My Stack :



What do you guys think ?

Yes I am eating a balanced diet where ever I can. Low carb, high protein meals.

Screwed up today because I started using this stack yesterday and I had to sleep in today after finishing my days errands. Not sure which item kept me up until around 4 am. I can only afford to lift at night.




Loaded up on Casein after breakfast today nothing after that.


I dont feel as sore as before I began using the supplements but the pumps are not as evident.

Drinking close to 5 liters (or more, loss track) of water a day consciously looking for water to drink everywhere I go.


1) The toilet is like my next best friend now. Is this normal when using supps ?

2) Is it normal to be able to taste sugar in your mouth (even after a few hours) after downing a stack ?

3) Where the hell did my pump go ?

1) Could be the creatine, if I'm not mistaken. Can't answer 2 and 3 though.

The symptoms you listed all point toward imminent liver failure.

I think you take too many damn supplements. For question 1, its normal.

I did try to lift the same set since I dont feel 'sore' .... regret ..... can feel the strain (not pain) its more like fatigue.

Damn, too eager to start the stack immediately. I should have staggered the consumption to get a clearer understanding.

Thanks.



JOHN91

Dude, this is Day One of using supplements for me.

Personally I am taking it easy with my stack. I only take them on workout days which is alternating days.

Depending on my blood works I would cycle off of certain products.

WF is addictive. I will be extremely careful with it. I promise







This post has been edited by lot101: Aug 14 2009, 11:20 PM

caffeine is no no gd

The sugar after taste is most probably from the artificial sweeteners. I suspect it's the caffeine thingy (maybe CarbSlame or whey, but not very likely).

Caffeine is damn bitter, I think they load up the artificial sweetener a bit high to mask the bitterness. Artificial sweeteners can adhere to your tongue longer and cause prolonged sweet sensation.

Check the label for articial sweeteners like Acesulfame-K, saccharine, etc...

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Added on August 15, 2009, 2:28 amHow you know not good?!

This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Aug 15 2009, 02:28 AM

how sure are u? i used caffein before my workout and it works like hell.
u can actually feel something is burning

TS, u can also try taking carbslam during workout, try and see what is the best for your body.
good luck

kalau sakit perut and ber*k, it should be the creatine due to the byproduct called creatinine
but it could be something else yet if its not anything bad, then takpe la
keep up with the diet
how many grams of creatine u take per day
dont overload
for beginners pun usually max should be 10-15gms e.g. divide 10 grams into 2 servings per day
but dude, i seriously recommend u to take in more real food than just supps
rasa macam bazir je some of those u have like carb slam...
better u ambik musclemilk
and for post workout just stick to whey or whey + creatine
and i think unless ur uber ripped and ultra strong, xtend should be spared and take creatine prior to workout

but its all my 2 cents je


kalau liver failure, then the TS would have suffered jaundice (demam kuning), liver enlargement, sembelit or reduced flow of peristalsis
and which part of the supp stack is causing liver failure
at any rate, please quote your sources unless ur a doctor


again why?

Maybe its the sudden protein overload. Before this you take anything?

when you supplement, its always advised to 'stack' the supplements you take.

meaning, start with just one supplement for a month, then add in another one the next, followed by another the following month.. etc.

this way, you will allow your body to get used to the supplements you take. I had stomach problems when first taking creatine. What i did was break up the servings to 1/2 serving before workout and 1/2 after until slowly i could stomach 1 serving at a time.

did you pile up these supplements you're taking or take it all 1 shot from the beginning?

I am fine with this setup. I just dont like the sweet after taste that lingers. I think its from Casein, since it started only after that.

I suspect WF to be keeping me up till so deep into the AM.

My visits to the loo is actually to take a leak and not pass motion terribly sorry if I caused any confusion here .

This occurs even when I am not on supp. But its more frequent when I started. Theres a thread here and tons in BB forum regarding creat. It dehydarates you, I have double upped my H2O intake after create consciously.

Cant work out or use supps, even though I want to. Running a temperature but panadol brings it down.


TINEAGLE

oh yes I did I took WF b4 the workout. only water during and post workout is whey, carbslam and creat blend in cold water.

Casein b4 bed, but didnt hit the sack until 4am probably due to the WF (250gm cafffeine O_O)

no real probs accept for the WF keping me up (I plan to lower the dose) and hard stools (creatine). Need more water!