reason of rplacing wth newer model doesn't make sense mah when the older X & C series still in the market

Must be something cooking there.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:11 AM)
Alamak! Another pinned topic? At this rate all postings will be pinned.
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post Jan 22 2010, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 22 2010, 09:39 AM)
For the Luv.. biggrin.gif  Getting fed-up seeing lotsa plasma/LCD recommendation so I choose the general & the most version one to be pinned  rclxms.gif

@anfieldude...The reason of rplacing wth newer model doesn't make sense mah when the older X & C series still in the market

Must be something cooking there.. biggrin.gif
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The S10 model that is for Asian market is a different panel. Worldwide S10 was a Full HD NeoPDP panel. It was only in limited production thus after the initial production run, production ceased and moved to NeoPDP.

The X10 that is sold here, is for worldwide market. The C10 is the same panel as the X10. U do realise that the X is also almost out of stock, except with the big chain stores. This is due the stocking agreement they have with Panny Malaysia. The 720p panels were the most manufactured as it was cheap. Also the AR was pretty dismal. The G10 locally uses the same panel as the G10 worldwide minus the THX, so firmware controlled the region release.

The V and the Z series are worldwide release.

There is nothing sinister or conspiracy theory on this.

Also production for 2010 models starts in Q4 as testing and sampling for various goverment agencies around the world is submitted usually in Q1 2010. Late Q1 and early Q2 u will start seeing the intro of the entry level and the mid entry level. The higher end models are usually released in late Q2/Q3. This enables them to iron out the electronics problems seen on the initial production.

This is pretty standard for Panny.

Also the Sammys are pretty similar as is LG/Sharp and the rest.
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Ok now abit of sense haha
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 22 2010, 09:59 AM)
Ok now abit of sense haha
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What do you think about this 2 models? Pana Plasma X model Vs Sharp L40A77M model. Which can give better picture quality and performance? Thank you...
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I'm not an expert-lah. Well if u ask me go for the ohne wth more features, better picture quality by comparing side by side & value for money.

I'm not sure ur LG..Is it Plasma or LCD? For better comparison u should decide 1st whether to choose LCD 1st or Plasma 1st & thereafter comparing LCD Panny Vs LCD LG or Plasma Panny Vs plasma LG

Both Plasma & LCD having diff characteristics...For me after owning a LG LCD for past 2 yrs, boring dy & got a big X series Panny...Reason bcos it's bigger than my old LCD, more HDMI, it's no longer flimsy plastic screen but glass & comparatively (My eye only) Almost as good as others & value for money RM2400 nia..
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 22 2010, 09:49 AM)
The S10 model that is for Asian market is a different panel. Worldwide S10 was a Full HD NeoPDP panel. It was only in limited production thus after the initial production run, production ceased and moved to NeoPDP.

The X10 that is sold here, is for worldwide market. The C10 is the same panel as the X10. U do realise that the X is also almost out of stock, except with the big chain stores. This is due the stocking agreement they have with Panny Malaysia. The 720p panels were the most manufactured as it was cheap. Also the AR was pretty dismal. The G10 locally uses the same panel as the G10 worldwide minus the THX, so firmware controlled the region release.

The V and the Z series are worldwide release.

There is nothing sinister or conspiracy theory on this.

Also production for 2010 models starts in Q4 as testing and sampling for various goverment agencies around the world is submitted usually in Q1 2010. Late Q1 and early Q2 u will start seeing the intro of the entry level and the mid entry level. The higher end models are usually released in late Q2/Q3. This enables them to iron out the electronics problems seen on the initial production.

This is pretty standard for Panny.

Also the Sammys are pretty similar as is LG/Sharp and the rest.
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Thanks anfieldud for the above post.

"was really going to spring for the panasonic plasma G10 display till I read that the black levels on the generation 12 panels will increase over time. It will rise to level that is twice that when you first switch it on. Probably at the 1000 hour mark or less. Has anyone experienced the black levels are rising ? blacks now looks gray instead of black ? this is a concern of mine. I'm looking for a 40-42" display. I only watch some TV and mostly DVDs. At the size I'm looking at, the Panny's are the only choice for Plasma. But if the rising black levels are not addressed, I'll switch to a Samsung Series 6 LCD panel"


Read the above recently in a forum.

Please read here also:-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1167339

Please comment.

Thanks in advance.

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post Jan 23 2010, 01:07 AM

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maybe it'should be black levels decresing over time? (means get worse) ??

(if black levels are increasing means the blacks are improving right?) tongue.gif
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anyone knows how to check hours usage of panny G10?

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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Jan 23 2010, 12:33 AM)
Thanks anfieldud for the above post.

"was really going to spring for the panasonic plasma G10 display till I read that the black levels on the generation 12 panels will increase over time. It will rise to level that is twice that when you first switch it on. Probably at the 1000 hour mark or less. Has anyone experienced the black levels are rising ? blacks now looks gray instead of black ? this is a concern of mine. I'm looking for a 40-42" display. I only watch some TV and mostly DVDs. At the size I'm looking at, the Panny's are the only choice for Plasma. But if the rising black levels are not addressed, I'll switch to a Samsung Series 6 LCD panel"


Read the above recently in a forum.

Please read here also:-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1167339

Please comment.

Thanks in advance.
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I have read and talked to some calibrators in the US that the US G series (THX) has a problem where the black levels are increasing with time. It is a firmware bug and it is not clear if it being addressed correctly. The voltage adjustment mechanism is not correct and as such the black levels increase with time. However, I cannot confirm if the same issue applies for our sets as our firmware is different.

ar188,
It is increase as it normally it is measured as ft/L or cd/m2 and the lower is better.


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Bro anfieldude,

You wake up so early on Sat wan ah?? notworthy.gif
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post Jan 23 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 23 2010, 11:07 AM)
Bro anfieldude,

You wake up so early on Sat wan ah??  notworthy.gif
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I have a 3yr old who acts as an alarm clock, no matter what time he sleeps, he wakes up at 7am or earlier!

BTW: When can I come calibrate ur plasma?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 23 2010, 01:42 PM)
I have a 3yr old who acts as an alarm clock, no matter what time he sleeps, he wakes up at 7am or earlier!

BTW: When can I come calibrate ur plasma?
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At least your 3 year old lets U use the PC. My 2 year old will wake me up at 7am on the dot and I can't do anything... sweat.gif
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biggrin.gif alarm clock??

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