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post Nov 16 2009, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(ckimy @ Nov 16 2009, 03:14 PM)
i used before, it took around 2 weeks to reach my home....

cannot be tracked, but sometime they will use UPS as well, depend on ur luck....

but, normally using Royal Mail Standard Delivery....

i jus placed an order from kitbag by using Standard Delivery just now, waiting to be despatched tongue.gif
what kind of cheap item?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Nov 16 2009, 06:32 PM)
wow what u bought this time tongue.gif
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Just one of the items in the sales section at kitbag. Just worth trying to see how long it takes.. quite long, more than a week.

QUOTE(teckhooi @ Nov 16 2009, 07:08 PM)
want to share with u

u can using normal postage in kitbag.

coz they using UPS also. which can track in UPS webpage
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Normal postage in kitbag does not necessary use UPS. In fact they use normal airmail only.

QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Nov 16 2009, 07:16 PM)
hey guys wanna ask abit.

http://www.soccerauthentics.com

anyone got experience buying from this site before?
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That is the official website of the ebay seller soccerauthentics. You should have check the first page and know who soccerauthentics is.

QUOTE(akkmutd0711 @ Nov 16 2009, 07:58 PM)
He's using registered mail so no worries
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Who? Standard delivery in kitbag? If kitbag, nope.. it's not registered mail.

QUOTE(Masta-Killa @ Nov 16 2009, 07:58 PM)
so lot info in this thread
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Stay away from fake jerseys.. shooshhhh....
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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Nov 17 2009, 09:21 AM)
has anyone bought retro NNs from this seller ebay seller rabbit_on_the_moon?
He is from thailand and I wonder if his NNs are DIYs?
Is it of good quality, looking to buy old adidas NN for man united's blue adidas leaf jersey from 1990.
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His NNs are ALL DIYs.

Quality wise.......... ok la. So and so... Not so super duper great since most are PU type. There are some velvets but I've never tested the quality of the velvet ones.

Bare in mind if you want to put NNs on the last blue adidas away jersey... The NNs are suppose to be blue not black. Good luck in finding that.

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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Nov 17 2009, 09:41 AM)
how bout this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-Blue-Numbering-19...=item19b44a7fdf

is this the correct color jerseyman?
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It's not 100% accurate in my opinion because the blue number that was used is a bright blue...

The number that is sold in ebay is navy blue. Maybe I'm wrong but it looks that way.

You can see the actual photo below:

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But still.. nothing wrong if you want to try..
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QUOTE(rebel_azri @ Nov 17 2009, 07:26 PM)
hey guys.just want to ask.where can i get m'sian jersey size youth?do nike produce size youth for m'sian jersey?
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Malaysia jerseys are almost out of stock. And I can't remember if there were any kids size...
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In the past, aku-altra (http://www.akualtra.com/) used to sell a lot of Malaysian League jerseys..... including Kelantan.

But their website is under maintenance so... not sure if they can still help you or not.


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The defects from expired PU NNs are normal... that's what will happen...

QUOTE(Catrix @ Nov 18 2009, 11:33 AM)
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Tis jersey r stay some glue , even i use detergent & brush oso cant remove it ....  sad.gif
Everybody got any good idea to remove that glue ? sad.gif

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QUOTE(vreis @ Nov 18 2009, 02:25 PM)
Should be open better cos mine crack when hung in cupboard. But then again, mine is from year 03 & my room hot & humid. I believe that someone here mentioned that it is also not advisable to put in those transparent cover as it may affect the PU NNs as well.
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Yup.

If you have jerseys with PU type NNs or sponsors, it is wise to not hang them inside closed cupboard because the humidity and heat trapped inside the cupboard will effect them. They might crack or melt.

Same goes if you use those plastic type transparent cover.. it will also cause the PU type sponsors/nameset to stick and bond together because of heat/humidity. Which is why, if you notice... if you buy adidas jerseys that comes brand new with tags (BNWT) and wrapped inside the plastic bag, there will be an extra paper layer that covers the PU type sponsors. Those who normally buy adidas jerseys online from kitbag or subside will notice this, when the package arrives from UK.

The best thing to do is hang the jerseys openly using a naked clothing hanger.. You can look for them at ikea or other stores.




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Hihi..

Last night I DIYed applying my man utd 07-09 PU UCL nameset..

Later I will share with you guys and at my-fjc the steps I took to apply it. Very tricky but worth the risk taken......................
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This guide is intended for newbies who want to take the risk of applying themselves the PU namesets...

Before I proceed with this guide, please bare in mind the risks of doing it... it is up to you and if you decide to take the risk, good luck... But if you screw up, I won't be held responsible........

Of course, the best way to apply a PU nameset is to send it to the local store who has the bulky printing machine and ask them to iron press for you. They will charge you if you do it locally, but what if you don't have the luxury of having the option to go for the bulky printing machine? People like wongkwp, pyroboy1911 who lives abroad (at US and Australia respectively) and has no option but to DIY apply it themselves.

Again before you proceed.. please ensure that the PU nameset is new and not too old (more than 3-4 years) because if it's too old, there is a risk that the PU nameset's glue has almost expired and it will be a pain in the ass to apply it yourself. Even if you use the heat press printing machine, it might still be tedious and disastrous.... There are also cases when they couldn't peel off the old PU nameset's plastic film from the applied nameset... So bare in mind the age of the PU nameset first before you apply it.

I had been planning to do this all along........... so when I had the chance to do it, I took the risk.

Tools to be used: masking tape, set square rulers, a plain cloth (I used my wife's tudung or veil), iron and ironing board

So we will start printing the name of the player first, then we print the number of the player.

Part 1: Applying the name

1. Before you proceed, iron your jersey first to ensure that the surface is smooth and not crumpled.. First, align the name of the player accordingly. Then put some masking tape so that the name doesn't move from it's intended aligned position on the jersey:

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Arrange and align the name of the player and then place some masking tape


2. Move the jersey on top of your ironing board. Then cover it with a plain cloth:

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Cover the nameset with a plain cloth


3. Set your iron to 2 or 2.5 dots (medium heat). You can try setting it to 3 dots since we use a plain cloth to cover the nameset, I used 3 dots... But to be safe, use 2 dots. Then iron press firmly for 5 seconds on top of the nameset that is covered with the cloth. But please be careful not to iron on top of the masking tape. This is why you should use a plain white cloth that is transparent:

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Iron press the nameset with the plain cloth to protect your jersey. Don't iron on the masking tape!


For PU namesets, a good amount of pressure and heat is really essential. Without the plain cloth, if you do it directly, you risk of ruining the jersey's surface and leave an ugly mark on top of it.. trust me, it's best to have the plain cloth to protect it..

4. Then, remove the plain cloth and remove the masking tape... At this moment, don't peel off the nameset's plastic film yet:

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Peel off the masking tape...


5. After removing the masking tape (only), cover back the nameset with the plain cloth and iron press firmly again (5 seconds). When ironing, you can slightly press it... Remember, pressure+heat is vital for PU namesets. This time, with no masking tape, you can freely iron it with no worries of accidentally ironing the masking tape:

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Iron press firmly the nameset again with the plain cloth


6. Once you've covered all the areas on ironing the nameset, remove the plain cloth. Then, fan or flap your jersey so that you help remove the heat from the previous ironing:

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Flap or fan your jersey to remove the heat from previous ironing


* Bare in mind, this should be done IF the nameset is cold peel. Most nameset nowadays are cold peel, where the PU nameset must be cold and then only you can peel off the plastic film. There are some rare namesets that are hot peel (example, some of Real Madrid's nameset). If it's hot peel, after you've iron the nameset, you must peel off the film straight away while it's hot (skip the step of fanning or flapping your jersey to remove the heat). So if you buy the nameset from an ebay seller for example, it's best to check if the nameset is hot or cold peel. But most are cold peel nowadays...

7. Since the nameset I'm applying here is cold peel, I have to ensure it's already cold before I can peel off the plastic film. Use your hands to feel the nameset's film and ensure that it is cold before you start peeling it off:

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Feel the plastic film first before you peel it..


8. You can physically look at the plastic film of the nameset and see that there is some gap surrounding the letters outline as shown below:

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You can see the gap around the letter's outline


This is another indicator that the nameset has bonded on the jersey's surface.

9. This is the tricky part.... Gently, carefully, patiently, slowly... peel off the plastic film:

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Carefully.. peel off the plastic film


*To peel off the film, one good tip from jerseyman is to start from the sharp edges or corners of the letters.. Make that your starting point when you want to peel off the film.....

10. Finally if you suceed peeling off the plastic film, the nameset should have already bonded on to the jersey's surface:

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Part 1 completed...


But the nameset is not 100% bonded yet.. Why? Jerseyman will explain later..

To be continued.......

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Continued..

Now let's move the 2nd part of this activity....

Part 2: Applying the number

1. First, align the number of the player accordingly. Use the previously applied name as your guide of reference:

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Align and arrange the numbers on top of the jersey


As shown above, jerseyman used his set square rulers as a guide to ensure that the numbers are aligned and positioned correctly....

2. Then put some masking tape so that the numbers doesn't move from it's intended aligned position on the jersey:

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Place some masking tape on the plastic film to ensure it doesn't move


The placement of the masking tape is up to you to choose.. As long as the nameset that you've arranged previously doesn't move from it's intended position. The placement is important to ensure that it is easy for you to iron on it later (don't put too many masking tapes or else it will be harder to avoid when ironing for the first time).

3. Move the jersey to the ironing board:

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Ready to be ironed!


4. Then cover it with a plain cloth:

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Cover the nameset with a plain cloth


5. Iron press firmly for 5 seconds on top of the nameset that is covered with the cloth. But please be careful not to iron on top of the masking tape. This is why you should use a plain white cloth that is transparent:

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Iron press the nameset with the plain cloth to protect your jersey. Don't iron on the masking tape!


6. Then, remove the plain cloth and peel off the masking tape... At this moment, don't peel off the nameset's plastic film yet, only the masking tape:

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Peel off the masking tape only


7. After removing the masking tape (only), cover back the nameset with the plain cloth and iron press firmly again (5 seconds) :

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Iron press firmly the nameset again with the plain cloth


8. Once you've covered all the areas on ironing the nameset, remove the plain cloth. Then, fan or flap your jersey so that you help remove the heat from the previous ironing (since this is a cold peel type PU nameset):

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Flap or fan your jersey to remove the heat from previous ironing


9. Again... since the nameset I'm applying here is cold peel, I have to ensure it's already cold before I can peel off the plastic film. Use your hands to feel the nameset's film and ensure that it is cold before you start peeling it off:

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Feel the plastic film first before you peel it..


10. Here comes the tricky part again.... Gently, carefully, patiently, slowly... peel off the plastic film:

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Carefully.. peel off the plastic film


To be continued...

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Continued..

11. OK... what happens if during the peeling off process... you see that the PU nameset is not 100% bonded? As shown below:

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Oh no!


No worries, if.. during the process of peeling off the nameset's plastic film, you happen to notice something like shown above, re-iron again the nameset. Repeat steps 5-10 as shown above... Ensure that there's equivalent amount of coverage and pressure during ironing..

If you manage to re-apply the ironing again correctly, it should be ok and you can continue to peel the plastic film off:

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Carefully.. peel off the plastic film


Then you have completed Part 1 and Part 2... Wait, is it done yet? Not yet...

To ensure that your PU nameset is 100% solidly bonded to the jersey's surface.. the thin PU nameset's surface MUST mimic the original surface of the plain jersey.. If the jersey has some unique patterns on the surface, it must also appear on the nameset..

To do this (ensure 100% solid bonding of PU nameset), you have to do Part 3.. which is to ensure the solid bonding of the PU nameset:

Part 3: Ensuring the solid bonding of PU nameset

The key here is to ensure that the PU nameset's surface is not plain and solid, but it must mimic the original surface of the jersey. Here are the steps:

1. Flip your jersey inside out (terbalikkan it first) and put it on top of the ironing board:

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Flip your jersey inside out and put it on the ironing board


2. Iron press firmly for 5 seconds on the areas where the PU nameset sits:

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Another way you can do is, re-use the plastic film that you peeled off previously and then place the film on top of the nameset and then iron on top of it ... This is a risky move that I won't recommend, but it works... Ensure that you terbalikkan or flip the plastic film so that the remains from the previously removed nameset doesn't overlap the PU namesets and leave marks on it..

But jerseyman recommends step 2 (flip it inside out first), to be more safer...

3. The key here, as spoken earlier is to ensure that the PU nameset's surface is not plain solid, but it must mimic the original surface of the jersey. As I am using the Man United 2007-2009 home jersey, the back of the jersey's surface has this unique holes.. The PU nameset's surface MUST mimic the holes of the jersey's surface to ensure that it has 100% bonded solidly...

Here is the comparisons between a number that was ironed pressed beneath it previous (using step 2) and a number that has not yet been done so:

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Comparisons between the PU numbers that was iron press beneath it (left)
and not iron press beneath it yet (right)


To see clearer, here are the closeup photos of the applied PU namesets that has been solidly applied on to the jersey (iron pressed while the jersey was flipped inside out or terbalikkan first):

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Look at the surface of the PU letters.. You can see the matching holes of the original jersey's surface

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Look at the surface of the PU numbers.. You can see the matching holes of the original jersey's surface


Finally.......... after completing Part 3, your work is done.. Wallaaaa...

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Final results........... sweet!


And I also completed the jersey with applying the UCL starball and CWC patch:

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Conclusion....

The pros and cons of applying lextra/velvet namesets against PU namesets:

Lextra/velvet namesets:
Pros - Less risky
Cons - A bit tedious when you have to arrange them one by one

PU namesets:
Pros - Less tedious where the letters are already pre-arranged
Cons - A bit risky

If you're afraid to DIY apply the namesets yourself, you can always send it to a shop and have the experts do it for you. But if you are a daredevil and willing to take risk.... why not. But bare in mind the risks again...................... good luck!

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QUOTE(redyap @ Nov 26 2009, 10:49 AM)
let me try tonight.... RM06/07 with B23.....
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Bro.. Read my guide again ya.. Remember to check if it's Cold or Hot Peel...

Do you know what kind of nameset is it for the Real Madrid 2006/2007 nameset? Please check first. I know what type it is.. I just want to check you out first..

QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Nov 26 2009, 10:52 AM)
wah good luck. hope it goes well.
and do share the pics + results with us!

btw jerseyman, i have that exact same NN that i havent applied.
gonna put it on the new away kit i think smile.gif
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Good luck mate.. It's fun to DIY. Just be careful.

QUOTE(teckhooi @ Nov 26 2009, 10:53 AM)
Ordered Done For KitBag

6 Jersey One Shot.
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How much is the total price? You're using UPS?

If yes, there is a chance you will be taxed later.


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QUOTE(redyap @ Nov 26 2009, 11:06 AM)
If not mistaken, there is Hot Peel NNs, right jerseyman??  icon_rolleyes.gif
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For Real Madrid 06/07 nameset.. It's Hot Peel:

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credits: wongkwp

Be extra careful ya..

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QUOTE(redyap @ Nov 26 2009, 11:41 AM)
yup..i know that the NNs of RM B23 is Hot Peel...
So, think that it might big different of DIY for Cold and Hot peel.....

tx for your info jerseyman.... i will do aware and extra carefull on it....
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Methods are the same, except that when it's still hot, you have to peel off the film immediately...

QUOTE(teckhooi @ Nov 26 2009, 11:47 AM)
Total Is 126.63
Express Shipping.

Coz I At SG.
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One question.. Why you bought so many? You want to complete your collection or re-sell it later?

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QUOTE(redyap @ Nov 27 2009, 12:11 AM)
My 1st DIY have done perfectly......thank to the guidance of jerseyman....

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Great job.. Glad to see someone benefited from the simple guide I created... So you followed exactly what I said? Iron pressed firmly with cloth covered? Flipped the jersey inside out and iron press it? Peeled off the plastic film while it's still hot?



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QUOTE(akkmutd0711 @ Nov 27 2009, 11:39 AM)
Nice guide, got one gold 06/07 ucl nns ROONEY 8 but no jersey to apply... DUH  sweat.gif
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Be careful with the gold 06/07 ucl NNs.. the glue by now is slightly expired.. You won't possibly get a clean print if you try now. The surface will not look 100% smooth.

QUOTE(redyap @ Nov 27 2009, 11:20 AM)
While during DIY, i did extra step where ~
Before peeling off the plastic cover, i flipped the jersey inside out and ironed the area which NNs applied at in order to let the NNs bond strong at jersey..

So, jerseyman kindly comment......
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That is a risky move, when the plastic film is still there... You might risk of making the plastic film bond with the PU nameset and later making it harder for you to peel it off the jersey.... It's a bit risky, sometimes it's ok, sometime not. Flip the jersey inside out and iron press later after you've peeled off the plastic film. That is safer.

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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Nov 30 2009, 01:35 PM)
yea i know. but i scare beckham not getting number 7 ma.scare later not nice d
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Why are you scared about beckham not getting 7. This is a 2007-2009 away kit maa.. not the new upcoming away kit to be worn in world cup 2010.

Becks DID wore 7 when wearing this jersey...
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QUOTE(ghoster @ Nov 30 2009, 02:04 PM)
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my first attempt DIY patch tongue.gif

bought my '3 Solo Per Te' patch from soccer supreme, excellent seller btw.
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here's the result biggrin.gif
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thanks for the awesome tutorial and guide jerseyman!
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No problem mate..

The nameset for ac milan are all made by an italian company called stillscreen... They are very easy to apply compared to the sportingID PU ones...

QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Nov 30 2009, 02:06 PM)
no la. this is away 08/10. is mentioned in kitbag.com. so they will be wearing for world cup. no?
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What I meant was the 08/10 laa.. 2007/2009 because that's the period they started wearing the away kit..

QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Nov 30 2009, 02:52 PM)
but is it still consider the formal away jersey for world cup?
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Nope. That was suppose to be England's away kit for Euro 2008. I've already seen the new upcoming england away world cup 2010. Red colour also, round neck with white cuffs on the sleeves...

QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Nov 30 2009, 03:58 PM)
Guys...i want to know how to differentiate between replica, premier & authentic jerseys? saw at kitbag..they selling England Away 2008/10 for £14.99 with free personalise..
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Mate.....

What do you mean replica, premier and authentic?

Are you worried that the england kit is fake?

There is a reason why it is super cheap (just 14.99 with free printing). This is because kitbag want's to clear out some old dead stock before they launch the new england 2010 away kit next year.

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QUOTE(odieseven @ Nov 30 2009, 09:22 PM)
Its 100% nylon. I feel that as long as its cloth like & does not burn easily, it can stick.
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Actually... the material doesn't matter, if it's polyester, nylon, lycra etc etc.. Or else, how can PU printing be possible to even the most delicate material right?

The key here is, to ensure that when you print the material.. make sure you don't overdo it and ensure that you protect the layer when printing it...

You can iron first the area where you want to print it.. ensure it's smooth and flat. Then place the PU on it, cover it with cloth and then iron press it firmly.. It should work.

QUOTE(ckimy @ Nov 30 2009, 09:49 PM)
bang, where u see the new away jersey?
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From a very reliable source. But sorry mate, I can't reveal the photos yet because it's still not yet launched yet.. Who knows it might pop up later at footballshirtculture..
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ Dec 3 2009, 01:25 PM)
so jerseyman, name n num can stick with all kind of shirt la like that??? wahh gonna go buy name n number la like that...
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Yes by theory.. as long as the material's surface is smooth and strong.

QUOTE(cavynz @ Dec 3 2009, 11:33 PM)
Argentina away also in blue colour..what if ,they face italy ? hehe,,both colour also clashed. Unless italy use their away kit as well.
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Argentina can wear their light blue + white stripe home jersey and italy wear their blue home kit. It doesn't clash..

Remember Italia 90 semi final? They both wore their home kit during the semi final.

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