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TSkotmj
post Oct 12 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(djduzker @ Oct 12 2010, 02:02 PM)
Today

I already order 2 pairs from Barker & Loake...For my wedding

Barker Westfield - RM 1065

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Loake Savoy - RM 899

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Will be post a real picture after arrive...
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Huh? I had always thought you would wear some limited edition FP to your wedding...
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post Oct 12 2010, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Oct 12 2010, 10:14 PM)
Huh? I had always thought you would wear some limited edition FP to your wedding...
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The sales person responsible for the Bally Scribe Made to Order Service amazes me.
1. He didn't know the difference between an Oxford, Derby & Whole Cut
2. He was trying to fit me in one of the standard Scribes lace ups for the double monks I was going to order under the program.

I promptly excused myself & picked up a pair of Pino Giardino Oxfords in Dark Oak .
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post Oct 13 2010, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Oct 12 2010, 10:14 PM)
Huh? I had always thought you would wear some limited edition FP to your wedding...
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yeah..i will wear FP X Raf Simons White Shirt and Ben Sen Sherman Dark Brown Trouser on my wedding..
i bought the brown waxy one's for cedar..really hard to find barker in malaysia..so i just bought in online...

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post Oct 13 2010, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(djduzker @ Oct 13 2010, 07:34 AM)
yeah..i will wear FP X Raf Simons White Shirt and Ben Sen Sherman Dark Brown Trouser on my wedding..
i bought the brown waxy one's for cedar..really hard to find barker in malaysia..so i just bought in online...
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Which website did you buy from?
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post Oct 13 2010, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(beau @ Oct 12 2010, 11:46 PM)
The sales person responsible for the Bally Scribe Made to Order Service amazes me.
1. He didn't know the difference between an Oxford, Derby & Whole Cut
2. He was trying to fit me in one of the standard Scribes lace ups for the double monks I was going to order under the program.

I promptly excused myself & picked up a pair of Pino Giardino Oxfords in Dark Oak .
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That's the reason why he's the salesperson and not the customer.
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Oct 13 2010, 08:52 PM)
That's the reason why he's the salesperson and not the customer.
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What's amazing is he expects a customer to buy without trying the shoes!! Here's a new one:- " All our shoes are made from the same shape lasts"
It's no surprise why those who can afford to still shop abroad. It's frustrating dealing with sales persons who lack product knowledge.
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post Oct 15 2010, 10:11 AM

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i happened to pass by the cobbler at the curve yesterday and picked up a few things:

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saphir (50ml) = rm29.90 (plal's price is better)
coxy (250ml) = rm39.90

there was a waterproof spray for leather and suede by avel (the mother company of saphir) but selling at rm89.90 for a 400ml bottle.

I was told by the chubby lady there the saphir medaille d'or cream (as shown below) is only meant for glossy type leather. can some one please confirm on this?

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post Oct 15 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Oct 15 2010, 10:11 AM)
i happened to pass by the cobbler at the curve yesterday and picked up a few things:

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saphir (50ml) = rm29.90 (plal's price is better)
coxy (250ml) = rm39.90

there was a waterproof spray for leather and suede by avel (the mother company of saphir) but  selling at rm89.90 for a 400ml bottle.

I was told by the chubby lady there the saphir medaille d'or cream (as shown below) is only meant for glossy type leather. can some one please confirm on this?

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Was it that anal retentive rude arrogant woman?

She is talking absolutely rubbish ( as usual )

1. If you search around the websites, the Medaille D'or cream can be used for normal care & polish. This cream is good to help keep your leather supple but does not impart an intense shine unlike the Saphir wax that comes in a can.
2. When you use this cream , first clean your shoe with a lightly moist cloth to remove any surface dirt
3. Apply the cream lightly
4. Leave for 15 to 20 minutes to dry
5. Wipe off with soft cloth

These are also available at Plal ( when I last check a month ago ) but in smaller size .

I've also ordered from the website ( not sure if I passed the details to you ) -excellent service & very quick response ( 1 week after placing order ). My advice is to accumulate your purchase or make a group purchase with friends as they offer better discounts for bulk purchase and the postage is proportionally less
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post Oct 15 2010, 11:18 AM

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yeah she is the one that you referred to but she made an effort of taking out the shoe care products from the glass cabinet. well, i think there is an improvement there.

btw, i just sent you a pm smile.gif

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post Oct 15 2010, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Oct 15 2010, 11:18 AM)
yeah she is the one that you referred to but she made an effort of taking out the shoe care products from the glass cabinet. well, i think there is an improvement there.

btw, i just sent you a pm smile.gif
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Responded. If you are down in Singapore the Cobbler on the 4th level of ION Orchard has an extensive range of Collinil Products , whilst the one in the basement of OUB in Raffles Place stocks Cuir Essentialle'

Otherwise Singapore is a wasteland where shoe care products are concerned as compared to KL.

BTW Berluti recommends Burgundy & Neutral wax for their black shoes for a more intense shine

1. Use the Neutral Wax to clean & prepare the leather after removing surface dirt.
2. After polishing off the wax , apply the burgundy wax with a damp cloth-Apply lightly & polish until the polish streak marks are no longer visible
3. Repeat with burgundy wax until an intense shine builds up
4. Focus on polishing sections ( toe cap, quarters , heel ) at any one time until an intense shine builds up.

There are pros & cons to this. Apart from the obvious aesthetic value, it also helps to keep the leather water proof. However, prolong polishing in this manner also affects the longevity of the leather so you may want to purchase a Saphir Renomat to remove the polish build up every so often & apply some delicates or cuir essentialle' to moisturize the leather & keep it supple



It takes about 1 hour for a new pair of shoes so make yourself comfortable in front of a TV. Once the shine is achieved, it will take approximately 10 to 15 minutes just to maintain the shine .

There's a good video on JM Weston's website that shows how this is done if you are interested
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post Oct 15 2010, 03:08 PM

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burgundy and neutral waxes? hmmm, there goes my petty salary.

i can recall kotmj mentioned before that blue wax can give intense character to shoes as well.
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post Oct 15 2010, 10:27 PM

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Blue is for brown shoes.
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post Oct 15 2010, 11:25 PM

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^thanks, kotmj. i guess i will need to add another saphir into my wish list.
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post Oct 16 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Oct 15 2010, 11:25 PM)
^thanks, kotmj. i guess i will need to add another saphir into my wish list.
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Great for antiquing your brown shoes & gives it a nice patina.
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post Oct 16 2010, 11:01 AM

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at what price does Salvatore Ferragammo tramezza collection starts at
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post Oct 17 2010, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Sartorialist @ Oct 16 2010, 11:01 AM)
at what price does Salvatore Ferragammo tramezza collection starts at
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I saw some in an outlet in the US selling for around USD$200 to $400 ( retail is around USD $700 to $1,000 + )

They will probably be sold at highly inflated prices here . Best wait for the post Christmas sale if you are keen.
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QUOTE(beau @ Oct 16 2010, 01:06 AM)
Great for antiquing your brown shoes & gives it a nice patina.
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point noted, thanks heaps!!
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post Oct 18 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Oct 17 2010, 07:15 PM)
point noted, thanks heaps!!
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whoopee's shoes

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post Oct 19 2010, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Oct 19 2010, 01:08 AM)
whoopee's shoes

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whoaa... awesome.... is that achieved using Saphir wax?

I'm looking at shoe wax and cream brands for my CJ Hallams before I start wearing them... thought I should nourish the leather first since I read somewhere the shoes have probably been sitting and drying out for god knows how long in the warehouse....

BTW anyone knows if PLAL still stocks CJs and Loake 1880s? I'm thinking of paying them a visit next time I swing by... much better to try em out in person.... I took a bit of a risk to order mine in the wider F-fit as my feet do run quite wide and they fit very nicely... but I don;t think I would be that lucky next time I order online.

cheers peeps
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post Oct 19 2010, 09:18 PM

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The guy's a fan of saphir. It was from him I learned to use navy polish on brown shoes.

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