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Household Road outside the car gate(photo updated), Need your help and opinion

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post Sep 23 2009, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 23 2009, 02:51 PM)
Yes. i dun mind some ppl put object to block car to park infront the gate. atleast u have car need to drive in and out.
but she dun have car and then put 2 rubbish bin. and 1 is block my drive way to enter in and out.

during pasar malam, some ppl also park infront my house but atleast the driver is inside the car. so i m OK with it.

The old woman keep say the land is belong to her...dun know where she get the info la.
so ask our house car canot cross over her land when we wan to open the car gate to park in.
so i ask her to drive my car and try to park in...she say tis is not her problem, ask us solve ourself. vmad.gif

tonite the sarjan back from raya holiday. all housemate need to go police station cos the old woman log the police report. rclxub.gif
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if u didnt brought the inconvenience to old lady, nothing to worry that log report at police station unless the old lady have the evidences (photos) that your car parked there without driver inside...

i allowed my neighbour / visitor to park in front my house but as long as they can move their car immediately when we need the space that time... i hate those cars park in front my house, horn for 10+ minutes but those people pretend deaf, pray that they are really deaf and i still can comfort myself bit... tongue.gif

i had a rude neighbour previously, me and dad always stay clam on the family and disturbing our life even though we no crossed their boundary, such as we using brick (used to block my gate when opening) located in front my house the family also throw into draining system PLENTY of times... rolleyes.gif at last i had a puppy and the family's kid keen to touch it, unsure whether it bite the child thru the fencing, definitely no harm the kid (no medical required) hence was the kid's hand crossed the fence himself, no the dog crossed... doh.gif at last the kid's dad whack the puppy's nose thru the fence till blooded and sick for week... i wait for my dad arrival, my dad immediate step in front him and scold him, so i joined along for that conflict and threaten him as well, some sort of "if your kid running in front my house i will whack your kid since crossed my boundary like how u whack my dog till blooding" (of cos i wont be so violent)... later that midnight police ask for log report, nothing happen after report... 2 weeks later the family relocated to other house...

i no telling u to rude with old lady like me... otherwise u can request her to report her TS every time when u "park" in front ur house, as believe the TS will fed up on her anytime as well... tongue.gif but of cos if u didnt do nothing wrong, nothing to worry, as believe police may fed up with the old lady and stop taking action onto your friends too... in future if the old lady have visitors, step out and inform the visitor you allow them for short moments bcos that old lady no allow any car in front her house... whistling.gif hence nothing wrong u did, nothing that police can do on you & u all pretend dont know anything, say "We going to police station HAPPILY" when requested by police and u all going to police station... maybe the old lady may relocate to another peaceful places later... tongue.gif

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post Sep 23 2009, 04:11 PM

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legally, i think there's nothing much you can do except tolerate her. or u can call DBKL/MPPJ/etc. to pay her a visit and explain the rules and regulations to her as she thinks she owns the whole neighbourhood.

illegally, i suggest chucking some dog/cat/human poo on her porch. molotov cocktails are fine too. sweat.gif


Added on September 23, 2009, 4:12 pm
QUOTE(gkl83 @ Sep 23 2009, 04:06 PM)
if u didnt brought the inconvenience to old lady, nothing to worry that log report at police station unless the old lady have the evidences (photos) that your car parked there without driver inside...

i allowed my neighbour / visitor to park in front my house but as long as they can move their car immediately when we need the space that time... i hate those cars park in front my house, horn for 10+ minutes but those people pretend deaf, pray that they are really deaf and i still can comfort myself bit... tongue.gif

i had a rude neighbour previously, me and dad always stay clam on the family and disturbing our life even though we no crossed their boundary, such as we using brick (used to block my gate when opening) located in front my house the family also throw into draining system PLENTY of times...  rolleyes.gif at last i had a puppy and the family's kid keen to touch it, unsure whether it bite the child thru the fencing, definitely no harm the kid (no medical required) hence was the kid's hand crossed the fence himself, no the dog crossed... doh.gif  at last the kid's dad whack the puppy's nose thru the fence till blooded and sick for week... i wait for my dad arrival, my dad immediate step in front him and scold him, so i joined along for that conflict and threaten him as well, some sort of "if your kid running in front my house i will whack your kid since crossed my boundary like how u whack my dog till blooding" (of cos i wont be so violent)... later that midnight police ask for log report, nothing happen after report... 2 weeks later the family relocated to other house...

i no telling u to rude with old lady like me... otherwise u can request her to report her TS every time when u "park" in front ur house, as believe the TS will fed up on her anytime as well...  tongue.gif but of cos if u didnt do nothing wrong, nothing to worry, as believe police may fed up with the old lady and stop taking action onto your friends too... in future if the old lady have visitors, step out and inform the visitor you allow them for short moments bcos that old lady no allow any car in front her house...  whistling.gif  hence nothing wrong u did, nothing that police can do on you & u all pretend dont know anything... maybe the old lady may relocate to another peaceful places later... tongue.gif
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yeah...like six feet under. smile.gif

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post Sep 23 2009, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Sep 23 2009, 04:11 PM)

Added on September 23, 2009, 4:12 pm
yeah...like six feet under. smile.gif
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haha... i dont think SS2 was a peaceful place for old lady who no able to communicate with neighbour... wink.gif
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post Sep 23 2009, 04:15 PM

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The law is clear public road are for you to enter your house. She cannot block the road...

IMHO your neighbours behaviour is harrasment. Why don't you lodge your own police report? Submit the pictures and ask your mates to lodge similar complaints.

Also if you live in MPSJ you can submit an online complaint (aduan) with pictures and MPSJ will investigate.

Link:-

http://ocps.mpsj.gov.my/cms/content.jsp?id...7c6090-301f3e4d
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post Sep 23 2009, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 23 2009, 03:58 PM)
Her tenants is keep change every 2-3 month. i ask some ex tenants, they say they cannot tahan the old woman.
no visitor allow inside the house, no light/tv after 10pm. cannot relax at living area. cannot cook. and so many ....
her current tenants just dun wan quarell with her, just tahan her only. for me i wont lo..cos i can find other places to stay.
all of them keep ask me dun wan quarell with old woman..let her win.
but now she report police...sure we wont keep silent any more.

we have capture all photo wat she have done to my visitor car and my car as well.

sometimes we all very angry she keep say the road is belong to her when our car is cross over her places.
we just wan open gate to enter the house...but buta2 kena scold by her. she think she can bully us if we always silent?
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wah.. living like hell la like dat..
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post Sep 23 2009, 04:42 PM

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Hi TS, I think this is quite common problem/issue in housing area...at least that is what I think. When I move to a new place (few years ago - landed housing area), I decided to 'make a good relation" with the neighbours...
This is partly got to do with...possible problem that might occur in future...like, parking (like in your case), too much noises, etc...

What I trying to say is...is a 'give and take' situation....
I not sure is it too late for you to try to make the relationship better...
Personally if I am your neighbour...I will try to understand your situation (means let you park for a while...maybe that day you got some friends visits or etc).
I will only hate it when...it is obvious someone just dont like to park in front of their gate (for convenient for them to drive in-out of their other car that parked inside the gate)...everyday.

I'm not saying who is right or wrong here...just that, I feel that, we cant assume others people will think the same as we/me...especially like in your case, some feel is all right, some feel...is not all right...
That is the 1st thing. On the second thing, try to talk to this old lady...the earlier the better...(although I feel...quite late for it...but heck, worth to try).



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post Sep 23 2009, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(KenAragorn @ Sep 23 2009, 04:42 PM)
That is the 1st thing. On the second thing, try to talk to this old lady...the earlier the better...(although I feel...quite late for it...but heck, worth to try).
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actually nothing wrb7878 can talk with the old lady who always rude, used super glue and used Tan Sri/police to pressuring neighbour...

if the old lady was considerate ppl, she should inform wrb7878 why she no allow any vehicles stopped in front her house maybe bcos she may hav "ad-hoc decease" anytime and need support anytime... at last wrb7878 in future can assist her as well for in case she having any problems... win-win solutions, but the old lady never think about it... maybe she afraid the public will bully her, that why she so offensive and be strong all the time...

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post Sep 23 2009, 04:59 PM

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post Sep 23 2009, 05:17 PM

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well, she is a psycho. road outside house always belong to the local city hall.
just ignore her and do what you want to do.

maybe she thinks you look like a soft target.
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post Sep 23 2009, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 23 2009, 04:59 PM)
except tolerate her? as we do...but can u tahan every times when u come back open the gate.
she will scold u.....'you all no brain, tell u all so many times, dun park over my house' 'idiot'....can u all tahan?
next time i should record and let u all listen on it as well. photo + voice.....

now is no the car park infront her gate issue. issue is our car and ppl canot cross over her land outside the gate as well. WTF
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wrb7878, fully utilize ur handphone if have any video recording feature...
record it as video secretly few times and do it intentionally by stopping at the public road...
show the sarjan or her Tan Sri with the video or post into youtube (if required)...

next time, she coming out for conflict again, u do the video shooting intentionally in front her and say that video shown to sarjan... she will know who will be the shame... last time i did photo shooting with my cheapo digital camera on my neighbour's face too after he hit my puppy, also took the photo that the wooden stick that used to hit my puppy, police ask me when i took his photo when log report, i said he handsome & wish that to submit the photo for competition, police do nothing on me... tongue.gif

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post Sep 23 2009, 05:21 PM

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post Sep 23 2009, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 23 2009, 05:21 PM)
She always scold us and say "I stay here 8 years no problem with previous student, only u all", "so u and ur house ppl have problem and no brain"
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doubt on ur statement... thought u said her ex-tenants change every 2-3 months? tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2009, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 23 2009, 05:28 PM)
the small mater also wan to involved Tan Sri? My boss is 'Tun' and my housemate boss is 'Tan Sri' as well.
But we will feel malu to mention our boss name if only the small 'jiran' issue. so some ppl think they can bully ppl with TSri name pula.


Added on September 23, 2009, 5:29 pm

she is the Master tenant, she rent whole house from owner. then rent to other ppl.
the 'previous student' means they are stay at our current house b4 we move in.

she say she dun have 'jiran' problem with those student stay my current house now. only have problem after we move in.
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nvm... just have a video record to watch her how embarrass by speaking Tan Sri... tongue.gif
hence i also dislike to involve police bcos of neighbour issues only...

perhaps consult with ur housemate what they "did" on her that she so satisfy on them...
or ask the old lady what u all did that caused her against u all? too much night activities? too much sound pollution?
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wrb7878, don't waste your time and energy with her la unless you are very free... because I'm sure she has more time than you since she is not working...

just play psycho game with her la... the next time she comes out to scold you, just give her a big smileeeeeee... sure she bengang... heheh... don't worry, police will not lock u up for smiling wink.gif

anyway, maybe this issue might be a hint to you to start planning to get your own house/condo/aprt, and escape from this nuisance and hv a piece of mind.

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wao...wat a "great" neighbour u had there,pity u...but this typical kind of neighbour is sort of troublesome too...for me..i will play psycho game with her when i had time..ehehe...hope u solve ur neighbourhood problem asap..
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post Sep 24 2009, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 24 2009, 12:14 AM)
Just back from police station...very long story.
The old woman write 6 full page of story to police.
but i believe the sarjan din read it...cos he ask us to read and explain to him. But sarjan take action bcos the old woman complaint to KPN.
Any 1 know wat IS KPN? i saw 1 letter head from KPN. i think is local complaint community?

Will tell more the detail on the 6 page story.
now really tired. better go to bed and sleep.
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as believe KPN =Ketua Police Negara sweat.gif

perhaps request the sarjan for any evidences from old lady...
and u submit along your photo/video to the sarjan along your explanation...
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post Sep 24 2009, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 24 2009, 11:17 AM)
Now i will tell the main point of the full 6 story paper.

1. The report start with title "My gangster neigbour"
any evidences shown u holded parang or pistol before? or driving ah beng car with vroom exhaust

2. I cant imagine she write down every thing since we move in on April 2008.
Ignore her... u tell the old lady start onward anythings wrong on ur house or ur car will report to police too...

3.She mention in report, say we call her "lao ku bo".
start from now onward call her "leng lui" then...  tongue.gif

4. this thing i never know until i read her report only. she say we purpose put the food inside her house, so all the cat will go inside her house.
Any animals able to grab food into any areas... if she kew u locate food in her house she should catch u on the spot... why report in wording only hence no evidences at all...

5. She say if the car park infront of other ppl gate, they should take their own risk?
Tell sarjan about super glue issues, hence the old lady no warned ur friend before she take actions


Added on September 24, 2009, 11:21 am

i know KPN = Ketua police Negara
but tat 1 is nothing do with KPN abv. KPN is a company name or social community name.

now the sarjan dun wan to know who is right o wrong. 2nite will meet us, both party.
will ask us whether wan to cool down and settle 'damai' o not. else both party will charge under KPx97(cant remember)
The charges means both party dun wan to live harmory as a community wo.
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no point to argue with her again, definitely police may assist old citizens more and young teenagers... inform sarjan that u step backward for once... better that u ask the old lady what she required... request her to list down everything in black & white into documents and check what her response on your ideas...

and also inform sarjan and old lady if anything happened on ur house / car and u obeyed all the required rules, she will be the 1st person suspect who creating the problems...

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