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 ASUS k40AB/k50AB v2, Good budget laptop w/HD4570

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post Jan 24 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(NaGeNaZ @ Jan 24 2010, 12:47 PM)
Marketing gimmick for using 1GB graphics memory. I think it's going to be GDDR3 or worse DDR3.

Now this would suit you better than AW M11x or Asus UL series. Although GT330 is still way better than HD5470. And except for battery life perhaps.

Will cost about RM2.7k - 2.9k ?
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Exactly, Its better to opt for smaller but fast memory on low end cards, I would rather have 256MB GDDR3 than 512MB DDR2 in HD4570, likewise on HD5470, its better to have 512MB GDDR5 than 1GB of worthless DDR3, I bet the clockspeed is only at paltry 800MHz doh.gif

Memory bandwidth of only 8GB/s on our k40AB is pathetic in today games, heck its pathetic in last two years or so, and if it indeed using 800MHz DDR3 in k42 the bandwidth is only 12.8GB/s, compared to mighty 28.8GB/s if they use 900MHz GDDR5 (up to 32GB/s if uses 1GHz)

I swear to God if there is notebook manufacturer uses GDDR5 on HD5470 on 14" display or less I would buy it without even thinking of Alienware M11x, provide that the price is reasonable that is. Even though it only have 4 ROPs even the small increment in memory speed will provide a significant performance improvement because of its high core clocks. Of course Alienware M11x GT 335M (not GT 330M mind you, different core if Notebookcheck is accurate) would be miles better as it have 72 stream processor and 128-bit memory, but unless it uses Core i5 at least I won't buy it, it would lag on some games that dependant on clockspeed

I've been reading AMD would release Phenom II X4 for laptop, but the clockspeed is only around 2~2.3GHz IIRC. I would wait for that just wanted to see how AMD stacks up

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post Jan 31 2010, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(chugeliang @ Jan 31 2010, 12:52 AM)
ok i'll look through asus's website thx..
so dats mean after i install the latest driver , the powerxpress mode can be use in win7 lo ?
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Have you even bother to read the first page? Its been written there, PowerXpress have worked ages ago, its only have problems during initial driver and BIOS when it first come out

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post Feb 1 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(sheikomatic @ Feb 1 2010, 11:11 PM)
i've checked my friend K50AB with bios version 218 but i cant find the graphic card selection/PowerXpress.. is it normal?

or do i need to flash it to 220 to be able to use it?

the old bios version 201 has, i've flashed mine to 220 and PowerXpress worked perfectly, its weird bios 218 didnt have that
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Hmm, IIRC 8tvt don't even have HD3200 onboard regardless what BIOS he use. I tried many BIOS including the one they pull out, all worked well with PowerXpress
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post Feb 2 2010, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(W_A_F_D_I @ Feb 2 2010, 01:03 AM)
I need a confirmation from information i have here:

K50AB-SX126-w/o OS  15.6"/ATHLON X2 RM75 2.2/2G/320G/DOS/ATI 4570 512M/WC1.3

the seller said RM75 is athlon since for malaysia market the turion not available. But i have crossed check with amd website that RM 75 is Turion. I;m confuse.. pls help
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You trust the seller, or you trust the net, to be more specific, the manufacturer of the CPU itself? I believe you already knew the answer to that question
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post Feb 3 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(chugeliang @ Feb 2 2010, 11:50 PM)
erm guys may i ask a question ?
how to fix the brightness adjust problem in win 7 ?
i press Fn+F5/F6 its shows the brightness gauge increase and decrease but the brightness wont increase nor decreased at all... rclxub.gif
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Update the BIOS
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post Feb 3 2010, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(chugeliang @ Feb 3 2010, 02:42 PM)
THX !  biggrin.gif
Sadly the fan bug doesnt work any more in win7  cry.gif
about the overriding fan speed via usb power..
isit possible for the wires to attach at pin 1 and pin 4 of the usb ports ?
will i be able to use the modify-ed usb port ?  hmm.gif
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Yes its possible to do so, that is what I done on first mod I do before I put the ground someplace else. Of course you could use it, why don't you go on first page, its there

QUOTE(KnightGimli @ Feb 3 2010, 05:44 PM)
just wanna ask here
i already did the overclock on my k50ab..
so the results is gpu core 710
gpu memory 500
and gpu temperature is 81

is it okay with this clock and the temperature oso?
so the actual purpose of overclock is to boost perfomance during playing games right? then after playing games, we can revert it back to default clock setting right? sorry for the noob question
i'm new to 'overclock' smile.gif

here is my clock perfomance

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If it don't hang or crashed, it could be consider as good, but if that is your idle temperature it could be dangerous if you do gaming
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post Feb 3 2010, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(KnightGimli @ Feb 3 2010, 07:25 PM)
ermmm what does it mean by idle temperature?
is it when i just on my lappy without doing anything?
mine after playing games will increase the temperature to 85 sad.gif
wht should i do to decrease the temperature? huhu
noob question again  rclxub.gif
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Idle means idle, you do nothing for certain period of time and that is your idle temperature. That is after you playing games? Which means it could be higher during gaming, although it have thermal limit of 100C make sure yours don't reach 90C when gaming, lower is better, to lower it either you do fanmod like I did and open up the backpanel when gaming to promote airflow
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post Feb 4 2010, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(chugeliang @ Feb 4 2010, 01:28 PM)
Oic...but im curious on how u attach the wires into pins (1 and 4) ? use celotape ?
after the wires are attached, devices such as pendrive still can be inserted ? Would'nt the attached wires cause the pins surface to be uneven ?
erm im also worry about the wires because your picture shows that there are parts of the wires that lies on the orange thingy, wont it be hot then melts the wires ?
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Why do people worry too much? The wires are just put it just enough, not too deep that it obstruct any USB device been plugged in but not too loose that the wire fall off (there is a hole inside the case like shown on the USB where you could put your wires), and use cellotape close to it so it won't fall off. It won't have any problem with any USB devices, I used it with my mouse ever since I do this mod, no problem whatsoever

Those are just early shots to checking connection, I do it properly and tug it around so it won't be unseen or obstruct with any other thing like backpanel when it closed. Even if it do touch the heatpipes (the orange thingy), it won't melt, this isn't over 100C
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post Feb 9 2010, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(devil94 @ Feb 9 2010, 07:55 PM)
wonder why Asus most notebook no Bluetooth built in ~
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To save cost, its cheaper for you to buy USB Bluetooth than to make a build in one I guess. There is not much people using Bluetooth to their laptop anyway, I don't see the reason why it should come with every notebook
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post Feb 9 2010, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(devil94 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:00 PM)
getting an usb bluetooth ...... sometime easy lost it ><
wif me blutooth if useful ~ cause i transfer file or song to my phone~
lazy to use cable~ use cable the phone kenot make call or answer call ~

btw planning to get this laptop~if no drawback soon be my mew laptop  tongue.gif

any thing to talk abot this laptop ? rclxms.gif
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Don't complain to me, this is a budget gaming laptop. Check first page for reviews from some members, everything is there. To find laptop with no drawback? There is no such thing, even the most expensive one like AW M17x have drawback
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post Feb 10 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(W_A_F_D_I @ Feb 10 2010, 01:44 PM)
I want to ask to sifus here, I just bought the 2GB RAM I only see opening for the battery. In order to install additional RAM we need to open the whole cover isn't it? How about warranty? most lappy can easily access to RAM module and battery. Please advise
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xKAIZERUx have already said it, yes you need to open the whole back cover to access the RAM. I've put on first post of this thread about what kind of upgrade that doesn't void the warranty and what does
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post Feb 11 2010, 10:44 PM

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I found one config that really increase the framerate in GTA IV, here it is. I get extra 5-10fps depending on location. Framerate usually stays above 20fps at 1024x768 resolution medium detail (with shadow disabled)
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post Feb 24 2010, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(domminic @ Feb 23 2010, 11:38 PM)
how is the 4570 in k50ab compared to 5470 in A52 for gaming purposes?
Dont know whether to save the cash to buy K50ab or top up for A52.
thanks
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If you could wait you should get the new one, the graphics might be slightly faster but the CPU is the major point of buying A52, its quite a big gap in performance between Core i3 and Athlon/Turion X2. Some game might benefit from faster processor
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post Feb 24 2010, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Feb 24 2010, 10:02 AM)
5470 is 128bit/GDDR3? or 64bit/DDR2?
if the performance range is quite huge,then go for A52 (if u have extra cash  brows.gif )
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No, its just HD4570 with some added transistor for DirectX11 and a die shrink so its only slightly faster than HD4570 unless if it use GDDR5 memory. GPU-Z detect the memory bus wrong like when earlier GPU-Z detect the HD4570 having 128-bit memory bus.
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I haven't done much game too, the last game I finished is Serious Sam 2 and the old Secound Encounter. Too much typing assignments and stuff. Looks like I don't need new laptop anyway, this one will do just fine.

NaGeNaZ, I haven't used the webcam for a long time so I don't know how to fix the prob
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post Feb 27 2010, 04:28 PM

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Anyone tested the Beta ones yet? Does the PowerXpress working with it?

I haven't use PowerXpress for a long time, dGPU all the time, free up some memory smile.gif
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post Feb 27 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Feb 27 2010, 05:33 PM)
bro,i already test the cat 10.3 beta
IINM,i can use the PowerXpress option..
will post the SS later
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Its good to know that smile.gif any improvement in games performance or something?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 28 2010, 05:43 PM)
Tried OCing HD3200 to 700/500 from 500/400 and it's OCable, which the previous driver didn't allowed me.
folding GPU just to have some fun with it.

unfortunately, 4570 isn't foldable juz yet
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I managed to get HD4570 folding, but its too slow and hot. How did you overclock the HD3200?
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post Feb 28 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 28 2010, 07:16 PM)
weird, i tried console and gui, but it stated something like vga isn't supported .

OCed with amd gpu clock

Edit: ah think i got it. u were on dGPU mode rite? probably that's why 4570 folded. I'm on powerexpress, maybe it's not smart enof to dictate the vga options when folding
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Yes I been using dGPU mode. Weird, I can't get AMD GPU Clock Tool to even detect the HD3200 clock properly
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 28 2010, 11:04 PM)
i supposed ur on cat 10.3 beta? mm mine works perfectly well. switches to n fro without issue. yeah the hd3200 isn't displayed properly, but u can see the actual clock when it's ramped up on demand to 500/400. i manually set it to run @ 700/550(about the max without crashing). it will still downclock @ idle mode, but ramps up to ur desired clock speed @ load
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No, still old 9.12. Havent have time to download 10.3 beta

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