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post Jul 15 2010, 10:15 AM

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The trick is to apply dark polish only after a significant buildup of same-colour polish. Without the buildup, the leather is thirsty and polish will soak into the leather, making the leather appear splotchy and unevenly-coloured. But with dark polish applied as the last few coats of water polishing, there is no danger of this because it sits on top of the lighter polish and is easily removed. (However, scuffs will remove the patina).
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post Jul 15 2010, 10:06 PM

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No. Sounds scurrilous.
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 16 2010, 02:20 PM)
By the way, slightly offtopic. I noticed the soles of my shoes are worn off due to driving. I drive only manual cars and both shoes have uneven wear pattern due to scraping against the floor mat. Anyone else have this problem? And how do you guys avoid it?
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Wear better shoes.
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post Jul 16 2010, 04:14 PM

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As I've said: Wear better shoes.

The Continental Corso half-sole I put on my Bally Scribe No. 1 two years ago and worn brutally has only minor wear. I had the same put on my Loake 1880.

The original leather soles are also impervious to abrasion by mere plastic. It is asphalt that kills them.
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post Jul 16 2010, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(beau @ Jul 16 2010, 06:36 PM)
Have you considered sending the Scribes back to the factory for re furbishment & overhaul?  A friend of mine did that & the shoes returned looking new . The costs of the refurbishment was not cheap ( approx. 40% of the cost of the shoes ) but he's had the shoes for close to 10 years now.

Not a big fan of Scribes as I think they are very expensive to purchase but only so so in terms of quality
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I bought the Scribes on eBay for some 15 Euros (described merely as old Balys) when I was a starving student in Europe. Now I'm a starving employee in Malaysia. The factory will never see this pair.
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post Jul 19 2010, 12:32 PM

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The Church's have arrived, they are still in their box beneath my desk. Will open and put them on during the lunch hour.
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post Jul 19 2010, 12:53 PM

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The USD210 price includes postage. The actual postage cost was SGD38.15.

Can't wait to open the box. Going off for lunch now.


Added on July 19, 2010, 2:09 pmShoes are great. Leather is soft unlike the Loakes which are stiff. I like the 730 last, very masculine.

The "aftermarket" rubber heels were simply stuck on the original, which makes the shoe unbalanced. I may have them removed.


Added on July 19, 2010, 5:13 pmHow I wish new shoes come pre-broken in. I'm into 4 hours of wearing this new pair, and they are as comfortable as an old pair. If they were new, my feet would be aching in 2-3 points by now.

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post Jul 19 2010, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(bloke1 @ Jul 19 2010, 07:24 PM)
f*** you, kakmj!
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fusionsex and i have come to the conclusion that the guy in my avatar isn't you. the online personas are too different.

come on, stop pulling our leg. it isn't you.
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post Jul 19 2010, 08:20 PM

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Is that REALLY you? I mean the guy watches Ultimate Power Group (whatever that is) and likes Jet Li?

Jet Li?!
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post Jul 19 2010, 09:41 PM

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I would never have guessed it man. You really managed to keep two personas going on at the same time. Half of the stuff on your FB are in squiggly characters man, so lala.

I liked the earlier pic of you in the black suit, without glasses, and doing this V with your fingers across your eyes. Absolutely nothing you post on the fashion forums have anything in common with your FB, man, how do you do it.

Fusionsex you have met your match.
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post Jul 19 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 19 2010, 10:23 PM)
any1 mind to post the bloke1 fb add.....
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you missed the whole party!


Added on July 19, 2010, 10:29 pm
QUOTE(silencer @ Jul 19 2010, 10:23 PM)
any1 mind to post the bloke1 fb add.....
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you missed the whole party! yesterday was the best day of the forum -- two members were EXPOSED!

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post Jul 19 2010, 10:40 PM

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Yeah, L'ababy made me remove the link. He said do it or else... I was afraid he'd commit suicide so I complied.

Eh, I've already posted pics of my Church's. Right now they are out of balance because the heel is too tall due to a stuck-on aftermarket heel. I will bring them to cobbler this week to have them removed. I tried doing it myself just now but the glue was strong, my knife expensive, and I was hungry for dinner so gonna outsource that task.


Added on July 19, 2010, 10:45 pmHot babe: Hey nice shoes. Where did you get them?

kotmj: Oh thanks. They belonged to my grandfather. He gave them to me before he ...

Hot babe: ...sorry to interrupt, I am in a hurry, but do you want to have dinner with me later?


Added on July 19, 2010, 10:52 pm
QUOTE(Cheenoo @ Jul 19 2010, 09:59 PM)
thats definitely not the real him.
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i still have trouble believing it's him.


Added on July 19, 2010, 11:04 pmTo get this poor thread back on track, let me perhaps explain why I jumped to buy this pair of shoes.

Firstly RM688 is a lot of money to pay for shoes. However, I was actually looking for one at P.Lal the other day but came away disappointed. The new Loake 1880's are made differently! In my pair from 2004, the insole is a thick piece of leather. In the new ones, not only is the leather a bit plasticky, but the insole is made of a strange white suede-like material. There was just no way I was plonking down RM800 for those.

Buying used shoes on eBay has also been frustrating. Most people do not know how to care for their shoes and most are in bad shape. Prices are also surprisingly high.

So when a SF member and shoe fanatic (you know he is when he has a Berluti) sells moderately used, well-kept shoes at below Loake 1880 prices, I jumped.


Added on July 19, 2010, 11:53 pmooohhh, i found jind's pic.

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post Jul 20 2010, 11:15 PM

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I wore my Church's the whole day today (I know, I know, 48 hours rest and all) and I love them. The 73 last is so beautiful. Elongated, angular and sleek, yet not pointy-toed like some nowadays. So glad I bought them.


Added on July 20, 2010, 11:19 pm
QUOTE(bloke1 @ Jul 20 2010, 10:01 PM)
It's all my fault. I shouldn't crop his crotch off.

Anyway I prefer David's previous profile photo. Don't like the current snooker kid look.
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Feel free to use it as your avatar. I'm curious to see his previous profile pic.

And no, I don't blame you for falling for the attractions of my crotch. You're a handsome kid yourself. So edible.

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post Jul 22 2010, 12:09 PM

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I don't expect any of you to know, but where do I find navy and oxblood shoe polish in the Klang Valley?


Added on July 22, 2010, 4:07 pm
QUOTE(beau @ Jul 22 2010, 06:42 AM)
One word of advice:- get all the nice stuff ( shirts, suits etc ) before returning to Malaysia. Not only is there a scarcity of it here but whatever is available is significantly more expensive than London. There is also an additional benefit of using it as samples to be copied once you establish a relationship with a good tailor here.
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Is London really such a cheap source of clothes? We have P.Lal here for shoes, Iris Tailor over the Causeway for suits, and good shirts can be made anywhere if you can source your own fabrics. I'm curious to know what is significantly more expensive here than in London.

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post Jul 22 2010, 06:10 PM

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Very informative, thanks. I didn't know shoes were that cheap there.

WRT shirts, I am incapable of returning to RTW anymore. None come remotely close to fitting me nor anyone I've met. My first encounter with a bespoke shirt was one being worn by the son of an industrialist. It was a plain light blue shirt, but I was stunned by it. It was the first time I saw a shirt that actually fit. There is no comparison to RTW.

I have seen the online CT sales of 4 shirts for 100 pounds, but the patterns are of the experimental sort. CT shirts also seem to have really bad cloths from the few examples I've inspected in person. No doubt T&A are better at 50 pounds each during sales, but I can have bespoke shirts of comparable workmanship with Acorn fabrics of my choice from their Grange range of cloths for less than that.

Your CT suits are keenly priced and I look forward to seeing fit pics. I believe AL can make you significantly better suits for a bit less money. They only ever cost me a touch more than RM1k each, and they are cut to my personal pattern and configured to my every wish. The cloth is anything you can source yourself. I've only used stuff from Huddersfield to-date (of course 100% wool), but you can also source for Dugdale yourself at a premium of about RM300/suit over ebay cloths.

But the shoes are definitely something to shop for in London...

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post Jul 22 2010, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(beau @ Jul 21 2010, 10:36 AM)
Nice . My thoughts on this are as follows:-

1. It's difficult to buy shoes off the net or by mail order unless one is familiar with the cut & fit of the shoe in question. The added challenge with pre-owned shoes is it's condition. It is one thing to look silly in ill fitting clothes but ill fitting shoes may result in bunions , callouses and other feet related problems.

2. Further , the asking price is close to a new pair one could purchase at an outlet in Europe .

3. Then there is the brand itself. Berluti RTW are made by Ferrara by Stefanobi in Italy. Most of their RTW range are Blake finished instead of Goodyear welted . This poses a challenge when the shoes require refurbishment or repairs. Contrary to popular belief, Blake finished shoes can be repaired but at significantly higher costs than Goodyear Welted ones .

4.  The patinized Venezia leather of the Berluti is it's key attraction. However it is very delicate & does not survive abuse easily.

5. Berluti RTW is generally available in one width which makes it challenging for those of us whose feet are of different widths.

6. Berluti does offer an MTM service or special order but there are no ability to vary the size & fit ( only the leather,color & sole design can be altered ). I believe the MTM versions are made by the abovenamed manufacturer.

7. If you are one of the fortunate few to be offered the "sur mesure" ( bespoke ) service & it is easily within your means ( after you've IPO your business ) , go for it. The bespoke versions are still made in their Paris workshops. I used the term "offered" as some individuals I know have requested this service & are still waiting for the last 6 to 9 months to be measured. It may be another 1 to 1 half  years before they will eventually obtain the finished pair.

In the meantime enjoy the following:-
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Those Lobbs are very nice.

But these are nicer still.
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post Jul 22 2010, 09:52 PM

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They're water-polished leh

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post Jul 23 2010, 09:44 PM

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Nice enough, but somewhat pricey...

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http://finsforhim.com/products.asp?id=4&action=george-loafer

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post Jul 24 2010, 10:40 AM

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Do a search for "cobbler" on the S&F main page.
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post Jul 24 2010, 11:44 AM

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The suggestion is Ikano, basement, next to a news kiosk.


Added on July 24, 2010, 11:47 amhttp://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1152517&hl=cobbler

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