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post Dec 24 2009, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Dec 24 2009, 12:58 AM)
Maybe its the angle prob kot hmm...
Anw my last C.Marg molted to 7instar finally, but i still cant sex them doh.gif
Its either both female or both have one more molt to go before sexual dimorphism occur hmm.gif
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Who else aside from Andy got C.Margaritatus now?
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The pics make your C.marg look female. But they're not mature yet. Bang on one or two more moults before attempting breeding, Ryo.
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post Dec 24 2009, 11:41 AM

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From what i read they are sexually matured at 7instar but i'm skeptical too
Will wait longer and see how it goes, hopefully they have one more molt to go

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post Dec 24 2009, 12:03 PM

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if only u can find a male now.. at 7i and test if they will mate...
(I predict some flaming on me...)
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post Dec 24 2009, 12:08 PM

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Buthidae are known to be sexually matured even before their final molt from what i read
But then again, sexual dirmophism only occur after their final molt so now i cant sex them
Im thinking that C.marg final molt is when they reach 8instar but they are sexually matured at 7instar because most of the post i read in ab and vl suggested they matured at 7instar but there is a thread where a C.marg reach 8instar in VL
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post Dec 24 2009, 12:16 PM

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hmmm.. then it would b a challenge for you to actually sex it accordingly. What left to do now is wait till they reach 8i. Unless you have a confirm male in your hand and try out if they would 'dance'... If only my one still alive i could try on urs.. but seems have to ask Andy or other keepers if can try out the little experiment..
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post Dec 24 2009, 12:29 PM

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Sorry my mistake, it looks like buthidae doesnt have a fix number of molt before they reach maturity
Some can matured in 6instar while some specimen of the same species can matured on later instar
So i guess it's best we wait later tongue.gif
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post Dec 24 2009, 12:46 PM

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A 6th instar heiress would look more robust than the ones seen in the pic. Your scorpion looks more like a 5th instar Ryo.

Bugs are often lumped into batches of instars ranging from X to Z. Even though they come from the same brood, some moult faster than the others. Confusion in instars are quite common especially during the first few moults when size difference before and after moults are pretty much negligible in underfed youngs. I've also been sold scorpions like that - underfed, undersized, undercount and even deformed scorpions - by a certain Philippino. I'm not saying that your seller did it deliberately though. He's a genuine and good guy.

My 2 kupang 5 duit.
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Well im not sure if i counted the instar wrongly or not but i received them as mixture of 2 and 3instar back then
The 2 that i took are the biggest among the group so i consider them as 3instar and counted and record every molt and am pretty sure they are 7instar now if im correct bout their instar when i choose them in the beginning
Both molted 4times under my care, perhaps they are just 2instar when i pick them up or else i have no idea why they are so small now sad.gif
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Dec 24 2009, 12:58 AM)
Who else aside from Andy got C.Margaritatus now?
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Try and ask junshern,
i think one of his classmate got wink.gif
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post Dec 27 2009, 07:13 PM

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hmmm.. very quite in here... people are getting ready for the New Year probably...
well happy new year then... and penises are growing in my Scorps enclosure.. have to go and circumcise it..

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post Dec 27 2009, 09:51 PM

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Penises? No pussies? That's a sad group of gay scorp u have there
Anyway, back from work today and found the substrate on my balsasensis babies are all stirred up
I think someone knock the container down....
Upon opening, one of the babies are munching another in its chelicarae
Oh well, not sure if its kill by the muncher or died from the fall but i do left a lot of cricket legs before leaving them
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The balsasensis
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The rest, u all guess
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post Dec 28 2009, 12:06 AM

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Nice pics man... Those little cuteys...
the penises that i was talking about are mushrooms growing in the subs... I think its time to change the subs again.....
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post Dec 28 2009, 09:28 PM

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h.h 7 instar smile.gif
hope it make it thru smile.gif

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post Dec 30 2009, 12:19 PM

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So lester.. hows the Hot hot...?
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post Dec 30 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(rideon @ Dec 30 2009, 01:19 PM)
So lester.. hows the Hot hot...?
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yap ... it make it thru .............
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post Dec 30 2009, 12:22 PM

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no pic??
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QUOTE(rideon @ Dec 30 2009, 01:22 PM)
no pic??
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lol.... didn't take tongue.gif

hehe lazy tongue.gif
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post Dec 30 2009, 12:23 PM

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lol...well its good to hear that the hot hot have molted successfully..
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post Dec 30 2009, 11:44 PM

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7i h.h smile.gif
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the tail is still soft and still able to see thru smile.gif
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post Dec 31 2009, 12:26 AM

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Nice, now wait 4-8months for babies tongue.gif

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