Hey guys, I really lovre MS and I'm currently looking for one to keep as my pet. I have a long hair dashund which belongs to my mother. I used to own another short hair dashund before this but it was lost while we were away for a holiday (the boarding place lost her ). Its been 2 years now and I'm ready to have another dog.

I've been to some home breeders and some pet shops to lookout for 1. I saw 1 @ Ikano several months back which i fell in love with but wasn't ready to have 1 then as my house was still under renovation. My house is ready now and I hope u guys who knows a good breeder or seen MS being sold @ pet shops to inform me.

I'd love to have a male, salt & pepper / black & silver colour MS. On the ears, I'm still favouring the uncropped ones as I think its quite cruel (my personal opinion). However, if its already done and I happen to love the dog, I wun mind as well. Hope u guys/gals can help me.

Thx!

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Hi there! Thx a lot for your reply and your help to lookout for the MS. On my beloved dashund, Sammi, I still miss her very VERY much. Secretly in me, I still wish she'd come back home 1 day or at the very least, she's well taken care by a new family who loves her.

Back to MS, I have no idea who are the reputable breeders around klang valley. Been to a few "home" ones but didn't pick any cause they dun have a suitable one for me (I was looking for a male and they only had female). Also, connection with the dog is also very important when picking a new dog for me. Saw another MS @ Ikano the other day but somehow, just didn't have the "connection" with him.

Anyway, I hope you guys can direct me to a site or url or place where I can know who, around Klang Valley are the reputable breeders. Even all the pet shops claim to be breeders these days. One question, the one at Ikano, are they sellers only or breeders as well?

Cheers! Looking forward to getting my MS soon and joining u guys for gatherings (of course after he is fully vac.)

P/S: Btw, during your gatherings, do u guys accept other dogs as well as I dun like leaving my furry dashund (Jack jack) at home while bringing my MS out. My gf also have a toy poodle too.

Thx bebe_jenny28,

Will surely go have a look soon. Hopefully he/she is still there. I dun reallly mind if the ears are already cropped. Just dun want to purposely do it if its not done.

Really looking forward till I get my lil MS home. Even got a name ready for him

jason86,

I never mentioned about having a MS for free. Maybe U've mistaken me for another member here. I've been on a lookout at many pet shops and I have no problems with a budget for my new puppy when I bring 1 home. So far, the price range for a MS puppy is approx RM 1400 - 1800.

On the one being put up for adoption, yes, I do prefer to have a new pup to have a new start to everything but I will have a look nevertheless. Who knows if the MS is fated to be with me?

Cheers all!

Hey guys, I'm still searching for a MS (Black & Silver) but it seems most of the breeders are dun have them n most pet shops are also out of stock. So popular la this breed.

Anyway, I might put my plans on hold for now as an unfortunate accident happened last night to my other dog (a furry dashund). He ran outside of my house n got hit by a car. a neighbour carried him home to us. I was so shocked to see Jack jack just lying motionless on my neighbour's arms..

Immediately sent him to the nearest vet that is still open. I was so scared that my Jack jack will die but the vet says that his immediate life doesn't seem to be in danger. Jack jack is still under observation & x-ray and the most worrying thing is if his internal organs suffer a rupture of severe damage. His pelvis bones are also fractured.

I've been unable to work or concentrate on anything the whole day but the latest news is the vets are putting Jack jack on x-ray now to determine the injuries.

I feel so upset and angry at myself for not being observant enough to know my dog ran out of my house. Jack is a super smart and active dog. My only hope is he survives this accident and be a normal healthy dog. The vet says if he is ok (no internal injuries), and just have fractures..he shud be ok..I',m still waiting for this good news. But the vet say he may not be 100% anymore..the best bet is 70% of his physical condition.

Thats y i might put my purchase of MS on hold as I might need to take good care of Jack jack while he recovers..Anyone has got any advise on what should or shouldn't do to a dog that just met with an accident?

Thx a lot for your advise..

My beloved Jack jack passed away yesterday. I'm still trying hard to cope with the situation.

I guess I will not have another dog for now as I can't get over the fact. I hate going home now cause I miss him so much.

To everyone..pls take good care of your dog and don't ever let it wonder around outside your house without u around..this was a mistake i made..and a fatal one.

Hey guys..after getting over my heartache of my jack jack's departure..I've finally bought a MS. Actually, I was planning to get a MS long before to be jack jack's companion but the plan was put on hold.

I have been looking everywhere from home breeders to almost every single pet shop around Subang-PJ areas. MS are indeed a very popular breed. Most of the time when a breeder/petshop contacts me on the availability of a MS, they'd be all sold by the time I go and view them.

So, finally I've got a call from Petsmore (I think, I can't remember the shop name) in Empire shopping Gallery and I totally fell in love with this MS. She has very dark grey and white coat, MKA certified and microchipped. She is currently 3 months old and looked really healthy and active.

I've named her Poppy (not that I'm a druggie but thought its a cute name ;p) and she's home with me since Saturday. She is such a people friendly dog and can stick to anyone! She has also adapted very well and makes minimal noises (which I was a lil worried prior to getting a MS as I was told they tend to bark quite a bit). Best of all, the moment you carry her to your lap, she'll sit quietly and just stay there till she falls asleep. Such a wonderful companion.

I still have much work to do now and probably the No 1 priority is to get the vac in order as she has only taken the 1st vac to date and the 2nd one due now. Another top priority is toilet traning her. According to the petshop, I'm asked to feed her 3 times a day, with each time only 2 table spoon of dog biscuits. Poppy is so soft and gentle but when she sees food, she'll turn into a monster and gobbles up everything within seconds. I've resorted to feeding her piece by piece to help calm her down. For a 3 months of MS, is that too little or too much food? Poppy never seem to have enough but I suspect she's probably greedy.

One last questions to all u guys here: Can Poppy be seen mixing with other adult dogs (only 1st Vacc done). My gf has a toy poddle (Russel) and sometimes she brings Russel to my house.

This is just some of the pics I've managed to take

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Added on May 24, 2010, 11:03 amOh btw, Poppy's ears are not cropped. I've decided to not do anything to her as I can't bear to see her in pain. She's gonna be my pet afterall and not a show dog.

Another thing is she has a little tail (approx. 1 inch long)..are MS supposed to have tails or they're docked during very young years? Either way, I dun mind her with a tail too as the same reason above applies.

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You have a beautiful puppy as well

As for Poppy, her birthday is in February so I guess they're not exactly sibblings? But I'm sure they'll be great friends if we met. Poppy's tail is not exactly long but its there so I'm not really sure if its docked or not.

I'll get Poppy to the vet today after work for her vaccination and will keep my fingers crossed that she's a perfectly healthy dog. Can't wait for her 3rd Vaccinaton so that she can start haning out with all the other MS gatherings here.

My almost 4 month old MS, Poppy have been home with me for a week plus now. I just want to ask, how long does it take usually to toilet train a puppy?

I've done all the methods stated here (read from 1st page) but she still refuse to do it on the pee pad. She will just walk freely and do it wherever. The problem with Poppy is, everytime I try to catch the "timing", she will stop doing her business or pee. For and example, if she starts to turn and take her dump, I'll quickly carry her up to her pee pad but she'll then stop doing her business. When she pee, its the same.

Its very tiring to be watching her 24 hours because I only keep her indoors and dun want my house to be filled with pee / shit without my knowledge.

Another thing is, she doesn't like to be fenced (I've made a fence so that i dun have to lock her up in the cage) when I'm out for work. Any ways to make them better while we're at work? I was thinking of getting a small music player and play soft music while Im away.

Poppy is almost due for her 3rd vaccine already. Can't wait to bring her out to the park to play and meet other dogs etc. Let me know if there's a gathering coming up.

Thx for all the advise. Really appreciate it very much.

As for now, I've stopped letting Popp roam free in the house all the time. I've made the fencing a little bigger and confime her to that space most of the day.

Been doing a similar routine to red-queen for 2 days now and it seems to be working a little bit. I wake up early in the morning to feed her food. After her meal, I'll sit with Poppy in the fence and wait for her to poo. When sh'e about to do it, I'll direct her to the pee pad and block her way if she wants to walk out of it. Eventually, she'll do it there and I'll praise her non stop.

I'll repeat the same process again and again to see the outcome. Hope she learns faster not because I'm tired of looking after her but I want her to roam freely in the house and not only confined to the fencing area.

Just some update on my Poppy (I posted about 2 weeks back on her potty training).

After learning that giving her a large space to roam around wun help in the potty traning at all, I have made a crate / fencing area around my room where her cage and bed is also inside. Outside of her cage, there will be a peepad with newspaper on it. When I wake up in the morning, I will feed her and wait for her to do her stuff (meaning I will sit inside the fence and wait with her). When that happens, she will certainly do it at the right place because any indication of her starting to pee/shit, I will direct her to the peepad.

However, my only problem is..I work full time. During the day, she will be caged (because she will absolutely destroy the peepad and the newspapers) and she pee/shit inside the cage (not on the bed but next to her bed). That means, I only can train her twice a day; once in the morning before I go to work...and once at night when I'm home from work.

When she is downstairs with the family, she will totally forget about the peepad and will do it anywhere she likes. I've tried being very stern and scold her very loudly and even once whacked her (very softly of course) and I think she is now scared to do it downstairs even with her peepad on.

I know its only 1 month since I brought Poppy home but I think untill now she's still confused about where to do it. What am I doing wrong here? I've tried putting her in the fencing area without locking her and she ended up peeing outside the peepad and biting the entire newspaper in it around. I dun mind cleaning up when I am around but when I'm working, it'll mean that the pee and shit will be there for hours and she'll end up walking and stepping on it.

Its been a very frustrating month for me but I still love her very very much. I just need to know if I'm doing it right or if there's anything I can improve. My next step is to get rid of the newspapers in the peepad and use those pampers like (but very costly) and hope Poppy doesn't bite those. If that works, I wun cage her anymore.

Is there a dog trainer I can attend the classes on house-training the dogs? Been searching the internet and other forums and I've been doing most of the things ppl say such as:

1) Crate her and wait for the signs of doing her pee/poo and carry her to peepad.

2) Avoid large roaming areas.

3) Praise non-stop when she does it at the right place

4) Be firm when she does it at the wrong place

Need some advise from all fellow MS owners here who all have gone through this period of time. Thx all for your advises.

Hi furrybutts,

Thx so much for your inputs. From what you've written here, your MS is quite similar to mine now. I guess we'll just have to be extra patient when it comes to potty training.

For now, Poppy's been doing it correctly again. She seems to be on a cycle when she does it right for 2 days then seem to totally forget about it for another 2 days before doing it right again.

I've stopped scolding her totally even when she does it wrongly because I don't want her to develop the fear of doing it in front of me and its worst when she hides in a corner to do it without my knowledge.

As for giving her treats..I've started doing that right now. She's a very very greedy dog and never seem to have enough food so treats will be good way to learn I guess.

Poppy's such a smart girl cause in less than 1 week, she's learned to sit, stay and give hand. Just I dunno why she's taking slightly longer to learn to potty train.

One last question..she's almost due for her final vacination. Her fur is getting very long and I have no idea how to cut for her. Is it safe to bring her to the groomers before her 3rd vac? I spoke to HOG and they said all the dogs dun mix around while in grooming so Poppy should be ok. Her Vacination is only due end of next week and after the vac shot, she cannot shower for 10 days. I only worry her fur will be so long and it might be uncomfortable for her. Kindly advise as I've so far only kept her in the house and the only other dog Poppy have in contact with is a healthy fully vacinated adult min. poodle.

Cheers!

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Added on June 16, 2010, 4:26 pmShe does have her toys given to her but she still ends up playing her pee pan sometimes. She stopped doing it for 2 days already so hopefully she has kicked out that habit.

I've seen the pee-pan (wizdog) and it looks great. Wonder if its available in M'sia?

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Wow....sherry is such a cutie!

Well, I guess I'll just tahan a little longer and maybe just trim Poppy's fur a little. I do comb her hair on a almost daily basis cause her hair gets tangled up quite often.

Poppy's 3rd vacination is due next week. Can't wait to bring her out to venture and also to socialise with other dogs. I heard it is important to have our puppies to socialise since young or they will not like to make friends with other dogs and will bark at all strangers.

Based on Sherry and Poppy's behaviour..maybe they'll be best friends in the future. My Poppy's a girl..is yours a female too? They'll be BFF's

One question for all MS sifu's here (sorry, i always seem to have questions)..I intend to spay Poppy once she turns 6 months old. Is it better to do it before her 1st period or after he 1st period? What is expected after the procedure (if she needs any extra special care) because i'll have to take leave to take care of her if needed.

Anyone with a good experience or recommendation on vet to go for this procedure? I've sent Poppy to Mayo (or sumthing like that) in USJ Taipan and I intend to let Poppy have the op done by this vet if its ok. Anyone got a bad / good experience with this vet..kindly share.

Is there a MS gathering anytime soon? My Poppy will be ready to venture out in 3 weeks time! Woo hoo

Hey furrybutts,

Which obedience training school you're sending Sherry to? I'm looking at a few places listed here (in the earlier pages) and is considering to send Poppy there too. Kindly advise the cost and schedule

Hey rayne,

Thx a lot for your advise. I still have 2 months to think about it before Poppy turns 6 months old. My vet is telling me she's ready to spay once she hits 6 months old.

Btw, what are we expected to do once our furkids is done with the operation? Anything that we should be aware of such as showering..feeding certain food etc etc? How long does it take (approx) to heal?

Latest update: Poppy's potty training is running smoothly for the past few days. I'm so happy everytime she does it right. Its almost 80% success rate now. Thx to all MS owners here for your advises. I guess u guys were right..with the right technique and patience..she'll do it right.

Hey furrybutts,

Thx for the info. I'll check it out soon. Might enrol once Poppy's fully vacinated.

Hey rayne,

Will surely consult the vet next week when I bring Poppy in for a visit. Thx a lot for your advises too!

I've managed to learn much from u guys/gals here. U guys rock! Hope the MS gathering will be around soon so I can finally meet u guys and see ur beautiful furkids!

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Added on June 18, 2010, 3:25 pmDun worry furrybutts, Poppy is not 100% right still. She still bites her pee pan out (the pampers) sometimes and creates a mess out of it. I hope they'll grow out of it soon. At least we're seeing progress in their growth

Checking out the classes u mentioned. Looks good. Might check it out (if they allow) this sunday @ taman desa.

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Hey furrybutts,

I'll try to make it but most probably wun bring Poppy as she's still not done with her final vacination. Even if I bring her, she'll have to stay in the car

I'll speak the vet and get more info next week. Poppy's a really active pup and I'm worried if she can stay still and not hurt her wound.

It was nice meeting furrybutts and her cute MS Sherry on Sunday on Sherry's first day out. Hope she had fun.

HOG quoted me approximately RM 50-60 for grooming but they say final charges are based on the dog's size. I have yet to send Poppy there but intend to try it once maybe next week. They used to groom my long haired dashund (sigh) and I was happy with the results.

Hey eric, I'm looking forward to a MS gathering also. Hope to see u guys around!

Hey girley,

I don't have 1 spare one now but do look out for some of the pet shops as they sometimes have stock clearance with huge discounts.

Michi is such a cute MS.

As for my Poppy, I think I've seen 1 of her baby tooth falling before and it was so tiny. It didn't seem to bother her at all.

Hey GenkiGal,

Thx for your detailed explanation. Really appreciate it

Its good to know that your pup recovered well and quick. I hope my poppy recovers well too. She's only due for the op by August I think. This weekend is her 3rd and final vacination time. I'm so happy as I can finally bring her out from the house after that.

Will keep in mind this post when Poppy have done her op. Thx again!

Love this forum very much. All the members here are informative and kind enough to share! Can't wait to meet u guys/gals in real life too.

Cheers.