got only one pic posted by arj in my thread

boo sama redscorpion .. lari again. asia cafe is good place to be. from lose to win la .. goal to offside .. superb place ... feng shui very good

abang corez, asiacafe using projector right? clear kah?

and that means corez and him are jinx.

eh..why man city got quite nice away kit? mcm kelab south america either Sao Paulo or Corinthians..nice la..

 



btw, nice jersey 

LONDON, Aug 31 – Arsène Wenger has reopened hostilities between Manchester United and Arsenal by accusing the Premier League champions of using “anti-football” tactics during their 2-1 victory at Old Trafford on Saturday.

Wenger is to receive an official apology for being banished from the dugout but he remains incensed by the “Old Trafford-ish” standard of refereeing and his conviction that Sir Alex Ferguson’s players, predominantly Darren Fletcher, were guilty of systematic fouling.

After a period of relative calm between Wenger and Ferguson the allegations will go down badly at Old Trafford after a match in which Arsenal had six players booked, triggering an automatic £25,000 fine from the Football Association.

The conduct of Wenger’s players was also brought into question by Emmanuel Eboué being shown a yellow card for diving, a day after Eduardo da Silva had been charged by Uefa for “deceiving the referee” for a similar offence, but the Arsenal manager insisted the “bigger problem” in football was of players being allowed to get away with persistent and deliberate fouling – and he pointed an accusatory finger at Ferguson’s men.

“There are other points (than diving) that, for me, are more urgent – players who play only to make fouls and who are never punished; players who make repeated fouls and who get out of the game without a yellow card. That, for me, is more anti-football than a player who did what Eduardo did.”

Wenger was asked to clarify whether he meant Fletcher and laughed, replying with mock surprise: “Why do you say the name?” Fletcher had given away six free-kicks, twice as many as any of his team-mates, but was not one of the three United players to get a yellow card.

“I have seen a player who plays only on the pitch to make repeated fouls,” Wenger continued. “Look at how many deliberate fouls some players make and get away with. I think that’s a bigger problem (than diving) because it cuts the flow of the game. And people come and pay to see football. They do not come to see free kicks. You should ask the referees (how they get away with it).”

Wenger has accused Ferguson’s players of using similar tactics in the past, most notably saying his team had been “kicked off the pitch” at Old Trafford during the 2004-05 season.

It was put to him that he had previously suspected this was a deliberate part of United’s strategy. “You will have to ask them,” he replied.

On this occasion, however, the Frenchman may have opened himself to allegations of diversion tactics at a time when Eduardo and, to a lesser extent, Eboué have embarrassed the club. Robin van Persie also gave away six free-kicks even if, unlike Fletcher, he was booked.

The manager who has become infamous for his insistence that he did not see controversial incidents did, at least, recognise did recognise that Eboué had tried to win a free-kick by going down under a non-existent challenge, but there was no condemnation and, likewise, he continued to insist that Eduardo was the victim of a Uefa “witch-hunt.”

He said: “I think it is difficult with diving. Sometimes players dive to escape being hit. It’s not always necessarily diving because you want to dive. Sometimes it’s a way of getting out of the way. The borderline between being sensible, being shrewd or being a cheat is very slim so, in some cases, to assess which is which is very difficult.”

Arsenal, he insisted, were a club that did not tolerate diving. “I like that,” he said, when asked whether it mattered more in England than other countries. “I think it’s a quality in this country. In some countries it is a quality to dive. I’m still more proud to be part of England where they fight against that.”

The referee, Mike Dean, acting on the advice of the fourth official, Lee Probert, sent off Wenger in the final moments of Saturday’s game for kicking a water bottle in frustration after a disallowed goal.

However, the FA is unlikely to take disciplinary action. Instead, the League Managers’ Association chief executive, Richard Bevan, spoke to the Premier League referees’ chief, Keith Hackett, and was informed that Wenger would receive an apology.

“Although [the decision was] correct in law, it was completely out of context in the game and it was followed by the nonsense over where Wenger should sit,” Bevan said. “I’ve spoken to Keith Hackett and he fully recognises the situation was an error and an apology will follow. Lee Probert totally failed to manage the situation and created a needless pressure point, taking the focus away from the pitch in a big event with only a minute to go.”

Eduardo will discover on Tuesday whether Uefa is to ban him for the exaggerated fall that led to Arsenal winning a penalty in their 3-1 defeat of Celtic in last week’s Champions League qualifiers. Arsenal will fight his case and Wenger said the club had television pictures to prove that the forward had been touched by Celtic’s goalkeeper, Artur Boruc.

“Uefa have made the case of Eduardo. If you watch the Super Cup on Friday then they will have to charge (Lionel) Messi for headbutting or they will lose credibility. They have opened something there that over the weekend I’ll find you 50 situations where they can intervene, or if they don’t Eduardo will be singled out for being a wrong victim.

“I do not want Messi to be punished but, if they go for Eduardo, then people will demand it. Pedro, also of Barcelona, dived as well [in the Super Cup] and so I don’t think there’s any logic to Eduardo’s case. We have clear proof that from behind he was touched on his right leg.”

Wenger is suspicious about the number of Scots in prominent positions at Uefa and added: “There is no common sense. I believe it was a more emotional decision really because if Uefa had said before the season starts, ‘Listen, let’s get together and no matter what happens in Uefa games, if we suspect someone of diving he will be punished’ then you could say, OK, we’ve always been told they will do that. But suddenly, out from nowhere because it was an emotional situation in Scotland, we have this situation and have to live with that.” – Guardian

Player Ratings – Manchester United 2-1 Arsenal

Foster – 7 - Should have done better for the goal, but redeemed himself with a point blank save from van Persie which kept us in the game at 1-0. Still not convinced he can be our number 1.

O’ Shea – 5 - Positioning poor on a couple of occasions. Didn’t really stand a chance against the excellent Arshavin.

Brown – 7 - Impressive performance after so long injured. He’s slowly finding his form again as has been shown by his England call up. I do feel he’s better as a right back though.

Vidic – 6 - Not his best game. Turned inside out by van Persie in the first half and failed to close Arshavin down for the goal.

Evra – 7 - Never seems to have a bad game. Excellent in defense and in attack as always.

Valencia – 6 - He kept it simple and didn’t try anything special. Could have attacked Clichy more and tried getting balls into the box, but a solid game nonetheless.

Fletcher – 8 - Excellent performance from the Scot. He’ has become our best midfielder this season. I’m still unsure whether that’s a good or bad thing.

Carrick – 5 - Shocking really. As simple as that. Needs to pull his finger out or face a long spell on the sidelines.

Giggs – 6 - Awful in the first half. Gave away possession time and again. Rating higher than it would be due to him having a hand in both goals.

Nani – 6 - His partnership with Evra on the left wing is developing well. Much of our good work (rare though it was) was done on the left flank.

Rooney – 7 - Very isolated up front but stuck to his task and won the penalty. Kept his nerve to equalize from the spot.

Your own rating? Carrick is nowhere near 5, he was very good and his best game this season.

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Added on August 31, 2009, 11:54 am
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agree with u quite much..
but for me..

valencia - after seeing him play a few matches..i started to wonder whether is he REALLY good enuf to play for man utd..during the arsenal game..he kena attacked by other players more than he attack other players..GG...well..only time will tell

nani - eventhough many of u will still disagree with it..i still dont think the team can rely on him (yet?) ..always MIA when it matters the most (as usual)...zzz

berba - his '30mil' shot during the last few mins against arsenal makes me lol..who cares if he got nice touches when he cant even shoot..lol

yea..u might say when he and park came off the bench..our striking department look much 'sharper', for me..its more like arsenal are putting more men forwards and started to neglect their defensive department rather than our striking department turns 'sharper'

i wonder where's our midfield creativity goin to come from...and what will happen if rooney is injured...who's gonna drag the whole team up

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Your own rating? Carrick is nowhere near 5, he was very good and his best game this season.

I've finally managed to give my own opinion on the game after internet deprived for the past 2 days. From what I've seen, we are no champions material YET but at least we still have the champions luck. I'm surprised with the 5 men midfield, but somehow that's expected from SAF who likes to cramp the midfield against the Top 4 in order to gain possession. But that leaves Rooney isolated upfront, he still unable to play the lone frontman yet but can see he's improving. It used to be Ronaldo in that role, as he has a strong header, speed and can attract the defenders to him and bringing others into the play.

Rooney tries his best to win headers and on few occassion he did. But no one was there supporting him, a role which I have expected Giggs to fill but his age has clearly caught up to him. At least last time Ronaldo has Rooney at his side which he can feed to, but I can see no one with Rooney on that role, no one has gone close to him perhaps Evra and Fletcher on some occasion. It's very disappointing to see Rooney trying his best yet no one understands him.

Another area that need to be work on is the right wing. Park did more in his 20 min cameo than Valencia. Valencia clearly need to work on the chemistry with the team, on countless occasion i see, there are only few link up play coming from Valencia and O'Shea, unlike Nani and Evra on the left. He still seem clueless cutting in from the right to the middle. Giggs first half performance was awful as well, stray passes or passes cut.

Fletcher is indeed bringing more influence to the team. I might be greedy but I do hope he can polish his scoring boots as well, he is able to run into spaces in the box but often his touch lets him down. Seriously we lacked of creativity at the moment and we are relying on Rooney too much. If he *touch wood* out, against more significant team we might struggle

agree with u quite much..
but for me..

valencia - after seeing him play a few matches..i started to wonder whether is he REALLY good enuf to play for man utd..during the arsenal game..he kena attacked by other players more than he attack other players..GG...well..only time will tell

nani - eventhough many of u will still disagree with it..i still dont think the team can rely on him (yet?) ..always MIA when it matters the most (as usual)...zzz

berba - his '30mil' shot during the last few mins against arsenal makes me lol..who cares if he got nice touches when he cant even shoot..lol

yea..u might say when he and park came off the bench..our striking department look much 'sharper', for me..its more like arsenal are putting more men forwards and started to neglect their defensive department rather than our striking department turns 'sharper'

i wonder where's our midfield creativity goin to come from...and what will happen if rooney is injured...who's gonna drag the whole team up