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post Oct 10 2009, 10:14 PM, updated 17y ago

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want to know how do we see shutter count arh?? i heard is:
entry-level max shutter recommended - 50,000
mid-level max shutter recommended - 100,000
high-level max shutter recommended - 200,000

is it true for all dslr?
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post Oct 10 2009, 10:25 PM

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not excately. it's more like the year the model out. and also depends on luck.

like harddisk, some people manage to use it up to 10 year with no problem, some had thiers spoil within weeks.

as for year made, newer model has better shutter design compare to previous.

indeed ur info u gotten is somewhat, estimated.
from what i have chart for machine made from2 year back are:
entry-level max shutter recommended - 30,000
mid-level max shutter recommended - 50,000
high-level max shutter recommended - 100,000

but i guess the new models from this year onwards are:
entry-level max shutter recommended - 50,000
mid-level max shutter recommended - 100,000
high-level max shutter recommended - 200,000

but there is many owner with entry level from 2 year back manage to use pass 100,000 shutters. also there is many who had thier jammed even before 30k.

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post Oct 10 2009, 10:40 PM

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thanks for nice info ieR..

well what happens after it exceeded shutter count? dslr can throw liao or can repair (how much on average?)
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post Oct 11 2009, 01:06 AM

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I think can replace... but by the time your camera hits 200k, maybe it's time you should upgrade to a new cam... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2009, 09:45 AM

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well me targeting 2nd hand entry dslr, so 15K.. another 35K to go.. about 3yrs more if nothing spoilt la..
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if u're planning on going for another 10years, then an upgrade is a must!
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post Oct 12 2009, 02:48 PM

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Are you guys saying that DSLR have limited shutter count?
After 200,000 shutter count it can't be use anymore?
Mind to explain becuase I do not think it have limit shutter count.
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post Oct 12 2009, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(imranayid @ Oct 12 2009, 02:48 PM)
Are you guys saying that DSLR have limited shutter count?
After 200,000 shutter count it can't be use anymore?
Mind to explain becuase I do not think it have limit shutter count.
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The camera shutter is a mechanical component and all mechanical part would eventually fail. Hence that the limit.
When the shutter fail, just repair or replace the shutter with a new component smile.gif
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post Oct 12 2009, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Oct 12 2009, 02:56 PM)
The camera shutter is a mechanical component and all mechanical part would eventually fail. Hence that the limit.
When the shutter fail, just repair or replace the shutter with a new component smile.gif
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It clearer now. It is just like your car, send to workshop whenever it stop working. However, it also depend on your luck, some of car can last more than 10 years without much replacing parts. It just how you took care of it. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 12 2009, 04:49 PM

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100k is long way to achive, unless you snap 200-300 pics everyday,

i think i used mine extensively but just hit a 13k shutter count for 1 year, so, no worries
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post Oct 12 2009, 06:42 PM

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is it expensive to repair the shutter?
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post Oct 12 2009, 06:58 PM

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i think if u a average user...by the time u change shutter the camera will be not in production meaning very high cost to replace..
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post Oct 13 2009, 01:50 AM

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any idea how much would it cost to replace the shutter?
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(honvee @ Oct 13 2009, 01:50 AM)
any idea how much would it cost to replace the shutter?
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it depend on the camera models,

avoid using maximum shutter speed eg: 1/4000 to prolong shutter lifetime
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post Oct 13 2009, 11:05 AM

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Don't worry too much about shutter lifetime, if your shutter's time is up, then have to fix, or get new camera. tongue.gif

Better to worry about more important things like how to prevent fungus growth, or even personal safety when taking photos.
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post Oct 13 2009, 07:40 PM

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better worry how to get nice/quality photos la... dont worry too much on shutter count
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post Oct 13 2009, 07:56 PM

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I really dont understand y so many ppl worried about shutter count. Simply hantam oni lar. By the time ur shutter wanna die it'll be years down the road oredi unless u got a lemon unit.
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post Oct 13 2009, 07:59 PM

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yeap agreed...taking beautiful photos more important than shutter count...
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QUOTE(mybiebie @ Oct 13 2009, 07:59 PM)
yeap agreed...taking beautiful photos more important than shutter count...
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not really.. lets say u went to a trip to europe with ur dslr nearing shutter count max and suddenly wham.. ur whole trip is remembered thru minds only sad.gif
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post Oct 13 2009, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(navilink @ Oct 13 2009, 08:39 PM)
not really.. lets say u went to a trip to europe with ur dslr nearing shutter count max and suddenly wham.. ur whole trip is remembered thru minds only sad.gif
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you can always bring another camera body if you are paranoid. Machineries do get broken at random times, and you won't be able to tell when it is going to disappoint you. One can come back from Europe with a perfect camera but broken lens, or a corrupted memory card, or even... an exploded battery. wink.gif
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Ya lor. Go overseas surely must bring along a nice compact mar. Some days we shud just go out n enjoy the scenery with our own eyes n that's when the compact will come in handy.
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post Oct 13 2009, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 13 2009, 08:58 PM)
you can always bring another camera body if you are paranoid. Machineries do get broken at random times, and you won't be able to tell when it is going to disappoint you. One can come back from Europe with a perfect camera but broken lens, or a corrupted memory card, or even... an exploded battery. wink.gif
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that the scariest things that i afraid to happen
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post Oct 13 2009, 09:58 PM

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wink.gif I'm more afraid if I can't come back to my own country safely
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:58 PM)
wink.gif I'm more afraid if I can't come back to my own country safely
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lol, that is if u go places like North Korea, Iraq, or Israel if u can enter laugh.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 13 2009, 09:43 PM)
that the scariest things that i afraid to happen
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happened to me when i holiday in HK
that time 1st batch D5000 got circuit problem
suddenly my DSLR jz go dead
cant do anything except to send to Nikon HK service centre
2 days without DSLR, lucky got bring compact PnS as backup

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last time I went to Phuket, the customs fella thought I was carrying weapons of mass destruction. LOL. he ask me to take out all camera equipment n lenses to try n see whether real cam or fake packed with explosives. lol
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 13 2009, 10:19 PM)
last time I went to Phuket, the customs fella thought I was carrying weapons of mass destruction. LOL. he ask me to take out all camera equipment n lenses to try n see whether real cam or fake packed with explosives. lol
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wow..look like u have most scariest experience biggrin.gif
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asking the point on shutter count is because many ppl are going to get 2nd hand dslr at first, so i was wondering which shutter count i consider acceptable.
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It really depends... of course the lesser the better if you are going to purchase a 2nd hand since you already know the threshold of each level... provided that you are not unlucky where you buy the 2nd hand then DOA.

Again, dun worry too much about shutter count... If koyak, just replace... every mechanical things are made to wear and tear anyway...
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DSLR shutter count is almost like timing belt in car's engine biggrin.gif But as for timing belt, never use it over the maximum limit.
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post Nov 20 2009, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lan76 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:59 PM)
DSLR shutter count is almost like timing belt in car's engine But as for timing belt, never use it over the maximum limit.
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There are some people that use their DSLR's shutter count above the shutter count limit.
However, they've reported that the shutter still functions without problem.
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post Nov 20 2009, 05:27 PM

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Just ignore the shutter count already...

and make sure you change the car's timing belt at regular intervals biggrin.gif
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post Nov 20 2009, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(chucky @ Nov 20 2009, 05:27 PM)
Just ignore the shutter count already...
and make sure you change the car's timing belt at regular intervals
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You can't ignore the shutter count when you purchase a 2nd-hand DSLR.
It's actually a factor when you're purchasing a 2nd-hand DSLR.
The reason I'm saying this is because, generally all DSLRs have a shutter count limit.
If you're purchasing a DSLR that's nearing it's shutter count limit, that may be a deterrent factor.
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like buying car la....check mileage...
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how to check shutter count for it then?
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Nov 20 2009, 08:04 PM)
how to check shutter count for it then?
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I'm a Mac user so I'll show how to check your Canon DSLR's shutter count for Mac.
Open the picture in "Preview" -> Go to "Tools" -> "Show Inspector".

If you're using a PC (Windows) and would like to check your DSLR's shutter count for some Canon/Nikon models, please search for Opanda.
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Older Canons don't put the shutter count data into the photo, how to check? tongue.gif

OK, checking the shutter count when buying 2nd hand camera can be one of the things you can do, but if you are not buying or selling, do you keep checking the shutter count every time to see if it nears the estimated life?

Do you shoot less photos when it nears the estimated life span in order to prolong the life?

Do you send your camera in to change the shutter when it is past the estimated lifespan of the shutter?

Do you limit your shooting so that you can have a low shutter count so that you can sell your camera later in order to command a higher price?

So just take those pictures without worrying about the shutter count already...

The shutter will fail sooner or later depending on your luck. biggrin.gif
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i dont know why u guys keep on saying it as a limit. there's NO such thing as a shutter count limit. the rated "so called limit" is just the shutter life expectancy. Nobody knows when and how it'll spoil. It's just the estimated and averaged data they got from their tests. You can use well over the "limit" or it can die earlier than that. Nobody will ever know when things will spoil. Notice why the big guys always bring a backup body when they go for a shoot?

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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Nov 20 2009, 09:16 PM)
i dont know why u guys keep on saying it as a limit. there's NO such thing as a shutter count limit. the rated "so called limit" is just the shutter life expectancy. Nobody knows when and how it'll spoil. It's just the estimated and averaged data they got from their tests. You can use well over the "limit" or it can die earlier than that. Nobody will ever know when things will spoil. Notice why the big guys always bring a backup body when they go for a shoot?
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Sorry for the grammatical error.
When I mentioned "limit", I actually meant the "life expectancy". biggrin.gif


Added on November 20, 2009, 9:26 pmLike I said, there's people that have reported to utilized their DSLR way pass their shutter count's life expectancy.

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QUOTE(navilink @ Oct 13 2009, 08:39 PM)
not really.. lets say u went to a trip to europe with ur dslr nearing shutter count max and suddenly wham.. ur whole trip is remembered thru minds only sad.gif
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dats what we called bad luck. for example ur shutter jammed at 15K, still same rite even it far from the normal life cycle... smile.gif
i ask for my nikon at PJ center, they said its around RM500. they mention dat there is one cases they saw that 200K shutter count also still no need to change...
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 13 2009, 10:03 PM)
lol, that is if u go places like North Korea, Iraq, or Israel if u can enter
happened to me when i holiday in HK
that time 1st batch D5000 got circuit problem
suddenly my DSLR jz go dead
cant do anything except to send to Nikon HK service centre
2 days without DSLR, lucky got bring compact PnS as backup
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Just to clarify with you.
Does Nikon HK honor your warranty or do you have to pay?
The reason I ask this is because, the Canon's we buy in Malaysia can only get the warranty honored in Malaysia. doh.gif
I want "International Warranty"! vmad.gif
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post Nov 22 2009, 03:57 PM

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i freidn tried to fix the shutter problem which cost him rm250 only.
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post Nov 22 2009, 04:07 PM

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which EOS body? I believe it cost to change the shutter on xD bodies
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post Nov 23 2009, 01:10 AM

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@kiang1fong:
If not mistaken, even the D60's shutter replacement costs about RM600.
How'd you replace a DSLRs shutter for RM250?
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Nov 23 2009, 01:10 AM)
@kiang1fong:
If not mistaken, even the D60's shutter replacement costs about RM600.
How'd you replace a DSLRs shutter for RM250?
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dat one D90 price bro... jz ask nikon SC recently
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@Isepunye:
Oh I see.
So, if the D90's shutter replacement costs RM600.
What DSLR can replace it's shutter for RM250?
Nikon D40x?
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i dnt know coz i ask at SC PJ, they say around RM500 - RM600 for D90/D80
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Nov 23 2009, 09:30 AM)
i dnt know coz i ask at SC PJ, they say around RM500 - RM600 for D90/D80
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wah, that is crazy rclxub.gif

near half a price of 2nd hand body doh.gif
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@marsupilami:
It costs nearly half the price of a 2nd-hand body, true.
However, the shutter unit is brand new. I doubt you can compare a new shutter unit and a used shutter unit from a 2nd-hand body. tongue.gif

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D90 can reach how many SC? Thanks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Light Matter @ Nov 23 2009, 08:26 PM)
D90 can reach how many SC? Thanks. smile.gif
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100K
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new shutter can rock n roll again like new hahaha

100K jz app only...
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Nov 23 2009, 09:47 PM)
new shutter can rock n roll again like new hahaha

100K jz app only...
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not yet... jz asking when cleaning my sensor
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Nov 23 2009, 10:06 AM)
wah, that is crazy  rclxub.gif

near half a price of 2nd hand body doh.gif
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well if the new replacement can lasts another 100k.. then it's quite a good investment also..
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@navilink:
It's not a definite that it'll last 100k.
Some people have lasted longer than the shutter life expectancy while other have lasted to HALF of the shutter life expectancy.
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Hey my d40 got a little prob... dunno is shutter problem or not. It happens very rare but sometimes will happen. When i shoot a lot of photos continuously then after awhile after autofocus already, i press the shutter button but it didn't capture anything. Then after a few seconds i try again it become normal. But it will reoccur later.

Is it shutter problem? My SC is only 10k. age of my D40 is 1 year and 2 months. It rarely happens but I'm afraid it will reoccur next time.
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@zellleonhart:
Recommended method is send to Nikon SC.
Another reason of this occurrence may be, because the memory card's buffer is full hence, it'll take a while for the next picture to be written to the card...
May I recommend that you try another SD card?
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Nov 24 2009, 02:21 AM)
@navilink:
It's not a definite that it'll last 100k.
Some people have lasted longer than the shutter life expectancy while other have lasted to HALF of the shutter life expectancy.
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well that will depend on ur luck already icon_rolleyes.gif but most probably i think majority of the ppl reached more than the expected shutter life? any idea?
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@navilink:
Most of my friends have exceeded the shutter life expectancy.
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@TechnoDude94
Oh ok, thanks
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@zellleonhart:
No problem mate, glad to help.
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my friend using canon 1000d, anyway, he has a friend who work with camera company, that help him to change one
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Nov 24 2009, 07:41 PM)
Hey my d40 got a little prob... dunno is shutter problem or not. It happens very rare but sometimes will happen. When i shoot a lot of photos continuously then after awhile after autofocus already, i press the shutter button but it didn't capture anything. Then after a few seconds i try again it become normal. But it will reoccur later.

Is it shutter problem? My SC is only 10k. age of my D40 is 1 year and 2 months. It rarely happens but I'm afraid it will reoccur next time.
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Oh.. I had the same problem like you on my d40 before... I also don't know why that occurs.. but that time was probably my lens and body contact wasn't good... put to single shot mode, and everything should be fine.
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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Nov 25 2009, 09:50 PM)
Oh.. I had the same problem like you on my d40 before... I also don't know why that occurs.. but that time was probably my lens and body contact wasn't good... put to single shot mode, and everything should be fine.
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i am using single shot mode... Not burst mode/continuous mode. Maybe my lens contact not good already, becuz sometimes when i take my d40 out of the bag it can't AF at all, need to remount the lens. Haiz... Plastic mount sucks man..
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aite...how to check S.C for 2nd hand DSLR???
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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Oct 13 2009, 10:27 AM)
it depend on the camera models,

avoid using maximum shutter speed eg: 1/4000 to prolong shutter lifetime
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This came from my D200 body..
300k++ and still counting.. So no worries. Just keep shooting and ignore those shutter count until when u need to replace it (when the time comes).. usually the owner of the camera will "break" 1st before the body (u wud sell the body 1st before knowing that it can serve u well over years to come..) biggrin.gif

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post Jan 3 2011, 02:21 PM

I was like LOL :D
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QUOTE(kord @ Jan 3 2011, 09:44 AM)
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This came from my D200 body..
300k++ and still counting.. So no worries. Just keep shooting and ignore those shutter count until when u need to replace it (when the time comes).. usually the owner of the camera will "break" 1st before the body (u wud sell the body 1st before knowing that it can serve u well over years to come..)  biggrin.gif
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very true!
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post Jan 13 2011, 03:21 AM

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yet ppl buying at garage sales still so annoying asking for sc. hehe
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post Jan 13 2011, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Jan 13 2011, 03:21 AM)
yet ppl buying at garage sales still so annoying asking for sc. hehe
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cos the lower the shutter count means lesser use. surely it's second hand, but if all the second hand falls in the same price range, generally ppl will look for the newest unit.

some of my friend's camera, especially lower end like Nikon D40, shutter break down at 20k... so it's very hard to say.
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wahhh 2009 topic revived... hahaha.

today's camera is rated 100k min even for entry.

but even if ur unit pass 1million shutter and breakdown within warranty period, they will still change for u for free, as there state no shutter count warranty in the warranty term and condition.

if yours really breakdown right after the warranty period (or u brought 2nd hand) its fairly cheap (under rm400) for the 1/4000 shutter unit, and around rm600 for 1/8000 APS-C Shutter unit and around rm800 for FF shutter unit. additional service charges may apply because when u send ur unit in, the service center usually CHECK the whole body rather then just change the shutter.

But do take note, because most new sensor design with native iso200, hence shutter used in daylight usually 1 stop higher. the Mirror plastic braket will BREAK even before u reach 100k shutter. and its cheap to replace it too.

my A300 shutter now is 2 years, 70k and counting
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:26 PM

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Hi I got something to ask, Canon 1000D is it ok for starting ?
I am newbie only.
Rm1399 for the model.
Need some opinion advice and comment pls.
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:28 PM

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No nid worry lab about shutter count..if spoil then go fix..no nid worry biggrin.gif
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:28 PM

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can i know how much the shutter count for the canon eos 1000D ??
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 17 2011, 07:26 PM)
Hi I got something to ask, Canon 1000D is it ok for starting ?
I am newbie only.
Rm1399 for the model.
Need some opinion advice and comment pls.
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Stop spamming the area and ask at the appropriate thread at the pinned section. Or ask at the have a simple question thread >_>
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:30 PM

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can I have the link you said " simple question "
sry i m new here.

tq


Added on February 17, 2011, 7:33 pmafter the shutter spoil, hw much if wan to fix ?

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post Feb 18 2011, 03:17 AM

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depends on cam.. when ur cam seem to lag or hangs then time to replace your shutter la..

 

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