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post Aug 31 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(azuansabri @ Aug 31 2009, 09:55 PM)
Actually I was conned RM390 by this seller... I already asked for refund, and he promised for refund, but now he give me no respond... I'm compiling all the proofs before I expose his disgrace behaviour... maybe in a few days because i'm quite bz rite now...
Btw, keanzteoh, is there any chance that u can ask offside_zone to refund my money? thanks...
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WTF..

RM390?!

Can you compile everything and later share with us the photos of the jerseys he sold to you?

I am getting very upset now.

And as what chcher said.. you can take action against him if he still refuses to refund back..

A good lesson to others, please check with the seniors here or myself if you want to be sure that a jersey is really authentic or not. There are good honest sellers in LYN and ebay but then people like this tarnishes the good name of others.



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post Aug 31 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(dragonrock @ Aug 31 2009, 10:41 PM)
I wonder how was he allow into Jerseyman's jersey forum, looks like there was security breached. Please be more careful.
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Mate...

Do you possibly thing that I can predict all this to happen?

Last time we had a joker who caused trouble in the old thread... Likes to cause havoc, cari gaduh and post with RED coloured uppercase wordings.. Then he has another nickname, pretended to be that the original troublemaker wasn't him but his brother.. (he can tipu everyone but I have proof and I know la it was him all along.. we live in IT world ma.... remember all ip addresses are trackable) but still... with all the IT skills and whatever superhuman powers I might have, how I can tell something like this to happen?

Anyway because of this famous troublemaker, I had to filter those who wanted to join. But I feel betrayed because this guy was ok with me and originally kept asking questions nicely in this thread. Then later he was caught selling fakes.. That makes me feel cheated.

QUOTE(akkmutd0711 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:43 PM)
May I suggest jerseyman to maintain a list of fake jersey sellers into his first page R&R so forummers can deter from buying so-called 'ori' jerseys from them?
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Will consider doing it later.. But I don't want to humiliate people.. lets see how he sorts out his problem with azuansabri first. I am concerned on that and also feel pity with others who were cheated by the seller before. Sigh.. feels like I failed you guys..

QUOTE(azuansabri @ Aug 31 2009, 10:50 PM)
I will compile everything once i got back my camera from my gf...
Actually, i never knew before that a forum here and also my-fjc that can be resource for original jersey collectors until i was conned. I only knew the existence of this forum after i googled 'what is the difference between original jersey and fake jersey'...

the price is for 3 jerseys, all for MU's last season... i thought he got it cheap since it's already off season & his ebay feedback also look convincing...

zaidi, i haven't file a dispute with ebay becoz i thought i want to 'selesai secara baik'... but as he still don't refund my money, i think it is the time for me to retaliate...
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azuan,

Try to talk nicely to the seller and ask him to refund you. If he doesn't want to, you can talk to chcher and see what legal actions you can consider.

Hope that you can settle this 'secara baik'. I don't like confrontations as well..

And for the ebay purchase, we have 45 days limit before we can raise dispute. But I warn you, raising a dispute in ebay via paypal might not help because the geniuses at paypal for some reason still needs written endorsement proof from liable sources like Nike or Adidas to confirm that they are fake. I tried that and went to Nike Sales HQ office at The Curve, but it is pointless because they won't help because it was bought from ebay.

Again guys.... next time, if you are scared a jersey is fake or not, ask in this thread. We have experts around like chcher, pyroboy1911 and also members like akkmutd0711 or others to help... If jerseyman is not around.

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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Aug 31 2009, 11:59 PM)
hmmmmmmm just to double check.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

everton jersey. not much pics.
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Looks legit to me.. can see the washing tags and it should be similar to the england away 08-10.

But best to ask more photos from seller.
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post Sep 1 2009, 03:17 PM

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longamwai and azuansabri.

Please take this discussion offline via pm. I don't want this thread be tainted anymore with the issue again.

Everyone should stick back to 'jersey talk'.

Thank you.
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post Sep 1 2009, 08:34 PM

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Using plastic cover is best if you hang your jersey outside, not in the closet. This is because the heat and moisture inside can cause the PU typed namesets or sponsors to stick on the surface of the plastic cover.

Best is to hang it outside with plastic cover.

For me, I don't have plastic cover because I always try to wear my jerseys in rotation....No specific schedule because my collection somehow increases slowly.
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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Sep 1 2009, 10:00 PM)
a question to jerseyman or any other taikos out there,
Do they make an official version for 1992-1993 champions patch used by man utd?
I would like to purchase 1 at hob, but it looks like diy patch to me.
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Nope.

They were never made one officially. You can still go ahead and have it. Because in the 1992-1993 season, they actually used PU typed EPL patches on the man united jerseys that were actually worn by players.


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post Sep 1 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Sep 1 2009, 10:06 PM)
I see, no wonder the stitching looks off LOL
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To be more accurate, you better use PU type EPL patches. It is sold at HOB as well....

The embroidery ones were not used by United in the 1992-1993 inaugural EPL season.
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post Sep 1 2009, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Sep 1 2009, 10:12 PM)
I'm thinking to put at my kungfu shirt,
are you talking about this badge?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

if yes, it's really expensive !
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Ah.. for the kungfu jersey you can put either that patch or this one:

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ENGLAND-PREMIER-LEAG...emZ270370877314

The embroidered one is for the 1994-1995 season. The velvet one is for the 1995-1996 season, the season where Cantona did that kungfu kick.
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 1 2009, 11:12 PM)
yeah i've read you guys talk about him, so i'm not worried.
he has alot of stuff right?

i feel that we should support him since he's such a decent and trustworth seller.
better than buying from those fakers rite?
that's why i bought the LA galaxy after getting the yeovil. haha whistling.gif

the home looks real?
unfortunately i duno how to tell. =\
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All are real la...

The 94-96 home looks poor. The collars are totally faded. Better think twice.
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QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Sep 1 2009, 11:30 PM)
I'm not sure whether this is the right place to ask.. Anyone sold jersey to overseas buyer before? Some buyer from the U.S. wants to buy my jersey paying through paypal.. Any advice?
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Make sure you send the item to them using Pos Daftar or Pos Laju.

Pos Laju is a bit expensive because it is EMS.

But before you send it to them, get the correct amount of postage fee by checking at the Post Office.

Just make sure you've receipt the payment at your paypal account and insist on sending it using trackable shipping services. Don't use normal pos because the item might get missing later and it will be hard to claim back from pos malaysia.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 1 2009, 11:37 PM)
the retro MU ones are real?
but just bad condition rite?
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Yes la.... I already said that all are real right. If got fake sure pantas reply one.

QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Sep 1 2009, 11:52 PM)
Thanks for the advice jerseyman. Ok i will use EMS.. Let's say if i use EMS and i have the proof of postage, but if the buyer claims that he did not receive the jersey, will the buyer get the full refund and i sustain the full loss?
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No, you will be safe if the buyer raise it to Resolution Center. That is why it is vital to use trackable postage services such as pos laju or pos daftar.

EMS is a bit expensive.. I think might be RM50-RM70 but a bit faster than pos daftar (registered mail). The main important aspect is that you use a trackable pos services. Then keep the tracking code and receipts to save your ass later.

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QUOTE(Deadman_Inc @ Sep 2 2009, 01:49 PM)
I think it kinda redundant, but I just want to double confirm..

the old epl NN sold at q-line is the real thing (lextra) or DIY? I just come back from q-line and they said that the new stock for the old epl will come in next week. what that suppose to mean?
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The old epl NNs if it's lextra then the real thing.

Not sure about new stock for old epl NNs, could be the repro ones that were produced by SportingID.

QUOTE(afiqkhairi @ Sep 2 2009, 02:22 PM)
champions league namesets for arsenal 3rd kit will be sold locally or not? ali bb or r1?
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Yes it will be sold locally at ali BB and R1. Just wait for it to arrive.

QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ Sep 2 2009, 02:28 PM)
jerseyman.. how to purchase from kitbag?? bank in?? or kredit card??
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Credit card or debit card. Maybank ATM card that is converted into VISA debit card cannot be used.

QUOTE(ic3rock @ Sep 2 2009, 03:57 PM)
Should be lo, dunno they accept paypal anot, but i dont think so la...
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Cannot use paypal.

QUOTE(lit_ching @ Sep 2 2009, 04:55 PM)
For shipping to foreign country, even you are using PosDaftar service also not secured because when you track the package at Pos Malaysia website, the only information available is a series of number which denote particular country, nothing else.

When PayPal investigate a dispute raise from your buyer's, the percentage of lossing the dispute is very likely. Why, the tracking information not good enough to support as a proof of shipping. If you make a report to Pos Malaysia, it takes more than 6 months to receive a cheque from them providing that your item couldn't be found, normally the value of compensation isn't more than RM 100.

To play on the safe side, better opt for EMS service if your buyer's willing to pay for the cost which is pretty high.....
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Mate.

No matter what you use, pos daftar or EMS, both got receipt right? That is the proof paypal needs.

For Pos Daftar, you can contact the pos office at the country's destination for tracking purposes and for asking the new tracking code that ties with the one from Malaysia. Yes you can only check at Pos Malaysia website using the local tracking code, but you can do the same if you know the new tracking code that ties to the foreign country.

Tracking information + receipt of proof is good enough already. Why? I know because I've been through the dispute before la.


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Anyway here are some sneak peeks for the new national jerseys for World Cup 2010:

Portugal:

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Germany:

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QUOTE(rooneybeckham @ Sep 3 2009, 12:21 AM)
can any taikos here verify these 2 jersey?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

this seller has 100% +ve feedback..but, i found that previous jersey that he/she sold is in M and XL size only..
and i wonder where he/she can get so many stock for these jersey(include 07/08 champ league final, 08/09 champ league final. world club final jersey, etc)

thanks 1st rclxms.gif
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Both are fake.

Both use DIY embroidery of the UCL Final insignia.

Both jerseys have no barcode sticker on the white side of the price tag.

QUOTE(Makakeke @ Sep 3 2009, 01:03 AM)
btw, regarding the 92-93 champions patch few pages back, can this seller be trusted? is this patch worth buying?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...atchlink:top:en
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This kind of EPL champions badge has no copyright ownership. Chris Kay or SportingID didn't own the trademark of producing it. So you can buy it from this seller and this one looks almost identical to the actual one worn by the players. For the 1993-1994 season, the epl champions badge was firstly introduced and it was embroidered.

QUOTE(KahVII @ Sep 3 2009, 01:20 AM)
hey guys sorry if this has been asked before but I'm new to jersey and stuff.. I just wanna ask for NN printing at al-ikhsan, do they charge for a printing fee if I bring my own jersey (not purchased at their shop) aside from the number and letter charge?

to make it easier I wanna get 3 letter and 1 number, so it's RM18+35 but beside the RM53 do they still charge for a printing fee as well?

Thanks alot! Sorry for bothering ^^"
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Free of charge if the letters and numbers were purchased from them. No matter if you bought the jersey from them or not.

QUOTE(davinci888 @ Sep 3 2009, 05:54 AM)
Anyone know where to buy sevilla fc new jerseys? i cannot find in Singapore.. u all know which place got sell anot?
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You can try looking at ebay.

Or at soccer spain. I've already posted the info on the online store at the first page (post #8):

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8. Soccer-Spain Shop Spain
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This is a spanish online shop that sells almost all La-Liga team jerseys. For more information, visit their website at: http://www.soccer-spain.com/ssshop/shopwindow.html

Contact Information:
Address: SOCCER-SPAIN La Liga Shop, Apartado 6037, 08080 Barcelona, Spain
Shop manager: Hamish
Telephone: 00-34-93-4342277
Fax: 00-34-93-4342278
Email: shop@soccer-spain.com
          customersupport@soccer-spain.com (If you need any help or advice on how to purchase goods through on-line shop or have a specific query about goods 
          that are not listed on the website)
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QUOTE(lit_ching @ Sep 3 2009, 11:15 AM)
You have better experience than me smile.gif , i have tried before but i lose the disputes. Forgot one thing, if you send the item to USA, you could track the item directly by using the existing tracking code at their USPS website. The details is quite comprehensive compare to we track it at our Pos Malaysia one.

For pos daftar, the only receipt that i have is a chop on the barcode stub, not really useful when i provided it to PayPal, sigh. They told me the proof are not good enough. I then need to get a form from Pos Malaysia to submit it for investigation, they took about 6 month for this process compensation. Somemore, the destination country that you ship to might not even got the tracking code you have. That is why i reckon EMS is safer when dispute arise, at least you have more comprehensive information.

Cheers!
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You should have a receipt from pos malaysia if you use pos daftar. You have to request it so there is proof that you have paid for the services.

By default they won't give any receipt, must insist on having one first.


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QUOTE(hoongfai @ Sep 3 2009, 12:03 PM)
can i use my Public Bank Visa Electron debit card buy from kitbag or MU.com?
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You have to contact Public Bank and ask them...
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Yup that is player issue, but never worn by United last 2 seasons...
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QUOTE(ckimy @ Sep 3 2009, 03:19 PM)
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never worn by United o?

how about those reserve game / youth game?  shocking.gif
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Not sure if it was worn by the reserves/youth game. But definitely never worn by the first team in all competitions
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Sep 6 2009, 08:05 PM)
anyone here ever buy old skol kit from toffs?
how it quality, is it real old skol or they just made new one
how about "number monogram character", how it look like, i cant find any "monogram" font in Word and internet,btw i just interested to grab this http://www.toffs.com/invt/4006

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The quality is good.. the material is wool like and a bit thick.

They made new one.. not old skool. But design is old skool.

Highly recommended to buy authorized retro repro kits from them.
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QUOTE(jason07 @ Sep 5 2009, 10:50 PM)
Sorry off topic..this regarding manchester unite polo shirt

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I want to ask does kl sell this polo shirt??

how much is it in malaysia??

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Yes, I saw it being sold at al-ikhsan at The Curve, Damansara. Got all sizes even up to XXL.

RM149.90

QUOTE(hedonkop @ Sep 6 2009, 03:24 PM)
Anyone know when is the Liverpool sponsorless away jersey will arrive at MALAYSIA?
Last time, asked someone at Al-Ikhsan, he said that maybe around december.
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Not sure if al-ikhsan will bring in..

First, the sponsorless ones are player spec jerseys. It has 'FORMOTION' instead of climacool on the bottom of the jersey and is meant for players.

Adidas instead of nike sold these player spec jerseys that are more expensive than the normal replica ones.

So the price might be more expensive and I doubt they will bring in. But who knows.

QUOTE(ic3rock @ Sep 6 2009, 09:39 PM)
Then u know what the price? I just check for Arsenal 1, look same as ManUtd just change to Arsenal logo. Think will launch soon,  rclxms.gif
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RM149.90

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