Among bad apples, there are good apples, and vice versa.

imu-pms is an easier backdoor pathway into 1st world med schools........and is a bit cheaper than direct entry..........

many parents are eyeing one of the coveted places, as it is usually a ticket for the student/family out of msia.....i know many students amongst my friends and acquaintances who have graduated from uk and oz within the last 5 years, both private and scholars......and i only know of one who came back to msia to work from nz.....several of course ended up in spore......

I need an advice/opinion here: If one is given chance to choose between taking MBBS in CUCMS or Taylor's which institute should he/she choose? (pro and cons would help). Thanks

normally its 2 years of preclin and 3 years of clin years in msia. My uni kinda overlaps both in the 3rd year as we're having CNS lectures as well as starting our clin rounds. Well, with many new med schools sprouting out like weeds, it's normal for them to lower their entry requirements to attract more students. Med education has turned into some sort of business in malaysia. that's how I see it. There are definitely exceptions to that.
Leave those people to crash and burn on their own =) basically from first year we're taught to do reflections. I think that really helps in character building. (and also looooooooooots of lectures on ethics and professionalism, public health etc etc) Then again, you'll still see some arrogant bunch lurking around till you graduate.

sure, limeuu is one of the most mature and experienced forumners here. most new forumners have no idea how much he had contributed to this thread.

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Added on August 30, 2011, 11:43 pm

oops, sry i meant lowyat.

'translators' in msia means the nearest nurse/orderly/medical assistant/amah/cleaner/relative/bystander who speaks the lingo.........

you have been in oz too long......

msians ,if  poor historian coupled with lack of investigative facilities how to diagnose then.

in developed countries, if u have poor history it's ok coz you can always order a multitude of scans and tests lol

that's whyive been asking around how do IPTA grads fare. if the uni standards deteriorating but grads are still highly competent then it's fine.

Oh wow...

our ex PM Dr. mahathir is the chancellor for the perdana university...

the more pertinent question, at his age is, not whether he can walk, but whether he will be around to see the graduation.....he is already 86.......

msia needs to downsize its medical education network to no more than 20 med schools, including both ipts and ipta....

generally, a rule of thumb to determine the number of medical schools needed, and the number of new doctors required (once steady state is reached) is one med school per 2 million population, and 100 medical students per million population....therefore, each med school have the optimal number of students per year, ie about 200....intakes of 50 or 100 is NOT efficient or cost effective.....

malaysia's population is about 32 million at the moment....so we only really need 16 medical schools and 3200 medical students per year.......we have 33 programmes and an estimated 5000 new medical students per year....half of which are from overseas....mainly russia, egypt and indonesia......

so UK approx how much ? all in 1mil?

Totally agree with it  , malaysian are used to spoon fed, which is one of the failures in education. and due to that, we r not motivated and discipline enough to further advance our studies on our own paced.

onelove, utas uses the old system of medical education (it's a very old med school), although they have recently revamp the syllabus.......there will therefore be significant didactic teaching, especially in the 1st 2 years........

many med schools try to bridge the dryness of the pre-clinical years by early clinical exposure, clinical correlation content, and some amount of intergrating and pbl learning....

newer med schools have gone completely integrated, and some have significant clinical correlation from year 1....although my personal opinion is, without the necessary basic knowledge, clinics often fails to be useful for most students....

cckkpr, which med school are you in?....