Hi there,

I noticed that there is no topic at all for Discus Fish so I created one for discussion on it. Before I continue further, I would like to introduce my self. I am currently working in Genting and I had an aquarium in my hostel. Up to date, I had succesfully spawn and has free swimming discus babies which I sold them to the local fish shop near Ampang.

At the moment, I had 6 adults discus which they called it as Marboro Red.

So any of you guys there need any help on discuss breeding or interested in rearing discus, please ask it here.

Cheers..

This post has been edited by samuelkk: Aug 16 2009, 10:33 AM

Hello, I post 6 picture 1st for now.

Wow. Lots of discus there.. Are you a fish shop owner or discus breeder?

Unfortunately, none of those, my friend breed them in large scale.

Enjoy!

The more reply the more picture I'll post =)

I used to keep discus as well.
A pair formed out of the 14 fish and spawned twice.
But unfortunately the eggs never hatch.

Oh, well, my friend there every week also can see babies
I'll ask him when I meet him.

It is not easy to spot the difference between male and female of discus as their color and patterns ranging from blue, blue-greenish, orange to red.

When I was 15, I have managed to successfully bred them from young fry to adulthood.

What I normally do is that I use 2.5 feet tank, and did some fish pairing, based on trial and error using aquarium partitions supported with suction disc.

The males are often more brightly colored compared to females. You need to spot them closely.

If you get a successful pairing, the fish will lay eggs on hard, cylinder shaped surface, which is placed vertically. A 3 inch to 3.5 inch size PVC pipe placed vertically is good enough. Use white colored PVC pipe so it is easy to spot the egg cluster.

The egg clusters are bright orange colored. Avoid provoking or agitating the fish. If threatened the pair of fish will ate all the eggs.

When the eggs hatches, the fry will feed on the mucus on the parents scales, and both parent take turns in feeding and nurturing the young. The young will swim side by side with the parents to feed. At this point, you might want to switch off the water filter, to prevent some young fry to sucked in. The water must be well air-circulated with tiny air bubbles to maintain constant oxygen level. Some will also die naturally in the growing up process. Again avoid provoking or agitating the fish, the parent will eat the young if it felt life threatened. You can feed the fry with daphnia, a micro-organism, the parent may go on hunger to concentrate on nurturing.

It takes 4 to 5 weeks for the fry will take its adult form, which is the size of 20sen coins. When they reaches the size of 50sen coin the young can be separated from the parent and will grow up healthily.

very concise info

can i.. mix them with guppies?

Very good information. Please show us more

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the information above is obviously a very well kept secret among those who bred the fish commercially. Like the flowerhorn, and blood-red parrot fish, is from the cichlid family and it is a mix-breed. So far I have no idea how the blood-red parrot was bred.

Once you have got the idea of breeding the discus, it is amazingly simple. All it takes is the time you need to wait until you get a pairing and they start mating.

I am now looking at some ways to breed arowanas (sorry a bit off topic), I might consider it as an investment for side business apart from my mainstream income.

FYI I am now working fulltime and don't spend much time on aquariums, breeding discuss was 14 years back. In those years I did it out of a hobby, and discovered it naturally. At that time internet was just starting to get popular, and nothing was documented i don't even have a digital camera and only my memory is the best information that I can count on and share with all of you.

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Added on August 19, 2009, 4:51 pmyes, you can.

But for breeding purpose, do not mix them with other fish.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM

One good advice from my breeder friend who experience the field for close to 25 years now, arowana good money but sometimes doesnt sell well, discus on the other hand always got stable demand.

Did not spawn? Ermmmm, probably both of the discus is female. happen to me before. haha.. If you notice there is spawning, might be you could try to use metalyne blue. It will protect the eggs being infected with fungus also dont forget to use wire mesh to protect the eggs from being eaten by their parents too.

Cheers~

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Added on August 21, 2009, 2:21 amTotally agree with blitzboy. Normally after pairing, not only you need trial and error, the discus parents also need trial and error. Normally, it will only sucessful after few times of spawning.

To prevent the parents from eating the eggs, use wire mesh until it is free swimming. Besides that, I would recommend bottom free tank for the discus's babies.It is easier to maintain and clean.

As what blitzboy said, you will need a good oxygen level to have a happy discus because discus loves warmer water (27 - 30 Degree Celcius). When the temperature in the water is that high, it will not only kill most of the bacteria but also will kill your discus. Warmer water will have lesser oxygen in it.

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Added on August 21, 2009, 2:23 amI dont know if we could keep it with guppies. Ermmmm, normally we keep discus with angel fish or neon tetras.

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Added on August 21, 2009, 2:26 amYarh. There is always a demand for discus. On the other hand, discus spawn quite frequently. Approximately about few times a month. Get about 6 (2.5") young discus. Slowly grow it and most likely you will have about 1 or 2 pair of discus when they are adult.

This post has been edited by samuelkk: Aug 21 2009, 02:26 AM

justexotic, your fren is selling any discus.. thinking of getting 2 more. what types of discus does he have anyway?

If me work in Genting, I'll keep CRS. Save a lot without the chiller. Haha.
Anyway, I have few discus in home.
The size quite small even 1 year plus (pale blue colour), only have 2 adult (redish with strip on body) but never breed, maybe both female or male gua.

Lol. Totally agree with you on the CRS. Haha. Wow. Good luck on your discus. Now my discus also got some problem d. Always goes hiding. Not sick or anything. Just scare of the movement outside the tank. Thinking of new approach. tried to sit in the tank for 1 hour each day and it is getting better d.

Btw, it is really hard to differentiate between male and female discus. Need to see the dorsal fins. Try to google it and you will find alot of help and topic available in the web.

Cheers.

use to have alot.... almost 20 tanks...

then gave all away.. hahaha

He have a vast variety, come Penang, I'll take you to his place
Can come here and holiday too.

is it the location in tanjung bunga?

Nope.

can i know where is the location?

It's in Air Itam.

So far away le. I'm in Genting here and hometown is in Malacca. But, I am really fond of the discus that you have posted. So beautiful.

Btw, no ppl need advice for discus? Please post some of your discus here. Will post mine in few days later. ^^

let me snap some of my fish tomorrow ....

That's why I said come here vacation lo. I will keep on posting picture until more people get addicted. Well, I think for the hobbyist here, you can try name all the type of discus I posted.

any1 know wher i can buy discuss at kl area. my area is at wangsa maju area. Any lfs shop selling nice and healthy discuss ?

Hi HCTH. Its good to hear that you are going to have discus as your pet. I usually sell my discus to a fish shop. The shop is located just after the Flamingo Hotel (MRR2). The discus there are healthy and active. Before you buy the discus, you will need to prepare your aquarium and let it cycle at least for a day or two.

Look at this link for more info.

Good luck

i go to a shop nearby my area. but it discuss varies in discuss types.I means tat their discuss all junk together in an aquarium and not much choices. Thanks samuel kk. if possible can u gif me the shop name so tat i can find it address by google o ask around ?

I'll let you know when i get the shop name k. When choosing the discus, try to get the bold ones. If the discus is hiding at the corner alone, and dark, it might be signed of stress or sickness. The poo also should be black in colour. ^^

wad u meant by bold 1 ?

i tink he means by the coloring of the dicuss. The more sharp coloration of the discuss the better gua. correct me if i m wrong

Bold means daring. The discus fish dares to come to the front of the tank. On the other hand, it can be said that the fish is fearless and daring.

oic.sorry i was wrong.my discuss at shop tat time dares to come to the front of the tank. but when go home oso hide. nid sum time to let it b natural at my aquarium

Yarh. It need some time to get used to it. My discus behaving the same way too. But they were okay after 2 days.

mine took few weeks mabbe i work no time watch it.lol. mm duno my malboro will spawn o not a.hopefully its not both male o female

can i mix its with gold fish?

Normally I dont recommend discus fish to be kept with other types of fish.

Try getting another tank if you have 1 tank. Google for more information on preparing a discus tank before you get any discus.

Hi All,

I am New here

After saw the Discus fishes photos and read through all the post.. it really make me more interested on it. haa..

May I know Discuss got how many types?

Normally how much for it?

Thanks & Best regards

Let our Mr Samuel here do tell you more bout the type.

I'm here to poison with pictures

Man Made Discus

Snake Skin Discus

Leopard Snakeskin Discus

Snow White Discus

Golden Discus

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Added on August 27, 2009, 9:31 pmMan Made Discus

San Merah Discus

Albino Discus

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Added on August 27, 2009, 9:47 pmDear bro tkingt,

Before you go further of having discus as your pet, there are few things that you need to take note.

You will need to understand your discus natural habitat. Discus need a slightly acidic water which is around 6.5 to 6.8 in PH and warm water of 28 Celcius to 30 Celcius. Besides that, weekly maintainance is a must eg. changing of 20% to 25% of water each week. This will keep your discus fish healthy and happy.

Oh ya, you will need to buy at least a group of 6 discus so that they will not be stressed up. Prolong stress on a discus could lead to sickness and if care is not taken fast enuff, the whole stock of your discus will wipe out. Happen to me 7 years ago. 10 discus of mine died becoz i did not notice that they have ack diesease (small white spot around their body).

Just call me or sms me if your discus need help. I will let you know what to do. PM me for my HP number.

About preparing of your aquarium, you will need to have at least a 20gallon tank. More water the better because each time when you do water changes, the water chemistry wont change that much. Refer below for the checklist of item you need in setting up your tank.

1) Filter (power head filter will do)
2) Air pump (not necessary but warm water has lesser oxygen in it)
3) Water Heater (Is a must)
4) Thermometer (To monitor the temperature)
5) 2KG of sand (Not necessary if you want to have clear bottom tank. Will be nicer if you decerate it with sand and plants [artifical or real plants])
6) Gravel vacuum (not necessary if you dont have gravel or sand)
7) Lighting
8) Anti-chlorine and Anti-Chromite water conditioner (is a must)
9) Background poster (Optional, but will be nicer in your tank)

I think this is the least of it. Please let me know if i missed out sumthing.

This post has been edited by samuelkk: Aug 27 2009, 09:47 PM

Is it from kean weng??

Hi musicforlife,

Are you into discus too? care to intro your fishes to us?

Nope.
Good try
My breeder friend founded the labyrinth type.
Too bad I didn' took a picture of that.



This post has been edited by JustExotic: Aug 28 2009, 11:34 AM

Samuel,

Thanks alot your Info.

Anyway, I like Albino Discus and San Merah Discus.. so colourful.

Samuel, ur display pic.. izzit Albino Discus? Do you know where can find those 2 types? how much for 1 discus in the market?

Thanks ya

The display picture that you see if my discus fish. Currenly have two adults of this types. It is called Marboro Red. The few pictures that I've posted earlier is only few types of it. There are more of the discus types. Albino discus and San Merah discus is really hard to find. I suggest that you go to a typical fish shop and get about 6 young discus (2.5"). Each young discus should not exceed RM30. Normally they sell it at RM20 to 25 each.

Btw, discus won't show its full colour until they are adult. Approximately 1 year from free swimming discus. The display that you seen earlier is 2 years old already. All discus are actually beautiful when they are fully grown. Dont get too expensive discus because you will need trial and error. Learn from there then only buy better or more expensive discus.

Remember to let us know if you have problem with your discus or things that you dont understand. Eg. discus turn black or keep on hiding, sick, behaviour changes and so on.

Good luck~~

Samuel,

This fish tank can fix 6 discus ma? I use it for guppy fishes.

Hello...
I love discus fish too.. and i had 6 of them before because of i used the wrong bucket(my mom uses it to wash shirt),so all tong tong chiang ...

...by the way really nice discus...stop poisoning me....

You'll need at least 3ft tank le the best is 20gallon tank. You can try but the water chemistry will change too fast. will cause the fish to be stressed when you do water changes. Besides that, discus will not tolerate lazyness in water changes. You need to be committed to them.

Btw, your tank is so so so beautiful. I will upload mine soon.

^^

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Added on August 29, 2009, 3:09 amLoL. normally i dont mix the bucket/pipes/net for each tank. hehe. to prevent any fish dieases transfered to to each other tanks.

This post has been edited by samuelkk: Aug 29 2009, 03:09 AM

Can fit ikan bilis Joking

If no poison how this thread will be lifely leh?
Seems like not much keeper since now already page 3.

Golden albino for you


Billian albino

i think i know why there are little discus breeder nowdays. most probably discus is hard to keep and take care. it is like 5 times more harder to have a gold fish. discus fish are sensitive to its environment and need clean fresh water from time to time. too high of PH and temperature differences could kill your discus.

my purpose of having this topic created is to help other discus lovers and i believe our common gold is to understand our pet more in details and how or what to do when they are behaving weird or sick.

for me, i spend almost 1 to 2 hours daily looking at my discus while enjoying its beautiful colour. the wonderful things about discus is that it will recognized its owner. it is one of the strong reason of me having them.

oh ya not to mention the least of it, discus can be fed by hands. meaning, i used to feed my discus fish using my hands. the discus will feed directly thru my hand and i am able to touch my discus which they are not scare of me at all. when this happen, each time when i do my tank maintainance, the fish will swim around my hands for food. the size of my newly bought discus is about 5" inches. when i buy them, it is about the sized of only 50 cents coins.

in total i have 4 tanks with 26 discus.

please tell us more about your experience having discus. we as a discus lovers welcome new comers. ^^

There are not little discus breeder here in Malaysia. Just in Penang there is more than 5 for sure in large scale, large scale mean around 500 pcs of aquarium or more.. My friend have 700++pcs of aquarium with countless discus.

Hi All,

just to share some of my fish ...

sory for the poor quality picture and discus


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Another poisoning
Nice nice fish there

i can't stand it......but unfortunately i have SPM to handle first...haiz....oh well maybe you guys can see my future discus in the month of december..hope so

This is one of my discus collection.

Enjoy the pic and comments plz..

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Added on September 5, 2009, 3:09 am



This post has been edited by samuelkk: Sep 5 2009, 03:09 AM

8) Anti-chlorine and Anti-Chromite water conditioner (is a must)


can expert explain both of this wat diffrence?
isst recomend discuss to comm with aro?

SO NICE!!

how old r them now in the photo?

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Added on September 5, 2009, 9:24 pmwow... so many discus in 1 tank... can 1 meh?

This post has been edited by tkingt: Sep 5 2009, 09:24 PM

So so intoxicated now with all the nice collections!

So poison just looking at those photo, too bad recently i just invest into BETTA, maybe will have both in the future

4 tank.
Is tank temperature a problem in Genting?

cannot one but i got no more space so no choice

nice pic samuel...btw how old is your fish?...no offence but some look a bit stunted...>.<...jz my opinion

OH NO !!! I am poisoned!!
I am considering wanna take up the hobby again!!!!
This time in a LARGE SCALE !!!

Breeding and distributing to the local aquarium stores !!!

It's gonna make money....

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Sep 12 2009, 08:27 PM

I am interested!!
can I invest?? hee

nope. i dont have any problem with the temperature. just use a heater will fix the problem...

Thank for being interested but got risk lor.
Same goes for all businesses.

These fishes can breed in 100+ during the fry stage, and out of these numbers probably 40 to 60 will survive to maturity under ideal conditions.
With these breeding numbers, if no one buying te livestocks, then we have to take care of ALL of them just like our own pets.

Yup, I am believe every business also got risk.

hey..where u guys from?...i can introduce u all some 1 or 2 breeder...hehehe

Hiya,

Can someone tell me where to find cheapest food for discuss? and how much?

I have been trying to look after them. So far success with 2 pairs...still small to breed but would love too.

Also need to find a shop in kl or malacca for good breed n reasonable price. I found one in malacca at Malim...if anyone agreed? Their breed is good n healthy. I have a pair of them.

Need reply asap pls.

hi all..im new to this section..but just wandering..have anyone ever heard about fish angel?fish that can be born by using three sachet of sand lookalike?n the fish that can be breed are killifish...hope anyone can help me with this...since im new in here..need some otai advice

if you keep discus, dont think about cheapest food. use tetrabits. good quality food formulated for discus requirements.

mind asking where ur fren get them? does he/she buy them in bulk?

thanks

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Added on June 12, 2010, 5:33 pmfrom Kl here... interested to noe some breeders

This post has been edited by BenSow: Jun 12 2010, 05:33 PM

is there anyone selling / know discus breeder at selangor area ? i plan to put 2 pairs inside a planted tank . is it advisable ?

Try call this number 012 2749965, he is in kelana jaya. mite hv some to sell....

Hi all, Im AL da Great , more into snakes especially pythons. im helping a fren here who in charge of Weekend Morning Talk show called Hujung Minggu Malaysia aired on TV1 from 7.30am til 9.30am.

They have this segment called Aksi Si Comel, where every Sunday, one animal will be appeared in the segment with the owner. The hosts will ask the owner about the basic care of the animal. The purpose of the segment is to educate people the right way of keeping animals.

Here is the detail;
Name of the Segmen: Aksi Si Comel in Hujung Minggu Malaysia
Tv Station : RTM
Channel :TV1
Language: Bahasa Malaysia
Duration: 5-7 minutes
Storyline: The host come to your place, then straight to ur animal cage, interview owner abit about food, basic care n such then the host will go back

Before this the owner have to come to Angkasapuri Kuala Lumpur to join the segment but this time , they want to visit your house coz based on their experience, bringing the animal to the studio will make them stress.like before the host will ask basic husbandry about the animal and wanna see how animal keeper kept their animal.



If you are interested to appeared in the show, do PM me for more detail ya.

p/s Azazel, Aros , Crazymouse, Rafigos, Camillenoir, Uzairi has appeared in the segment before.

why betta thread disappeared d? >.<

may i ask some question here, i got a female betta, dint stay with any male before but now her stomach look very big & look like pregnant, really big, i see her also swim like very hard.

so what should i do? hope to get some help here. & also 2 of my male suddenly died, i can't find out what causes, their color just become dull & dull & look inactive, 2 weeks later dead. i got a few jar of them, using the same water, same anti-chlorine, but others just still ok & still active but the 2 just dead like that.

My discus spawning...

ooo nice!! how did u get them to spawn?

mind sharing ur tank size and number of discus u have?

Hi All,

I am helping my dad look for Discus fishes that are from Amazon. Anyone know where to source for some? Serious buyer and if you know any, please PM me.

Thank you.

Haha....I've been keeping discus for 2 years.
I've a pair of discus which are very productive & they spawn again during CNY, see below pic
I've 2 x 3ft tanks & 1 x 2ft tank.
I'm planning to sell my discus, because too many & thinking to upgrade

hmm...discus is so beautiful attracted to discus too
my uncle rear discus fish as a business
always get champion on discus competition
used to see him change the water few time a day...seems scary to rear a nice discus
he's from penang area.....
this is 1 of his champion discus


This post has been edited by YJYYEE: Feb 26 2011, 11:08 PM

guys, i have few type of discus under one tank.. the problem now is one of the fish is not healthy. got spot in the eyes.. any recommendation on what medication to use?

My discus fish tank...sad now under medication..
White spot on eyes n already 2fish got it...been using ocean free f n e but don't seem effective...anyone can advice me ah?

This post has been edited by ramen241: Feb 28 2011, 09:35 PM


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...so sad to hear that......
Quarantine the sick fish first...to prevent the spread of illness to other fish
then only start to medicate the sick fish
(correct me if i am wrong )

Wow nice ghost...
wonder where can i get ghost ...

[quote=YJYYEE,Mar 1 2011, 08:23 PM]
...so sad to hear that......
Quarantine the sick fish first...to prevent the spread of illness to other fish
then only start to medicate the sick fish
(correct me if i am wrong )

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Bro..any recommandation on what medication to use?

[quote=ramen241,Mar 1 2011, 10:07 PM]
[quote=YJYYEE,Mar 1 2011, 08:23 PM]
...so sad to hear that......
Quarantine the sick fish first...to prevent the spread of illness to other fish
then only start to medicate the sick fish
(correct me if i am wrong )

[/quote
Bro..any recommandation on what medication to use?

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If you can read chinese, can try to look for discus forum in China....I'm not sure it will violate LYNet if I past the link here

guys im looking for used aquarium let me knw if any of you wana let go.3feet and above pls.full set prefered.kl/selangor area.tq.

Dear sifus,

Who amongst you in Penang (or nearby) have the most beautiful Arowana of em all? I am looking for a house/apartment with a sizable and prominent aquarium with an Arowana (preferably a Golden Arowana) for a short film project. If you have the following we are listening:

- A home which shows that the owner has worked hard to achieve this dream home for his partner. The aquarium and Arowana are the icing on the cake.
- The interior location will feature as the home for the 2 main characters.
- The shoot will be a short one (will be done within a day, just needed shots of the fish).
- Excerpt from the script:



I'm willing to pay a good fee just for shots of the Arowana so if you are the one, please P.M or call me. This is urgent. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.

Kit
012-697 8309
petfishproject@yahoo.com

This post has been edited by creepo: Mar 15 2011, 07:22 PM

Does anyone know where to buy spirulina shrimp cube at Kepong ?

I have keep some discus (3 fish) but 2 of them died 4 months ago, now only left 1. I'm wondering y...

u guys can see my latest tank photo from this link:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...560&p=41947812&

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Added on April 29, 2011, 12:19 pmcan i know where is ur friend staying? or i can buy some discus from ur friend cheaper than LFS nearby

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Added on April 29, 2011, 12:33 pm


good work!

envy with u guys who can keep & breed discus by own self...
i got 3 before, but now left only one
perhaps i kinda lazy for WC, & that's y i'm using canister filter for my tank...
i usually do WC once every 2 or 3 weeks,50%.

This post has been edited by Namgor2006: Apr 29 2011, 12:33 PM