think u asked around few months back on Saville right? Always tot Saville got decent potential to make it...nearly went in but bought others instead

Honestly I dont give a hoot about what ppl call me. After all its just talk, im not gonna get any poorer

I just hate Sales Person from a particuar project go online and start talking how good their properties are then give misleading sales points to con gullible buyers. When I started few years back, if not bcoz some senior forumers who were against buying for speculation, I would have bought some good or bad KLCC/MK properties and paid the price now due to one hell of a speculative investor lady. We later find out that she earns referrals from developer for some of the projects she promotes. Some unlucky forumers even paid above 100k more aboe maket value for a project that she promotes.

This forum will be a bad place for getting advise if every project oso have to buy,buy, buy

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Added on September 23, 2009, 1:11 pmMate,

Personally do you think its alrite to make excessive claims on any particular project and leave these claims unbacked by facts?

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On lah Backkom

Btw, I wonder if TT will send invitation card to all Zest buyers for the launch of its show unit?


p/s : I think when Zest is ready, Eugene should head the JMB

Yup. I'd be tempted to sell if I can sell it off close to 400k, now that the LRT is confirmed nearby. But think2 oso quite sayang to sell coz all similar future condo nearby LRT for sure wont sell for anything less than 400k. Zest is defo a keeper, yields should be close to 7%-9% once the dust settles. So I suppose I'll keep it if I dont have much use for 200k cash out, and sell it only if I see a better opportunity.

Might not move into Zest coz I oso bought TS is closer to where I currently live and work, and TS should be completed earlier VS Zest and has similar specs. Its still a possibility, but a remote one.

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Added on September 23, 2009, 5:35 pmThank you for ur kind consideration boss

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Future JMB president must belanja

Looks like the showroom is coming up nicely. Lets be patient and hopefully TT will come out with an acceptable show unit when its ready.

btw guys, on the tiles issues, pls note that it is the BUYERS responsibility to ensure that all the hollow tiles are removed and replaced upon CF and BEFORE the DLP is over. Remember that developer can still hold their main con accountable to fix these problems before DLP is over, but not after.

After DLP, we r on our own. Its sad but this a flaw in the system and this happens in million dollar condo's as well.

Both TS and TZ is a high density development, so there might be some waterfish seller selling for less than 300k upon CF........... ;p

if got below 300k I oso want to makan

Im gonna sell mine at just 10% below SW's price psf. So if SW is asking RM500psf, I'll just let go my unit at RM450psf.......veli cheap

its 250k for me, hehehe. Well it all depends on how well SW does. Think at the end of the day, Zest real value will be pegged at 10% below SW's or if we are lucky............will be on par with SW.


Thats why if SW can sell >400psf, I'll be veli-veli happy

Like i said, this depends on SW. If SW sells their last remaining unit at RM500psf, why shouldnt we sell Zest which is just 2 stations away at the very least RM450sqf? After all, if dev gives what they promises us, Zest is a better product due to :

1. 2 carparks.
2. Better build spec.
3. MUCH better facilities.
4. Lower density. (in a way )
5. For some, Zest has better access (especially those working in KL)

No harm to dream

this one Eugene has answered, but also like to point out one more point, u r comparing commercials n residentials. For commercials, ppl tend to go for crowded places. More crowd, more business. And ppl pls correct me if im wrong, didnt the last few commercials lots in Zest were sold for above 2mil?

For residentials, not everyone fancies living on top of a bustling mall. Yuppies/bachelors/couples maybe, but families will not like it.

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Added on October 31, 2009, 1:54 amchief, as I was saying, Zest future price will be pegged to SW's future price. If SW having problem selling at Rm400psf, then no way Zest will be selling at RM450psf.

But remain confident IF TT developer delivers a decent product, the gap of pricing between Zest and SW not be as large as today. Worst case scenario is a 20% gap, so not too shabby at all

p/s : There's plenty of low cost flat nearby Five Stones as well, but didnt stop SDB from fully sold off 5 stones within 2 months of launch at min RM500psf

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Added on October 31, 2009, 2:13 amThis we'll know in 5 years time. Anyhow, the word "better" is subjective, its subject to individual preference and needs.

Market-forces will decide

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Added on October 31, 2009, 2:21 amIf im in optimistic "mode" I'll claim Zest will do RM500psf.

Now just in realistic mode.........

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Its not the question of confidence at all, its about facts and perceived value. Honestly, all my properties have exceed my expectation that I set when I bought them(on paper lah) . Im a fairly conservative investor woh......only go for sure win stuff....

In TZ's case, subjct to completion, anyhow we'll still "eat" seafood at least. If SW a success, that might help us add some nice abalone as well.

Noed n Backkom,

Thanks but I've been very "lucky" so far for being conservative BUT might not be as lucky in the future......

Anyhow, I hope the current property rally will continue till 2012.....

15th Nov is the opening dates fir showroom? Is this for real this time?

Also Zest is only 1 or 2 stations away from IOI Mall ............

agree. Without LRT available, very diff to rent out for 2k per month.


Think this Zest has to hold for min 6 years to reach is optimal value.

boss, all the above got no LRT leh............

and neither of these condo's located within walking vicinity of the Kelana Jaya LRT station.....its about 2 KM away and easily takes you 15-20min walk........

Look at Seri Maya/Savannah etc would be a more accurate comparison

Actually, should the LRT materializes I see one big advantage that Zest have over Seri Maya..........so personally think the comparison isnt totally unfounded. Anyhow no point arguing this now, lets just see what happens 5 years down the road

If you have visited VK, its not rocket science to understand why prices have gone stagnant over the years. Also, Pantai Panorama condo is doing exceptionally well for a 12 yr old condo, opposite of VK. Do you know why?