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 Project: B&W Temjin 07, Watercooled Silvertone TJ-07 in B&W

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post Aug 17 2009, 01:03 AM, updated 16y ago

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The project

The title says it all: my project is to build a watercooled Silvertone TJ-07 and I'd like to keep as much as possible everything black and white.
This is my first ever case mod and also my first ever water cooled PC, so it is quite a challenge. But hey, there is always a first time.

My goal is to have a nice and clean system and try to keep the modding at a minimum. I don't like the *bling* and since I have no modding experience, I won't go for extensive modifications (at least for now). This is also the reason why I chose the TJ-07 as it has lots of room and can be used for water cooling with little modifications.

The purpose of this worklog is more to get help and suggestions from more experienced forumers rather than really share my knowledge, since I have pretty much everything to learn. But I hope at the end, this worklog will help inexperienced users and maybe help them to take the jump into building their own project.

The Hardware

For the rig, I am reusing the components I have currently as I have a limited budget and pretty much everything is going for the purchase of the case, the water cooling components, the tools and other bits needed in the project.

SYSTEM
CPU: Intel Quad Core Q6600
Mobo: GA-X48-DQ6
RAM: 2x1GB Ballistix tracers DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
GC: Sapphire HD 4870
HDD: WD Velociraptor 150 GB (system) + WD Green 500GB (data)
PSU: Corsair TX 850W
Case: Silvertone TJ-07 Black with window

I am planning to get a new GC and mobo with black PCB to fit with the theme, but I'll wait for a worthy upgrade, like the ATI 5870 and either the Core i5 or the 32nm Core i7.

Water cooling (ordered)
(1) Heatkiller 3.0 LT LGA775
(1) Heatkiller LGA775 back plate
(1) swiftech MCP655 vario (5 speed control)
(1) Swiftech MCR320-QP Triple 120mm Radiator
(3) Scythe 120x25mm SlipStream SY1225SL12H - 88 CFM
(10) feet of 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) tygoon Tubing
(1) EK-Multioption RES 250 rev.2
(1) Swiftech MCW-60R GPU waterblock
(8) 1/2" DTEK High Flow Chrome barbs

I welcome any comment on the WC stuff, but since it is already ordered, I cannot change it anymore. Having done a lot of search, I think it should perform quite well though.

The Tools

As I said, it's my first case mod, and since I work as a software developer, I have never really had the need to buy tools other than the ones required to build furniture from IKEA. So currently, my tools are quite ... limited rolleyes.gif

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The worst is that most of the junk in that box will be useless for this build. The only really useful tools are the short (worn out) philips screwdriver and the "T" shape (worn out) multi head screwdriver.

It's not easy to actually works with so little tool so I'll probably get some more as the project requires. But meanwhile it is interesting as you have to make your brain work hard to find solutions to problems which would be solved in 1 minute with the right tool. Surely not the fastest way, but it is a lot more fun tongue.gif

The Goals

My main goal is to have fun. I have always been fiddling with my computer, being it on the software side or on the hardware side. I have done some soft and hard mods on it, but never got into the whole case mod project. Same goes for water cooling. I have been reading a lot on the subject but never take the plunge. It seems a lot more fun that air cooling though (just slap the cooler and be done with it), that's why I decided to go water on this project.

In term of end result, I would definitely want to have something which some close to the murderbox (http://www.murderbox.com/gallery.html) and it is when seeing the gorgeous builds of Charles H. that it made me wants to build my own TJ-07. But seeing how awesome are this TJ-07, even if I end up with a build looking half as good as the murderbox, I will be more than satisfied.

Ok, enough talk and let's start with the project.

15 august 2009

I got the case today. Prior to the start of the project, I had a lot of hesitations as to which case I would use. After seeing the TJ-07 from up close, it erased all my doubts. This case is really gorgeous and there is a lot of room for all the WC gears.

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Something I don't really like about the black TJ-07, it is it's shiny aluminum interior. So one thing was clear in my mind from the start, I have to paint the interior, and I decided that a flat back would fit nicely with the black brushed aluminum exterior.

So first thing to do, is to take the case apart.

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This case is not only beautiful, but also very practical. Unlike most cases, almost everything is held by screws rather than rivets, which make it very easy to deconstruct for painting. The only thing which is held by rivets are the parts of the motherboard tray and the rails of the motherboard tray.

So now I already encountered my first interrogation in this project: how should I paint the inside of the case ?

1) My first thought was to have it powder coated. It will definitely looks good but the problem is to find a place that can do it for an affordable price.
2) I can have it professionally spray painted, should be easier to find for a better price than the powder coating
3) I can spray paint it myself. The problem is I have never painted anything. But this solution has the advantage of being a lot more fun than having it made by someone else wink.gif

16 august 2009

So the idea of painting the interior myself grew up on me. After some "painting 101" reading on the Internet, I decided to go to the hardware shop and grab a can of primer, a can of flat back, a can of rubbing alcohol to clean the surfaces before applying the primer and some 2000 grid sand paper.

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Oh and while I was there, I also decided to start my collection of "real" tool:

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Ok, that's still a bit light biggrin.gif
But it will make a big difference for me as I had a hard time with some of the screws yesterday, since my screwdrivers head were all worn out.

Ok, so as I said, I have never painted anything in my life, so rather than go straight for the interior of the case and possibly screw things up, I am going to do some testing first.

My victim will be the hard drive cage (when I told you my painting skills were questionable at best)

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I chose the HDD cage for two reason:
1) There are two in the TJ-07 and with the WC gears, I will have at best only place for one of them in the case.
2) I might have to relocate the HDD in the 5.25 bay because of the radiator taking most of the space at the bottom of the case. So I might not use the HDD cage at all and buy some 5.25 to 3.5 adapters. Although after a quick look at it, I might be able to fit the the HDD cage into the 5.25 with some slight modification.

For the result, either my painting skills will suck badely, and I still have the spare HDD cage if I need it. Or the painting will turn half good and the HDD cage being in a spot not really visible, I might still be able to use the painted one. Or the painting turns out good enough to use the painted cage and it will give me confidence to do the rest of the interior.

So first I have to wet sand the HDD cage:

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And this what it looks like up close after cleaning:

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I just sanded it slightly to ensure the primer and the paint would stick properly to the bare aluminum. I might have been able to just apply the primer without sanding, but from what I read, even if the end result may look okay, chances that it will chip easily and not last over time.

Next was to setup my spray boot (any resemblance with a plastic table cover with newspaper is purely coincidental rolleyes.gif )

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Then I wanted to apply the primer, but realized it was night already. I think it will be better if I spray during day time as I will be less likely to make mistake.

So that's it for now. I'll probably apply the primer and the paint tomorrow and will keep you updated on the result.

Meanwhile, I welcome any comments or suggestions on my project.
I am still not sure whether I will paint the interior myself. I guess I'll have to wait to see the result of the HDD cage. So if anyone knows a place in PJ where I can have the interior powder coated or spray painted, please let me know. wink.gif

I am already in the process to get a quotation for spray paint, but I would definitely want to have several quotations to have more choice.

17 august 2009

see post no 3: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=27995884

18 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry28030588

21 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28098768

22 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28118838

24 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28169449

25 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28193583

27 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28246423
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28246780

28-31 august 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28325470
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28325502

12 september 2009

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28593654

This post has been edited by r4st4m4n: Oct 8 2009, 01:01 AM
lun1986
post Aug 17 2009, 09:38 AM

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wait ur wc setup
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post Aug 17 2009, 12:35 PM

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17 august 2009

Today, I have painted the HDD cage.

After 3 (thin) layer of primer:

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And after 4-5 thin layer of paint:

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I'm quite happy with the result. The first layer of primer was not that great as I tried to apply too much paint and from to close. There was 2-3 spots with too much paint. So I waited ~30 min and sanded very lightly these spots to ensure they were flat. After that, I applied very thin layer of primer/paint and waited ~10 min between two applications. I have waited about ~30 min between the last application of primer and the first of paint.

Since the result is quite good, I think I'm going to paint the whole interior myself. So, the rest of the week will be for sanding and painting. It will keep me busy while waiting for the WC stuff to arrive.


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post Aug 17 2009, 02:31 PM

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it is a waste to paint the alu parts

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post Aug 17 2009, 05:31 PM

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murderbox is killing me vmad.gif mad.gif cry.gif ...

btw gud luck on ur mod thumbup.gif ....waiting for update nod.gif ..
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post Aug 17 2009, 05:47 PM

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flat back or fade black? tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Aug 17 2009, 02:31 PM)
it is a waste to paint the alu parts
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I personally don't like the shiny aluminum since I am going for a clean "stealth" look. But I guess it all comes down to personal preferences. smile.gif

QUOTE(kilowatt @ Aug 17 2009, 05:31 PM)
murderbox is killing me  vmad.gif  mad.gif  cry.gif ...

btw gud luck on ur mod  thumbup.gif ....waiting for update  nod.gif ..
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Lol. Thanks.

QUOTE(suicideroach @ Aug 17 2009, 05:47 PM)
flat back or fade black? tongue.gif
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Flat black, that's what written on the can anyways wink.gif

UPDATE: see post no 3: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=27995884

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post Aug 17 2009, 06:57 PM

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bro,after spray alu surface still have those brush effect anot ??
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post Aug 17 2009, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(swmung @ Aug 17 2009, 06:57 PM)
bro,after spray alu surface still have those brush effect anot ??
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No, the brush effect disappear with the paint. When looking up close, there is actually a slight "orange skin" texture due to the spray painting:

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That would be bad if I'd go for a shiny/mirror black finish. But since I am going for a flat black, it actually helps to give the "stealth" effect to the paint (the flatter the paint job is, the shinier it looks).
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post Aug 17 2009, 08:02 PM

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nice paint job bro...
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post Aug 17 2009, 10:56 PM

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wow... 1st time already so nice..
see my project... all project also got runied paintjob.. cry.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:50 PM

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if all flat black will be nice.
compare to uncle's all alu
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post Aug 18 2009, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(k3lvinng007 @ Aug 17 2009, 08:02 PM)
nice paint job bro...
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Thank you.

QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 17 2009, 10:56 PM)
wow... 1st time already so nice..
see my project... all project also got runied paintjob.. cry.gif
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Yeah, I saw your thread when I was looking for information about case painting. The paint job on the case when you got was so horrible, it is almost impossible to fix it smile.gif
I think you did a good job when taken that into consideration wink.gif

I think for the front panel, maybe you applied too much paint. I tried to apply very thin layers. So thin that even after the 2nd layer of primer, I could still see the metal through at some points. Same for the paint, after 2nd application, I still could see the primer through at some spot. The result is generally better when you apply more thin layers versus less thick layers.

QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Aug 17 2009, 11:50 PM)
if all flat black will be nice.
compare to uncle's all alu
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Thanks.

But I have only done one (not so important) piece. So I guess I will be able to say the paint job is a success only once I will have painted all the important panels wink.gif

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post Aug 18 2009, 05:15 PM

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it is pain for me to see this case open out for modding... laugh.gif

good painting skills u have there...
hope to see it finished soon rclxms.gif
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good luck bro ! looking forward for ur project ^^,
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waiting for ur update
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bro bout d defects , at least its waaayyy better result compared to m2n-e >><"
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post Aug 18 2009, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(tjay_tj @ Aug 18 2009, 05:15 PM)
it is pain for me to see this case open out for modding...  laugh.gif

good painting skills u have there...
hope to see it finished soon  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 18 2009, 05:49 PM)
good luck bro ! looking forward for ur project ^^,
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 18 2009, 06:33 PM)
waiting for ur update
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QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 18 2009, 06:41 PM)
bro bout d defects , at least its waaayyy better result compared to m2n-e >><"
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Thanks guys smile.gif

18 august 2009

I haven't had time to do much yesterday evening as I was busy working, so not a big update for today. However, it's a good news as before to be fully confident to paint the case interior myself, I wanted to some "scratch resistance" testing on the HDD cage. I was worry that the paint would chip easily.

So after 24 hours of drying, I tried to scratch the paint with a screwdriver ... shakehead.gif
It kinda hurt my heart to do that, but I had to be sure the paint wouldn't chip easily. I did it on a part of the HDD cage that will not be visible at all (it will be hiddent under the HDD):

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First, I tried to scratch the paint with my nail and I can put as much pressure as I want, it won't leave any mark. Then I use the screwdriver.
The long scratch you can see at the bottom is when I applied a "normal" pressure to screwdriver, and as you can see, it does leave a slight mark, but you can't see the bare metal under at all, you can't even see the primer.
As final test I tried to put a "very strong" pressure on the screwdriver (upper mark on the picture) and event then the paint didn't chip nor I can see the bare metal.

It actually looks worse on the picture than it is in reality because of the macro mode.

I am now totally confident that I can handle the paint job and that the paint will last over time, so tonight I'll sand as much as possible. I might have the time to sand everything, but I prefer to take my time anyway wink.gif

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post Aug 18 2009, 10:22 PM

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its a good thing though .
i did black interior on mine , but sadly screwing in d nuts tightly will chip off d paint but not in big sizes , juz small2 behind d nut ^^,
so no biggie bro . go for it !!
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NICEEE...more pic bro..waiting for the nextt tongue.gif gud luck

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