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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, FT: MNC 4-2 ARS ~ RvP, Rosicky

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post Sep 13 2009, 05:58 PM

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About the incident with Van Persie, he insisted: 'I didn't have time to pull back my foot. I feel sorry for him and I told him at the end that I was sorry.'
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post Sep 13 2009, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(kabuto rider kick @ Sep 13 2009, 05:21 PM)
thats what angered me all nite,for godsake drop Bendtner already vmad.gif i hate everytime he got the ball last nite,it was either he gave it away to City or stupidly lost it vmad.gif i really don understand why Wenger still have him playing in big game like last nite!if he want anymore chance to get better just let him play in Carling Cup until he IMPROVED! *sigh* only once Rosicky came on the pace got better,then Eduardo and Eboue we got more chances of scoring...Wenger should have use either three of them in the beginning instead of that idiot Bendtner vmad.gif
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You got it wrong here Mr. Kabuto. Bendtner is an excellent player. It was AW tactics that make him look bad. He is not a winger.I repeat he is not a winger. Why he was deployed at the flanks is still in question. He is capable enough to be a 1st team player but surely not as a winger. Furthermore, he was returning back with two goals during the international break. For Diaby I have to agree with you.He is just.... crap

Rosicky didn't start because he is still not in full fitness.You wouldn't want him to play only one game but miss the rest


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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Sep 13 2009, 05:58 PM)
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Fark la ...If i see u in my life, i will kill u mad.gif

that is intentional!!!!!!!!

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post Sep 13 2009, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Sep 13 2009, 05:58 PM)
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oh man. that is just sick.
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post Sep 13 2009, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(gummerz @ Sep 13 2009, 06:09 PM)
You got it wrong here Mr. Kabuto. Bendtner is an excellent player. It was AW tactics that make him look bad. He is not a winger.I repeat he is not a winger. Why he was deployed at the flanks is still in question. He is capable enough to be a 1st team player but surely not as a winger. Furthermore, he was returning back with two goals during the international break. For Diaby I have to agree with you.He is just.... crap

Rosicky didn't start because he is still not in full fitness.You wouldn't want him to play only one game but miss the rest
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i didnt made these statement based only on his last nite performance,but other previous matches as well,and last season too,i've been cursing him for the same reason since last season,he simply didnt improves watsoever,how long he has been with Arsenal again? *sigh* i love Arsenal and the team is all about beautiful football and i dont see that whenever Bendtner is playing,cuz he is all about crap playing...

and i know why Rosicky/Eduardo didnt start,but Eboue could have been a better choice then Bendtner no?
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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Sep 13 2009, 05:58 PM)
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What The Hell!! Now I hate Adebayor even more!!!! I really hope someone in Arsenal staff would report it to the FA. using this as evidence. and please, English FA for once back Arsenal... this can be life threatening to the player. but i guess they tak kisah when it comes to Arsenal. Damn basterd
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post Sep 13 2009, 07:01 PM

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So the FA seem unimpressed by Ade's antics and rightly so. Lets see what sort of action is taken against him.

There were calls from pundits for City to punish Ade as well. I don't think this will happen though as clearly Mark Hughes will not have the balls to do so.
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post Sep 13 2009, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Sep 13 2009, 05:55 PM)

Cesc - poor even when he get an assist. wake up fast, and realize you are the captain of the Arsenal (4)

Robin - had to be more deadly in the box. get himself in a very good position a few times but always seems to be hesitant to trigger the final blow. and, please please stop aiming for the tiang (5.5)

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About Cesc.. YES. I don't think he exerted himself enough yesterday as a captain; and to be fair, he is still a kid despite the vast amount of experience he has.

Robin is very unfortunate to miss all those chances, and I think he must have owed the goalpost in his past life. As mentioned, he was one of the few that played their hearts out yesterday, and with the scant support he got from his mates I think he actually did OK.

QUOTE(kabuto rider kick @ Sep 13 2009, 06:47 PM)
i didnt made these statement based only on his last nite performance,but other previous matches as well,and last season too,i've been cursing him for the same reason since last season,he simply didnt improves watsoever,how long he has been with Arsenal again? *sigh* i love Arsenal and the team is all about beautiful football and i dont see that whenever Bendtner is playing,cuz he is all about crap playing...
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As for Nicky "simply didn't improve whatsoever", geesh... You're not observing properly. From a lanky clumsy striker who only nods the ball, he has developed another aspect of his game which allows him to play deeper and linkup/make passes. It wasn't Nicky's best performance yesterday but it wasn't his worst game. Playing on the wing doesn't suit him either... You can't be shit if you score 2 goals consecutively for your country right?

Nicky works best when a speedy, tricky striker is playing alongside him... He marveled with Dudu and then Vela. Last night the front three were far too static and there was zero interchange and speed, that's why it didn't really work. When Tommy came on he added the much-required zippiness and immediately Robin got more of the ball.
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Saying Bendtner crap is baseless.Last season is only his 1st full season with Arsenal(correct me if i am wrong).You also didn't realize that he improves a lot towards the end of last season. He is just getting use to playing out wide. Look at the Carling cup, international or whenever he was playing as a striker he could score goals.

You want Eboue to play as a winger?See what happened during Arsenal vs Man U.He is just ineffective playing there.

And congratz to Van Persie. He just added his tally of hitting the post.Pity him.

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post Sep 13 2009, 07:12 PM

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I would like to defend Bendtner here. I think he's a promising young fella and like what gummerz said, he is playing at the wrong position. He can never play as a winger or even support striker. His best position is central striker.

I tot when AW sold Ade Bendtner would have more chances to impress fellow Gooners this season but i was surprised when AW deployed him on the flanks. I tot RvP would be playing on the flanks like what he did for Holland and Bendtner on central position like what he did for Denmark.

Clearly this didn't happen and i do not know how long AW ll realise his mistake. Or maybe he has some other ideas where by deploying giant against shorter wingbacks is better than putting giant vs giant defenders. only AW can answer it.

And Diaby isn't such a bad player. He's young. That's his main problem. Young and inexperience although he has been playing for quite awhile. He tends to overdo stuffs, like running and dribbling. Again, he plays best in central role not flanks. If you watch d Portsmouth match u ll know that is his best position, not the flanks!

Probably for yesterday's game AW should have started Eboue instead of Diaby. Eboue passes and crosses bettter. even dribble much better than Diaby. And he plays on the flanks.

I was quite angry to see us loose but credit to ManCity who showed much more character and mental strength. When i watch Sp*rs vs ManU match last nite i was asking myself, why can't Arsenal players have such strong winning mentality like ManU players where they were 1-0 down in such an early part of the game and yet still able to fight back to win the game 1-3!


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post Sep 13 2009, 07:14 PM

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btw, summarizing our first 4 games of the season..
1. 6-1 win against Ever.
2. 4-1 win against Ports.
3. 1-2 lose to MU.
4. 2-4 lose to MC.

are we going from best to worst? =(


Added on September 13, 2009, 7:18 pmwe keep saying it's wenger's tactical mistake..
how or when are we going to convince him to correct it??
after watching the game, i feel that maybe i cannot fully trust wenger anymore sad.gif

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post Sep 13 2009, 07:39 PM

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Anyone here know when Nasri, Walcott and Vela will be back?

How does our midfield works?

like this:

Denilson Fabregas

Song

or like this:

Fabregas

Denilson Song
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QUOTE(gummerz @ Sep 13 2009, 07:39 PM)
Anyone here know when Nasri, Walcott and Vela will be back?

How does our midfield works?

like this:

    Denilson      Fabregas
         
                Song

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i think should be like this... but i saw in the match line ups showing the other way..
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post Sep 13 2009, 07:58 PM

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we need an influential captain now, someone like roy keane...
no matter how talented and how much experience he had.
cesc is neither adam nor a captain material yet.

passing not as fluent as the bergkamp era tat can unlock any defence
dribbling not as good as henry era where he can go past any players
finishing not as deadly as wright era where he can score from any position in the box.

seems like they started to become ordinary game after game.
maybe i should stop watching arsenal game lolz...
everytime i dint watch, they win..
i watch both manchester match and they lost both games. doh.gif
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Sep 13 2009, 07:58 PM)
we need an influential captain now, someone like roy keane...
no matter how talented and how much experience he had.
cesc is neither adam nor a captain material yet.

passing not as fluent as the bergkamp era tat can unlock any defence
dribbling not as good as henry era where he can go past any players
finishing not as deadly as wright era where he can score from any position in the box.

seems like they started to become ordinary game after game.
maybe i should stop watching arsenal game lolz...
everytime i dint watch, they win..
i watch both manchester match and they lost both games. doh.gif
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Robin might be a better captain although it would put more pressure on him, plus it might just reignite his fiery temper and he'll bash someone up.... Maybe Rosicky instead. Nah... Armband's curse... give it to Diaby lololol tongue.gif

Yesterday's lost was due to a one-off poor performance, but I am reluctant to think that we are a poor team. We were never the inferior team vs MU, we blasted Everton and Celtic, we were sloppy against Pompey but still technically superior.

The lads just need to pick themselves up and play like they did against Everton - non stop running, fluid interchanging of positions, and being disciplined enough to track back and defend.

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Finally justice will be served!!!F**k u lah Ade!!i hope u get banned n fined as heavy as possible...u r a disgrace to ever be a gunner!!! vmad.gif mad.gif
bodo!!dh score dhlh...nk pg lari satu padang buat ape....nasib baik x berlaku rusuhan...bangang!!!anelka also scored against us but never celebrate...
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i still think we need a world class keeper to get us a clean sheet..
a keeper who could give command and coordinate to our defences.

lets look the next match to see how our team play...
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post Sep 13 2009, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 13 2009, 08:15 PM)
Robin might be a better captain although it would put more pressure on him, plus it might just reignite his fiery temper and he'll bash someone up.... Maybe Rosicky instead. Nah... Armband's curse... give it to Diaby lololol tongue.gif

Yesterday's lost was due to a one-off poor performance, but I am reluctant to think that we are a poor team. We were never the inferior team vs MU, we blasted Everton and Celtic, we were sloppy against Pompey but still technically superior.

The lads just need to pick themselves up and play like they did against Everton - non stop running, fluid interchanging of positions, and being disciplined enough to track back and defend.
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lol yeah, robin got some temper...
but temper is an important prerequisite for a captain, tapi tak payah melebih lebih macam roy keane sweat.gif

i tink the team still quite naive and lack the necessary mental strength. hopefully they can get back on their feet the soonest.
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post Sep 13 2009, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(kuai_chai @ Sep 13 2009, 07:14 PM)
btw, summarizing our first 4 games of the season..
1. 6-1 win against Ever.
2. 4-1 win against Ports.
3. 1-2 lose to MU.
4. 2-4 lose to MC.

are we going from best to worst? =(


Added on September 13, 2009, 7:18 pmwe keep saying it's wenger's tactical mistake..
how or when are we going to convince him to correct it??
after watching the game, i feel that maybe i cannot fully trust wenger anymore sad.gif
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everton and portsmouth are underpowered team's, it's no surprise we trash them... and both teams are bottom of the table now..
eager to watch arsenal play wit either chelsea or tottenham.
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post Sep 13 2009, 08:29 PM

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..no matter what happened between Ade and the club/fans, the celebration was a bit too much...
when i saw the crowd jumping up and down and cursing him..it was frightening...

This post has been edited by nando: Sep 13 2009, 08:29 PM

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