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post Oct 22 2009, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(tjay_tj @ Oct 22 2009, 08:07 PM)
guess u had to get the patch for the nfs shift ( doh.gif if u got the ahem version whistling.gif ), the 5870 is the best card ever and should have that kind of performance.
or wait till ati release new driver for the card.
1st working driver arent that great  laugh.gif
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I haven't tried the patch but from what I've read people have problems with the patch too. I'm gonna try it though, it can't hurt ...

And yeah, I'm eagerly waiting for the first official driver ... 22nd of October and still no 9.10 out sad.gif

But from what I've read, it's not sure whether ATI can fix the problem with driver as it seems to be a problem from the game with the PhysX drivers, which ATI do not have control ... :/


Added on October 23, 2009, 1:03 amActually, after installing the patch, It is much better. Not perfect though as there are still some tracks were there are micro stuttering but at least it is playable now.

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post Oct 23 2009, 12:16 PM

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good to heard that u're getting better result.
it hurt to buy something so expensive but give shoddy result. smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 01:04 PM

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BTW, thanks for the tip tj wink.gif

And Wooot, Catalyst 9.10 finally out ... trying them right away rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 01:16 PM

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post Oct 23 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(r4st4m4n @ Oct 22 2009, 04:24 PM)
My HDD are in the 5.25' bay, I bought some adapters and painted them in black (RM 5 for the pair at All IT LY):

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Yup, that's right. Already received the replacement unit. And it works great  brows.gif

3dmark Vantage HD 5870@stock - Q6600@3.6GHz

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Crysis Warhead benchmark:

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DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 23.62 Max: 62.36 Avg: 49.58 ]

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 2x
==> Framerate [ Min: 24.49 Max: 52.13 Avg: 42.92 ]

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 28.99 Max: 49.42 Avg: 40.77 ]

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 2x
==> Framerate [ Min: 26.16 Max: 44.04 Avg: 35.58 ]


For the moment, I leave the stock cooler as I have been scared enough by the first one. I'll probably get a full cover block for this card once I feel more comfortable that the card is 100% stable smile.gif

I also want to upgrade my monitor as 1680x1050 is almost too easy for this card  laugh.gif

One thing that sucks though is NFS shift. Those idiots @ EA programmed the game so that it runs nicely only on NVIDIA card due to PhysX killing the framerate if you have an ATI  mad.gif
My FPS dips below the 20s in some case and there are lot of micro stuttering which kills the game play. I guess a Quad core @ 3.6GHz and a 5870 just doesn't meet the min. requirements for this game  rolleyes.gif
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those are nice frames.. i get 35 for crysis D:, bro, maybe u should change to i7 and see how the card performs


Added on October 23, 2009, 2:43 pm
QUOTE(r4st4m4n @ Oct 22 2009, 04:24 PM)
My HDD are in the 5.25' bay, I bought some adapters and painted them in black (RM 5 for the pair at All IT LY):

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Yup, that's right. Already received the replacement unit. And it works great  brows.gif

3dmark Vantage HD 5870@stock - Q6600@3.6GHz

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Crysis Warhead benchmark:

CODE
DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 23.62 Max: 62.36 Avg: 49.58 ]

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 2x
==> Framerate [ Min: 24.49 Max: 52.13 Avg: 42.92 ]

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 28.99 Max: 49.42 Avg: 40.77 ]

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 2x
==> Framerate [ Min: 26.16 Max: 44.04 Avg: 35.58 ]


For the moment, I leave the stock cooler as I have been scared enough by the first one. I'll probably get a full cover block for this card once I feel more comfortable that the card is 100% stable smile.gif

I also want to upgrade my monitor as 1680x1050 is almost too easy for this card  laugh.gif

One thing that sucks though is NFS shift. Those idiots @ EA programmed the game so that it runs nicely only on NVIDIA card due to PhysX killing the framerate if you have an ATI  mad.gif
My FPS dips below the 20s in some case and there are lot of micro stuttering which kills the game play. I guess a Quad core @ 3.6GHz and a 5870 just doesn't meet the min. requirements for this game  rolleyes.gif
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those are nice frames.. i get 35 for crysis D:, bro, maybe u should change to i7 and see how the card performs


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post Oct 23 2009, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Oct 23 2009, 02:43 PM)
those are nice frames.. i get 35 for crysis D:, bro, maybe u should change to i7 and see how the card performs
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Well, I don't think it would change something. It would definitely grow my "Vantage e-peen" but I don't care laugh.gif

In game, I would probably not notice any difference, probably only ~0.5FPS in selected games ... I think I'll wait for the 32nm i9 scheduled for Q1 next year for a mobo / CPU upgrade wink.gif


Added on October 23, 2009, 6:06 pmCorrection: NFS SHIFT is still rubbish. It seems to depend of the track. Some I get a steady 60FPS (V-sync on) and some the FPS will dips below 20s and look like a slideshow vmad.gif

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post Oct 23 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(r4st4m4n @ Oct 23 2009, 04:04 PM)
Well, I don't think it would change something. It would definitely grow my "Vantage e-peen" but I don't care laugh.gif

In game, I would probably not notice any difference, probably only ~0.5FPS in selected games ... I think I'll wait for the 32nm i9 scheduled for Q1 next year for a mobo / CPU upgrade wink.gif


Added on October 23, 2009, 6:06 pmCorrection: NFS SHIFT is still rubbish. It seems to depend of the track. Some I get a steady 60FPS (V-sync on) and some the FPS will dips below 20s and look like a slideshow  vmad.gif
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u know theres a hack to enable physx while using an ATI card D:.. maybe u should grab a 9600GT and try it.. it should help if its physx problem
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post Oct 24 2009, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Oct 23 2009, 09:41 PM)
u know theres a hack to enable physx while using an ATI card D:.. maybe u should grab a 9600GT and try it.. it should help if its physx problem
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I've been thinking about that. But
1) I am not sure it will fix the problem, I need to some research to see if anyone is doing it.
2) Nvidia already try once to block it and although a workaround as been found this time, I am a bit worry that next time Nvidia manage to block it for good.
3) I am hoping that DX11 physics will send Nvidia PhysX to oblivion tongue.gif

Although I'd be interested to see if it works. Anyone who lend me a Nvidia card for testing ? tongue.gif

EDIT: me think I have a Quadro in my work PC which is actually a 8600GT, I wonder if I could use that for physx ... ?


Added on October 24, 2009, 7:48 pmI can't use a Quadro Card for Physx ... However I can fool the system by editing the INF and have the OS think I installed a 8600 GT instead of a Quadro. The problem now is that Vista doesn't allow to use 2 different VGA if they don't use the same drivers => not possible to have ATI and Nvidia working side by side. So now I have to install Win 7 if I want to try the hack ... :/

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post Oct 24 2009, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(r4st4m4n @ Oct 24 2009, 03:46 PM)
I've been thinking about that. But
1) I am not sure it will fix the problem, I need to some research to see if anyone is doing it.
2) Nvidia already try once to block it and although a workaround as been found this time, I am a bit worry that next time Nvidia manage to block it for good.
3) I am hoping that DX11 physics will send Nvidia PhysX to oblivion  tongue.gif

Although I'd be interested to see if it works. Anyone who lend me a Nvidia card for testing ? tongue.gif

EDIT: me think I have a Quadro in my work PC which is actually a 8600GT, I wonder if I could use that for physx ... ?


Added on October 24, 2009, 7:48 pmI can't use a Quadro Card for Physx ... However I can fool the system by editing the INF and have the OS think I installed a 8600 GT instead of a Quadro. The problem now is that Vista doesn't allow to use 2 different VGA if they don't use the same drivers => not possible to have ATI and Nvidia working side by side. So now I have to install Win 7 if I want to try the hack ... :/
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yeah thats the problem.. u need win7 =/.. the 8600gt could do physx btw..
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post Oct 24 2009, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Oct 24 2009, 08:54 PM)
yeah thats the problem.. u need win7 =/.. the 8600gt could do physx btw..
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I've just finished installing 7 biggrin.gif

I'm installing the drivers and need also to test NFS before the PhysX hack ... will keep you updated wink.gif
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post Oct 24 2009, 11:12 PM

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It seems the PhysX hack work as I am getting 1500pts more in Vantage due to the physics test being a lot better. However, the FPS still sucks in NFS cry.gif

It doesn't seem to even run slightly better than before ... I guess I'll just have to wait for EA games to release a patch for ATI.
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QUOTE(r4st4m4n @ Oct 24 2009, 11:12 PM)
It seems the PhysX hack work as I am getting 1500pts more in Vantage due to the physics test being a lot better. However, the FPS still sucks in NFS cry.gif

It doesn't seem to even run slightly better than before ... I guess I'll just have to wait for EA games to release a patch for ATI.
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lol.. D: good work on the physx thingy.. hmm can't believe u are still getting fps dips on NFS =_=...
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nice case mod! for ur hd5870 did u try rename the .exe to grid.exe? its a temp fix atm if u r getting low frame rate. nfs uses software physx its just few games nowdays r "programed" to run faster on nvidia cause they provide funding for the game, ati just sits on its butt and let the game comes out ; ;
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Nov 3 2009, 07:06 PM)
nice case mod! for ur hd5870 did u try rename the .exe to grid.exe? its a temp fix atm if u r getting low frame rate. nfs uses software physx its just few games nowdays r "programed" to run faster on nvidia cause they provide funding for the game, ati just sits on its butt and let the game comes out ; ;
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I tried and it didn't seem to help. I just have to wait and hope EA release a patch ...


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post Nov 10 2009, 09:29 PM

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New update brows.gif

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Picture of the block installed coming soon as well as results smile.gif
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nice full WB martin.. when fit with the compression fittings + 45 degree rotary compression, the looks is just wonderful and neat... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2009, 03:01 PM

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Yup, the compression fittings are next on my WCing shopping list, but I want to upgrade my monitor first.

Here are some pictures of the card in the case. The high flow fitting and metalic worm clamp give a kind of industrial look which is not bad either wink.gif

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I haven't had much time to test the OCing. But I did a quick testing @ 1.2V Vgpu and can push the clock to 1015 (gpu) / 1250 (GDDR5) and it seems stable as I could run Vantage and 2x3 loops of Crysis Warhead benchmark + ~1h30 of rfactor. I might be able to push even further at this voltage, But more important I still have plenty of room to push the voltage up to 1.35V rclxms.gif


Win 7 - CCC 9.10 - HD5870@stock - Q6600@3.6GHz
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Win 7 - CCC 9.10 - HD5870@1015-1250 - vgpu 1.2V - Q6600@3.6GHz
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At 1015/1250 I've already got +1K points in Vantage P score, not bad at all drool.gif

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Beautiful setup and overclock there Martin biggrin.gif I like your sleeving a lot laugh.gif
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Sexy block think mine is the same keke, 9.12 catalyst coming soon tested beta results on hardocp and nfs shift is 20% faster ! Looks like our money is well spent tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2009, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Nov 11 2009, 07:58 PM)
Sexy block think mine is the same keke, 9.12 catalyst coming soon tested beta results on hardocp and nfs shift is 20% faster ! Looks like our money is well spent tongue.gif
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Same block ? Do you mind posting your config and some GPU-z screen while loading so I can compare your temp ?

9.12 improves NFS shift by 20% drool.gif I got to download these drivers fast then. I have been waiting for some good NFS drivers for ages ... smile.gif

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