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the weapon thing looks quite interesting, atleast each person has a unique weapon now thats kinda cool

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 26 2009, 11:56 PM

Alex will probably have stock, waiting for him. I dont want to preorder from P.A first since nowaday its quite easy to get games over here unlike last time .

Well if it goes wrong I will just get the Asia version first then.

As long as the game works, the FF14 beta code is not really a big deal to me

More upcoming new scan from dengeki

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Added on November 27, 2009, 9:38 pmMore incoming , Famitsu has some new scans too ,featuring giant behemoth and other wild creatures on pulse



Preserved for scans*

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 27 2009, 09:38 PM

They are rather huge amount of new scans this week, enjoy

People always tell their friends " WOW Final Fantasy XIII is so beautiful! " That is when their friends starting to get overhyped and expecting Real Life synchronous graphics and extraordinary visualization.


While I do still like to remind you this is still a game, but this is a game with Beautiful Emotion, Beautiful Characters,
and Beautiful Fantasy setting .


I actually think the CGI Lightning looks more unnatural .In the real time cutscene, Lightning looks bland and dull, but that is exactly what her character is about, it suits her .


The final fantasy is beautiful not just because they are graphically gorgeous but its the art direction, the approach on the vision on the fantasy setting. Look the overworld vision, the art work on FF XIII, FF XII, FFX , while there are indeed tons of beautiful games in this world, but there aren't many that could impress us with such enormous imagination from the game designer artist themself.

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 04:59 PM

scroll up on my previous thread for more comments


Beautiful game =/= 80%-90% cgi quality effects
Its a compound of the artwork,the game environment and the char model design, along with gameplay.


I would expect some of you are pretty new, or infact have never play any FF before .
4 years gap ,is quite typical for a normal FF franchise 's new release.


And this is what I think you should expect yourself to do when playing the game.
Throw away any meaningful definition you thought you've knew about Graphics when playing the game, perhaps thats when you will see and feel the entire new world of FF XIII

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Added on November 28, 2009, 4:52 pmI am suprised that most of you ( infact none ) have actually played the game other than watching the trailer, could come to the conclusion that the game doesnt look that great . How many of you have actually fled to the TGS 09 to actually witness the game being displayed on HD tv itself ?


I think I have read this from somewhere before , S.E have stated before the priority of FF13 project was to focus on its progress on PLAYSTATION 3 ( Alone ) and will finish them before starting to port it over 360. Not to mention the development have started way earlier before they announce it would be ported to 360.

Therefore the visualization here is most probably not affected by 360 's capability , contrary what the Sony fanboys defense have spread all over the internet.


OverHyped is the key here ,I still think the game looks better than 95% of the current games on the market.

When you tell your friend about FF13 next time, make sure you watch the keywords then

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 05:05 PM

There is absolutely no evidence where the game has been downgraded .
If someone just happened to think the game doesnt look good enough ,
its because you were getting impression that the game would look like real video-shopped movie with cheesy dialogues.



I have indeed read such Bull**** posts all over the internet before :

*game is downgraded to some extend with less texture (not true because http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxi...883918#message)
*some even exeggerate that the game looks like a Playstation 1 game and has no 1080 supports ( which is not true because we have just seen the game cover recently )



the topics are generally created by unprofessional players, Sony-Defense-Force fanboys, etc .
As an internet user you do have to sharpen your mind sometimes to shake off the cultism from these fanboys.

So far the people who have touched the game in real life, such as the staff over IGN have very positive feedbacks with the game's visual and of course in 19 days we will find out if this is true.

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 06:34 PM

For those that keeps screaming downgrade over the 360 ports,


there is no DOWNGRADE
Please read this carefully
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxi.../883918#message

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 06:28 PM

Despite of all the discussion, the game has suffer no downgrade,
the topic was obviously created by various fanboys over the internet with no conclusive evidence.


read :http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxiii---no--downgrade-/883918#message


The people who mostly 'confirmed' about the downgrade are comparing them with an older build of the game, which was seen here : http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxi.../883918#message


The critics are not professional , and I doubt Square - Enix would spend any of their time to clarify the rumor themself .




p/s: Maybe lightning's weapon is not exclusive to her afterall, it could be used by many of the other resident in cocoon.

Vanille's summon beast has a driving mode called Magick Armor ( If you played FF6 you should be familiar with this )

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 06:36 PM

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Which is exactly I was so desperately to knock this fact in the forum.
The rumor was already denied as a BullShit on the oversea forums ,
but there are still people that follow them in lowyat.

Aeiou , while I meant no offense, you need to spend time reading my post before you have gotten quite worked up .I did not specifically refer to anyone as fanboy over the forum in here. At the same times you have also mixed up quite a few things wrongly , which further confuse the audience here.

Wall of text is hard to read, I have arrange the them into points so they are more read-able


Point 1 :
The PS3 potential is limited when having games ported on itself is a fact, but you are reversing the statement now. PS3 is NOT the console that is receiving the port, it was the root console where all the development of FF13 have started.


Point 2:
Your argument have largely involved around nobody know the fact is FF13 has been using the potential of PS3 to the max . However this has nothing to do the downgrade that happens due to the 360.
Why? because we have every fact here pointing out that FF13 is looking just as good,if not better than each of its last build shown to the public


Point 3 :
I could rephrase your previous statement if you want to, if you are suggesting that they could polish the graphic more than they could have show us now, and of course this is true, there is always something better you can do. My point here remains the same, the game HAS NOT BEEN DOWNGRADED ,atleast not the Playstation 3, and there is no evidence suggesting that either . But we have every evidence here showing that the game is only looking better ,by each trailer shown to the public.



Last but not least :
As for the difference between 2 builds? Here is what is happening :

I did a quick search, and there are numerous 'thread topic' that "Suggested" the game has been downgraded due to having to portover 360 . And from what I see, the topic started have not really been professional at all .

The downgrade rumor originates from some guy, posted 2 different screenshot, from different build[I], particularly the one that was in the demo ( read , Demo ) from one of the previous build, suggesting that the one in demo has less texture . Which has then started all the havoc

However 1 of the guys just to find out the build that was shown in the demo is actually a build that is as you seen clearly in the screenshot between 2008 and 2009, the 2009 has obviously looking much better because it was closer to the final build of the actual game.

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 08:12 PM

Are you sure you aren't just making fact out?
Mind to show us the trailer ?


I would like to see where did they say ' unfair to the 360 players '
Because it has already been unfair to players since day 1, there is no Japanese version for 360 in Japan.


Therefore if they did not include the dual language into the game, it most probably has nothing to do with it being on 360 ,because Japanese version was exclusive for PS3 only in Jap =)

I dont think this is a downgrade, because regional exclusive game tend to have the same thing, none of the FF ( Except the international version ) has ever feature dual language upon their official release





This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 08:08 PM

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I do not have a 360, nor I plan to get 1 either .
But I do not see how not having dual language being 360's fault either.

their version has already been confirmed for having multiple disc,if anything by they could just add more discs for the concerns.

Its most probably having to do with Sony being insisted of having the Asia region of FF13 exclusive to PS3 itself .

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Added on November 28, 2009, 8:28 pmFamitsu has update their site with several bigger, larger, clearer screenshots we have seen on their magazine , here are the eye candy :













This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 08:29 PM

^ because it would increase the cost of production.

Have you all forgot about something, the lips sync.
If they would include Jap voice in the US ver, they would need to include the lips sync as well, that would be a lot more content . PS3 Exclusive MGS 4 did not have dual language either.


therefore the reason they did not include dual language ,lips sync is probably 1 of the major work here

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 08:39 PM

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Oh ? Are you suggesting that FF13 would feature any less cutscene or CGI ( infact FF13 probably has way more CGI than MGS 4 ) than MGS4? Wouldn't it go out of space too?


And You have just mentioned it, FF10 [International]. Not FF10 [ US / JAP ]
We have not seen any news regarding FF13 [INT] yet , so if you are patient enough you could wait for that, it might have the dual audio you want.


@razael : thanks for the video, but I did not see where did they mention' Unfair for 360 players'
All they did is saying 2 things. They said its possible on PS3, and they have no plans to do that.
But for 360 players it would have to fit into more disc . Thats it.


This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 09:52 PM

@aeiou : Its closer to the release date now, isn't it nice to have some discussion here. I typed alot of things but I am not pissed at all .

Okay I will take the chance here to explain the entire Downgrade thing. First of all when the FF 7 Advent children DVD is released, someone has got their Hand on this , and took a screenshot.

A
http://www.uffsite.net/images/news/ff13-ch...s/ff13-acc1.jpg

and compare it with

B
http://www.uffsite.net/images/news/ff13-ch...13-release1.jpg

saying that A is inferior to B, because A has less texture, and A is from the demo of the game, so they conclude that the game has been downgraded.

However, a deep research on the entire picture to find that, A from the demo is actually shown in the private mega theater inside SQ conference from year 2008, and B is the newest screenshot shown in March 2009 one of the Square Enix conference

Therefore suggesting that in the final build, they actually add in even more texture, the game looks better, and the demo shown is from an old build shown in year 2008, not year 2009.

The people are confused about this because the Demo was released earlier this year, so they assume that the demo is the final build of the game .

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Added on November 28, 2009, 9:56 pmMore screenshot from famitsu













This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 09:57 PM

to make it simple

A = Demo ( released in 2009 ,but is an old build from 2008 )
B = New trailer ( New build ,found from a trailer in 2009)


what caused the degrade rumors : people bought A, watch trailer B, comparing with A, says A has less texture ,concluding that its downgraded.

what happens actually : A and B is not the same build on the same time , B looks better than A because SE has continously upgrading the graphics. Therefore destroying the degrading rumor.



The final build having a better graphic does says alot of thing. it means :

a) The game has not not been degraded visually when its getting better n better.

b) If it has to be degraded ,it may happen without its own reason not cause of 360 ,but so far no evidence suggest this . As it could happen with any game .



@0300078 : Perhaps the international version might have what you are looking for

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 28 2009, 11:39 PM

^ that usually dont happen until the last few years at the end of the console life span.

Comparing FF12 and FF10 you will find the difference.

I stay by my stance , this is still really one of the most beautiful game out there in the market now

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Why do they release them on 360? Its simple .
On the business points of view, there are only 1 thing that could make the move , money, $$$.


Yes we do not have evidence that FF XIII has been degraded or not ,

however the game still look extremely beautiful to me ,definitely live up to the Final Fantasy title it hold, dont you agree with me =)?


While this is not a 360 vs PS3 thread, an interesting poll I read from N4G.com shows that majority of the players plan to buy FFXIII on PS3, instead of on 360