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post Jul 25 2010, 10:16 PM

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I cannot stand the tassels.
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post Jul 26 2010, 05:12 PM

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What wasn't perfect about it?

I was there yesterday to have them redo the heels of my Church's.


Added on July 26, 2010, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(BonVivant @ Jul 26 2010, 12:48 AM)
Looks like Ralph Lauren purple label tassel loafers to me. I think EG makes them for Rl though.

BTW, has anyone seen Tom Ford shoes? I just saw them in Harrods yesterday and they looked really great. The leather is well antiqued and the shape of the shoe was very unique - traditionally shaped with very slim soles. The downside - they retail for £900. I wonder who makes them.

P.S. - I realise some of you attach a thin rubber layer on your shoes. Doesn't that defeat the purpose (besides aesthetic) of wearing goodyear welted leather soled shoes since it reduces the ability for your feet to breathe?
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BV, the soles of a shoe are impervious to moisture. If they weren't, your socks would get wet if the outsole is wet. But they don't, and your socks remain dry even after extensive walking on wet roads because there is no moisture transfer from the outsole to the insole (and vice versa). This whole "soles which breathe" story is just another marketing nonsense spread by shoemakers in the effort to get you to avoid topying your shoes. They make a lot of money re-soling old ones -- something they would do less of if customers topied their shoes.

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post Jul 27 2010, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(beau @ Jul 27 2010, 12:09 PM)
Went to Thomas Chan in BSC that does bespoke shoes. I am considering having him copy my aging pair of Poulsen Skones in an Oxblood wholecut.

The lady didn't understand what "goodyear welt" means .I also enquired about the  lasts & fittings. The sales lady seem flustered and suggested I call the designer directly

The estimated costs are RM$700 and takes approximately a month to complete. I will call him and make enquiries on the above issues . Hopefully this can be a potential source on well constructed reasonably priced shoes without the ensuing Cantonese exchanges!!
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Sorry to deflate your enthusiasm beau, but I don't think you should expect bespoke at that venue! They probably already have their lasts in the usual sizes, and bespoke here probably means you get to chose your materials and design. How did their finished products look like? You did inspect them, didn't you?
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post Jul 29 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(beau @ Jul 29 2010, 01:15 PM)
Further to my last posting , I spoke to Thomas Chan. The conversation was pleasant & he seems to know his stuff. a big change after encountering the sales person at one of his outlets.

1. The price of RM$700 is for the machine made rubber soled variety. The fully handmade bespoke version will cost approximately RM$2,000 & will take 2 to 3 months. It's still faster & cheaper than the Lobbs or other European Bespoke shoes that will take a minimum of 9 months to a year for the first fitting. At STG400 , it will be the same price point as a entry level RTW Lobbs or EG or the custom grade Church's purchased in London.
2. The shoe can be made with goodyear welting as well as insoles to cater for any deficiencies with one's feet.
3. He will make a last of the feet & have 2 fittings before the shoe is closed.
4. The downside is the leather available. He can only provide Italian leather which is thiner than the English variety

He said he will have to make the shoe personally as the sifu who is experienced in making these types of shoes has just retired.He seems to know about the double stitching that is a feature of Lobbs. He suggested having a double layer of leather if the client requests for thicker leather

Food for thought but I will probably explore the other 2 outlets I spoke about before deciding on whether to pursue the bespoke path a la Malaysian.
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Wow, I think lanatir is now glued to this thread and awaiting your first commission before he springs in himself. So very interesting. RM2k is not exaggerated at all if it is what I imagine it to be.
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:14 PM

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Church's go on holiday...

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I had some German rubber put on

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post Aug 3 2010, 05:06 PM

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Ace Hardware has Kiwis and such. Perfect for Ferero Gamos.
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post Aug 3 2010, 05:15 PM

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Added on August 3, 2010, 5:22 pmOf course I should probably add that no shoe connoisseur uses Kiwi.

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post Aug 3 2010, 05:35 PM

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The sheen of a pisang emas is different from that of a Cuban banana.


Added on August 3, 2010, 6:08 pmPlal has the best waxes and creams in the country. And so has my favourite cobbler in Ikano.

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post Aug 3 2010, 06:45 PM

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It bears no resemblance to mine. Mine is 10".
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post Aug 7 2010, 07:19 PM

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You're 21 but have graduated? So what are you gonna do now, go work for papa?
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post Aug 16 2010, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(beau @ Aug 15 2010, 10:19 AM)
Scribes?

Any info on customized Scribes? ( Not that I'm interested )


Added on August 15, 2010, 2:18 pm

Good choice of stuff at Ikano, especially the Saphirs The down side is dealing with the bespectacled lady who is a typical charm school drop out at the counter . No complaints about the workmanship & repairs
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That lady would be the boss' wife; very unsophisticated. Not very smart either. I'm sure she was once a pretty girl. I normally talk either to the boss or the other lady.

But they always deliver meticulous workmanship, and the workers are sensitive to the needs of the shoe. They are also very responsive to my custom requests.

You should have seen the difference between the cobbling my Church's came in and what they did. The Singaporean cobbler was an absolute hack. The shoes were completely out of balance, and the glue job amateurish. The boss laughed at what he saw. "You had this done in Singapore? Hahahah. Look, look, this is a Singaporean job," he showed his wife.
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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Aug 15 2010, 10:26 PM)
thanks for the information. it is very much appreciated.

i saw a few J&M at the local store, selling well below rm600 per pair and i thought it was a good deal. i didn't check where were they made of. however, after given a deep thought, i went for something from uk, something i am familiar with, something not SF approved.

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Looks good, Bordeaux is a unique colour. Did you get a Bordeaux wax/cream with it?
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post Aug 16 2010, 05:14 PM

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I don't think they have Bordeaux. Just clear, tan, mid brown, brown and black.

Suede I hardly care for. Sometimes vacuum, sometimes brush with the crepe brush. I have a impregnator for it that I applied once when new.
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post Aug 16 2010, 10:47 PM

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I believe the Tan Sri just sent you a PM.
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:00 PM

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I bought a tin of a shoe wax the other day. It is a brand none of you have probably heard of. The reason I bought it was because it was mahogany colour -- a nearly impossible to find colour locally -- and I applied a layer and just came back from buffing off with a horsehair brush.

Mai f***ing God. Shiny like hell, and the solvent is organic turpentine (same as Saphir). Fantastic. RM5. Will be buying more!!
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Aug 16 2010, 11:07 PM)
silencer, not only hugo boss is a taboo, in fact all luxury brands will be pawned by you-know-who tongue.gif 
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Added on August 16, 2010, 11:30 pm
QUOTE(silencer @ Aug 16 2010, 10:53 PM)
hahahaha.....i was going to do that...before reading your reply.....talk about..dejavu...

By the way....why no one bother talking about Ferragamo shoes....the most comfortable shoes for me....beside the prada sneakers.....and no doubt that Church shoes...is one hell of gorgeous looking shoes.....just a teaser..hugo boss shoes is taboo to be discussed here...... shocking.gif

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Front -from L-R - Church, 3 Hugo Boss
back - from L-R - Lousy Timebrland, 4 Ferragamo.

Darn my S90- the pic so blur.....
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The third Ferero Gamo from left and the Church's are very nice. They look like very recent acquisitions.

You need a pair in tan/chesnut.

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post Aug 17 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Aug 17 2010, 10:14 AM)
thats a new term. Do sartorialist judge fashion? my limited googling skills didn't seem to pt to that.

aren't berluti, john lobb etc luxury brands??? a quick google they are not any cheaper than lux brands such as Paul smith, Hugo Boss etc.
they cost more than a custom made shoes by a unknown shoe maker in Italy!
these lux brand go again the "holy bible" the Satan of shoe fashion?  tongue.gif

seem like this is their only approved list. wear something and still need to seek approval to feel good. wow..really need help man.  sweat.gif
http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=12201
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It's about the shoe, not the brand. Those shoes advertised in GQ never make the cut in SF because they are more about the brand than they are about the shoe.


Added on August 17, 2010, 10:57 amYou'll also notice that shoemakers in good regard all manufacture their own shoes. They pay salaried workers, they own the workshop, they make their skin selection, they plan their annual capex. Brands like Hugo Boss & Paul Smith use contract manufacturers in Italy. They are not shoemakers, but rather marketing machines.

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post Aug 17 2010, 12:28 PM

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I had wonderful brake pads installed on my car. Buttery smooth pedal feel, more cengkam than OEMs. Cannot tell you the brand though.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 17 2010, 05:19 PM)

On Topic : Is it even possible to have a nice shoe which we only need to polish once a month and is durable enough to wear daily?
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I do not polish my Chucks and I used to wear them daily.
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:21 PM

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I think those shoes would fit you very well. Buy a few pairs and make them your OneShoe. Really, I'm not being being sarcastic or trying to lead you down the road to sartorial perdition. I'm too pure a soul for those.

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