Haha.. No problem. Now I feel like an old man already... hehe..

Argentina's home jersey clashes with teams wearing white (England, Germany etc etc) and also light blue (Uruguay).

Yup, it was worn during the recent Davis Cup victory (Spain won 5-0 against Czech Rep.):



I think each player wore the tennis shirt based on who they were sponsored. Rafael Nadal wore a nike shirt:





This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Dec 7 2009, 12:11 PM

Only the man united home adult men is made in indonesia.

Other jerseys.. man utd away adult men and boys size, man united goalkeeper kits and even the man united home boys size are made in thailand.

Nothing to worry about. Yes, it is suppose to be made in thailand.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Dec 8 2009, 02:07 PM

Jerseyman needs to answer some questions raised in the previously closed "Beware of FAKE jersey.., ..when you buy it in sports store! (Discussion)" thread...

Here we go..

There are boys and girls size jerseys my friend...

There are also mens and ladies size jerseys as well...

Who said boys jerseys don't have replica type jerseys.. anyway I think this question was sent previously when you were concerned if man utd 09/10 home boys size jersey is made in thailand or not..

Mana ada jersey ikut grade... Mana ada shoes ikut grade.

Pandai2 je ko ni.

There are no grades in jerseys.. There are only:

1. Player issue jerseys - Jerseys that are specified and produced for players to be worn on the field. They have some unique features that separate the ones sold at sports stores (known as replica jerseys)...

For nike jerseys: They have no washing tags inside but printed washing instructions, some have PU printed nike swoosh and club crest, heated bonded seams, no NikeFIT embroidery on the front (below) the jersey

For adidas jerseys: They have 'FORMOTION' printed instead of 'CLIMACOOL' on the front (below) the jersey and there is a new TECHFIT feature that is tight fitting, heated bonded seams, PU printed 3 stripes near the sleeves/shoulders

2. Replica version jerseys - Jerseys that are produced to be sold to public. It is almost 100% similar to the ones worn actually by the players on the pitch. These are the ones being sold massively at sports stores and online stores.

For nike jerseys: They have washing tags inside the jersey, NikeFIT stitched on the front (below) the jersey

For adidas jerseys: They have 'CLIMACOOL' printed on the front (below) the jersey

3. Drop down (kick off) jerseys - These are 'budget' wise jerseys made sometimes by nike or adidas meant for fans who want to support a certain team without the requirement to buy the official replica jersey.

Adidas sometimes produces the simple round collar jersey with 3 stripes on the sleeves and mimics the FA/club crest and design of the replica jersey.

Nike sometimes produces the kick off and drop down version of some teams but they are frequently available for FC Barcelona..

Will talk more about this later...

Anyway.. The shoes you see at Al-Ikhsan, each football boot has 3 levels of production. We have the High end, mid range and low end. Example:

Adidas F50 is the high end tunit boot. It has a mid range version called F30 that almost looks like F50 but removed some features. Then we have another low end version called F10, looks the same but missing a lot of features (cannot tunit or mod the insole and studs, etc etc)..

Nike also same.. Other brands same...

So what you said previously... is rubbish.

What you saw is the Nike Man United 09/10 kick off or drop down version. It is 100% authentic and meant for fans who want to buy the official authentic shirt that mimics the player worn jerseys but is cheaper and budget wise..

Ok.. for you guys.. here are the photos of the Man Utd 09/10 kick off jersey that costs RM149 only:


And by the way, there is no NikeFIT embroidered on the front (bottom part) of the jersey, unlike the authentic replica version.

Hope this clears the doubt of you guys.. When you see something like this in Al-Ikhsan, most of you guys always think that this could be a fake jersey.. haih!

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Dec 8 2009, 06:51 PM

Question is too subjective to answer. Why not, if you are interested to buy a jersey online.. ask us to check it for you. Or.. to be safe, buy at al-ikhsan, real one or at adidas/nike boutique stores to be safe.

To be host, best is to wait when the official player list is announced. Who knows if a star player might miss the world cup because of (god forbid) injuries?

Or, you can still buy them and apply them. If the player doesn't make it or he changes squad number, just apply the World Cup Qualification Patch on the sleeves lah. Or let the sleeves be empty.

It is up to you.

Ok, a forumer in this forum asked me to share some good information with you guys... Which I think I should too.. because it has been a while since I've seen this plastic type EPL Champions 2002-2003 patches..

I've seen this patches before, long time ago.. Well. jerseyman has photographic memory so these kind of things always sticks in my head.. hehe.. So one of our forum members asked me if this patch is authentic or not:

The answer is: Yes.

This patch was once sold at Man United's Megastore near Old Trafford Stadium. Back in the past, there were so many manufacturers of namesets and patches, not all were produced by Chris Kay Ltd. But anyway, previously a company known as Metro Sports (now known as SportingID) won the contract to supply these kind of plastic EPL patches from 2002 to 2004.

There was another kind of plastic EPL patch that was supplied by Metro Sports (before it was stopped in 2004) which is the normal 2004-2007 EPL patches:

And also the 1997-2002 normal EPL patches:

Because Metro Sports started to supply them from 2002-2004.

Metro sports later became Sporting ID after it's parenting company (ITW Graphics) merged with the previous company that produced the official replica and player sized lextra typed EPL patches/numbers, which is Chris Kay Ltd. Remember the lextra namesets and patches that had 'Lextra' printed all over the plastic film? That was Chris Kay's work. And then later the namesets/patches had blank empty plastic films? That's SportingID's work. And now SportingID has rebranded and introduced a new technology called SensCilia (that has no plastic film and has watermark features on the 3D printing).

Metro sports too were awarded a 1 year contract to supply the EPL patches and namesets (PU type) for United's jerseys for the 2000-2001 season. Which is why, if you look at the player's jersey for season 2000-2001, they wore this kind of patches:


And they used plastic typed EPL NNs.. and they were all player sized as well.. Weird.

But the replica ones sold at stores by Chris Kay were the special Champions 1999-2000 with 'THE MILLENIUM SEASON' written on it as well (and it's lextra material):


Anyway, these plastic patches supplied by Metro Sports were then scrapped for replica sized Lextra patches in 2004. Reason was because the corners of the plastic patches were very easy to lift and very sharp so they were scrapped. They weren't easy to print also and you had to use a rubber pad when applying them to stop them melting.

So... If you guys tumble with a retro jersey from the season 2002-2003 and 2003-2004, don't worry if you see this kind of EPL patches.. It's not fake..

And another useful info about the Champions 2002-2003 patches, is that there were 2 sizes of this patches.. replica and player issue:


*Credits to lit_ching for the original photos.

Prior to this (Champions 1992-1993 to Champions 2001-2002) where the FA premier logo is plain without any 'Barclaycard' or 'Barclays' sponsorship, there was only one size for the lextra Champions patch.. which is player size. I've seen the Champions 2003-2004 (worn by Arsenal) and Champions 2004-2005 & Champions 2005-2006 (worn by Chelsea) that is replica size being sold at Al-Ikhsan and Real One.. And even the new designed EPL champions patches (06/07 Champions, 07/08 Champions and 08/09 Champions) has replica or player sizes.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Dec 9 2009, 12:29 AM

OK, I will explain again what is Nike Kick Off jersey.. If you guys still don't understand, god help us all.

As I said earlier, Nike produced some jerseys known as Kick Off jerseys. These kick off jerseys are meant for supporters or fans who want to buy authentic nike products or jerseys that mimics the replica jersey. It is almost 100% same but it has differences which differ from one to another. The kick off version might not have the same material used, different design of collars, no NikeFIT, etc etc.. And they are priced cheaper (RM149) and that is the purpose.. To be cheap and still authentic.

Malaysia last time had the kick off jersey. The home replica jersey vs the home kick off jersey.. Look at the photos below to see the differences:

Looks almost the same right? But price wise, different. The Malaysia kick off home jersey costs RM149 while the home replica costs RM259. Would you consider buying the kick off jersey if you got tight budget?

Ok, so this season, United and Barca's home jersey has kick off versions being sold at al-ikhsan and nike boutique store. Here's a website selling the barcelona kick off version:

Source: http://www.soccerbox.com/internationalteam...-off-shirt.html

Read what it says in the website above:



The same Barca Home 09-10 kick off jersey shown above is also being sold at Al-Ikhsan and Nike Boutique stores.. It's Made in China, has the normal tag near the collars (not the PU printed like normal) and is RM149 as well....

Here's an ebay seller selling the 2008-2009 Barcelona Away Kick Off Jersey:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BARCELONA-Nike-Kick-...emZ380179915420

Compare the photo of the Kick Off Jersey vs The Replica version:

Barcelona seem to have loads of Kick Off version being sold. Man United rarely have them, there was no kick off version (as far as I know) for last season's home jersey.. I could be wrong though.. But they are rare for United. Even for other teams like Inter, Juve and Arsenal. But there were once and while kick off versions for other teams as well.. maybe not easily found here locally.

Hope you guys understand now...

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Dec 9 2009, 01:24 AM

Yes that is the real deal.. I saw the same shirt from a good source.. but not this photo.. Actually this photo is taken from one of my friend's photobucket.. I don't know if he realizes this... it's famous now.

Will do...

Al-Ikhsan only sells what nike brings in.. It depends on what is supplied by Nike Sales (M) Sdn. Bhd.

There could be loads of kick off versions of other teams produced, but somehow nike might not be bringing it in..

For example, the 2006-2007 season, there were like almost a lot of kick off versions for almost all nike sponsored teams:


You can compare them with the same replica jerseys from the same season (06-07). Anyway I remember the Man Utd, Arsenal and Inter ones were once sold at nike stores previously.. They were cheap in quality and were Made in Thailand. I remember that RSH store even sold the Arsenal kick off jersey PLUS the Fly Emirates Sponsors on the front of it.

No problem. This is why we have this thread in LYN. Glad to help.

I would advice if you hide it in a spoiler..

Anyway for you guys who want to buy authentic climacool version of the current liverpool home and away sponsorless (without carlsberg sponsors), all Al-Ikhsan branches in Malaysia are now selling it... Price is still same like normal replica, RM259.

Here are some sneak photos I took when I visited Al-Ikhsan's store at Batu Pahat:


So there is no excuse of buying fake jerseys anymore.. hehe..

Then you must be very thin.. Those kits are super tight and small... even the XL one is very small..

Yes, that is the one that I saw. In fact, the leak photos shown at footballshirtculture originated from a friend of mine in Indonesia... where they make the england home kit previously..


Well.. you're a bit too late to look for it now because it is almost sold out at almost all nike boutique stores and al-ikhsan..

I tried to look for it as well at stores in Pertama Kompleks. Out of stock as well...

That is Inter's 07/08 away jersey, which........... is also their Centenary jersey.

The reason why they wore that jersey is because as a special ending to Inter's centenary year. They have planned to wear this Centenary kit for the Atalanta game because this is their last chance to wear it (at their away game) at the end of 2009 (which is their centenary year). And they are in fact selling again the centenary kit at Inter's online store. You can check for yourself here: http://store.inter.it/



Tak percaya? You can read all about it here: http://inter.theoffside.com/team-news/geno...redemption.html



I think AC Milan did this last time during their Centenary year..

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Dec 14 2009, 07:06 PM

Try Nike Hytex Studio at Sunway Piramid. Last time I saw a few left selling there

As what chcher said, the shipping is damn expensive..

If you really want to buy something that is no longer available at other sites, then you can order it from them.

Not only that, Real One store in BB Plaza is also selling them..

They are letting go the Liverpool Home for RM200 (if not mistaken). Ask kak zaitun for the special price.

All European clubs and International National teams use european sizing.

For umbro jerseys.. they try to be too informative by including asian sizing as well. Some brands like nike produce plain jerseys for asian market that genuinely use asian sizing.

Ignore the asian sizing. Always refer to what size you normally wear for authentic replica jerseys.. Even the fake ones are not accurate.

Ask the seller the measurement of the jersey's chest. Ask him to measure from armpit to armpit.

Rules of the sizing:

46-48 inches = XXL
44-46 inches = XL
42-44 inches = L
39-41 inches = M
36-38 inches = S

Or... for the same jersey, if you can find it being sold at local stores.. go and test wear it.. The shop owner would allow you to do this.

Or.. if you normally buy jerseys and see what size you wear.

Not necessary.

Just ignore the asian sizing.

Nope

To all jersey collectors and LYN members. I would like to wish Merry Christmas and Happy New Year... I am currently at Jakarta and will be back at Malaysia next monday.

Hi.

Code 10 means that they are in the process of verifying your credit card with your bank.

Nothing to worry about.

I've already reminded you guys to try to reduce the total price below RM400 and below 1kg.

2 thirts and 3 jerseys are more than 1 kg already...

This could be the reason why the customs were so interested with your items.

I don't think nimrod2 is a trouble maker. What he posted makes sense.

Dude.. I don't understand what are you saying here... Maybe your english is hard for me to understand.

And no club flaming here. Or else we don't want people like you here.

Thanks for highlighting and appreciating the rules of the thread...

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jan 4 2010, 06:29 PM

I've written a DIY guide at my-fjc forum on how to apply the delicate retro namesets from Wiggy Sports (www.wiggysports.co.uk). They are a challenge to apply and some employees at al-ikhsan might refuse to apply them for you because of it's nature (very delicate and hard to apply, and also the glue is not so strong).

Enjoy:

How to apply the delicate retro namesets from Wiggy Sports (www.wiggysports.co.uk)

Guys...

I know that most of you guys are very familiar with the retro namesets supplied by Wiggy Sports (www.wiggysports.co.uk). They are well known to be very delicate and are very hard to apply. It also does not have a very solid glue as well... Sometimes they can be very fragile, hard to handle and is a bit troublesome to apply. Reason is because the letters and numbers are supplied loosely (not bonded onto a plastic film like the ones supplied by some sellers from Hong Kong).

Due to the nature of the retro namesets from Wiggy, some workers at some stores in Malaysia like Al-Ikhsan decline to apply them for some customers. I understand this because it is very tedious and tricky to apply them...

But you can actually DIY (do it yourself) and apply them properly and correctly.. It's not that hard if you know how to.

Recently I was asked by a good friend of mine (Keith) to apply 2 retro namesets on his jerseys (Man United 2000-2002 home and Man United UCL 2 Star). It is a challenge that I am willing to take, although it's been a while since I've applied the retro namesets from wiggy... So while doing so, I took some photos and wrote a simple guide for those who want to know the easiest way to apply retro namesets from wiggy (and also to ensure that the namesets bond strongly as well).

Here we go......

1. To apply the Wiggy namesets.. the best way is to not use the masking tape... instead.. you have to put the jersey on top of the ironing board and then later arrange them...

Since the ironing board has 2 sides, one is the front end or narrow point and another is the back end or square shape point (where normally you put your iron on), we will insert the jersey on the back end (the opposite way or backwards):


Reason? So that you will provide maximum coverage area between the ironing board and the jersey's surface. Make sense right? More coverage, more space to arrange the loose wiggy letters with it's outline later..

*Ignore the looks of my trusted ironing board.. The stains you see are not blood, but some colours that bleeded out from some jerseys I ironed.. A lot of red huh? Not surprising since I am a fan of a team that wears red a lot... hihi..

2. Next step is to arrange the letters first..

For the delicate letters, the ones that are a headache and nightmare to apply are the ones with those thin outlines.. How worst could it get if the ones that we are going to apply are the umbro styled letters for the Man United UCL 2 star jersey....

Normally, all letters are pre-arranged according to it's order inside a small square plastic packet. For example, in a plastic packet that contains the name 'BECKHAM', the first letter on top will be the letter 'B', then 'E', then 'C' and so on...



Now... how to remove the delicate letters with it's outline safely from it's plastic packet? The trick here is to use the plastic paper cover located beneath each letter. If you remove the letters directly using your fingers, trust me.. you will make the soft soggy outlines surrounding the letters bended or folded... And it is tedious to reshape it back later.

So... use the paper cover beneath the letters to lift out the letters gently from it's plastic packet:



So you are lifting the letters from it's packet using the paper cover.

Once the letter and it's paper cover is completely outside the plastic packet and onto the jersey's surface.. you will then need to gently lift out the paper cover away from the letter.. leaving the letter and it's outline layer completely on top of your jersey's surface:



If you follow the steps shown above (using the paper cover to lift the letters+outline on to the jersey and then to lift out the paper cover), you will ensure that the loose and delicate letters with it's outline are not folded, bended and are placed solidly on top of your jersey. I think the staff and workers at Al-Ikhsan or Real One should follow this method.

OK.. once you've manage to move out all the letters with it's outline intact from the plastic packet on to the jersey's surface.. you have to remove out the small delicate outline shapes that are loose and located inside the letters..

Some letters like A, B, D, O, P, Q, R have that extra outline layer that is located inside the letters. These outline layers are delicate and can accidentally move if you apply them one shot. My advice is to remove them (separate them) first....

For example, for the nameset BECKHAM. the letters A and B have these small loose inside outlines so we remove them out first:



To be continued...

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jan 8 2010, 11:09 AM