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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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chyaw
post Aug 13 2009, 04:07 PM

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Cherroy Tai Kor always gives very good advice"! thumbup.gif
I'm still hibernating... yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 13 2009, 04:01 PM)
In stock market, what investors most concern is the ability of the company generate profit, not about what they owned (important also, but more secondary).

Just like BAT has nothing in their book, but every year it can generate lot of profit and dividend to its shareholders, which make lot of people want to own it eventually higher share price.

So back to a property company, it might have lot of land, but those just vacant land which generate nothing to the company, so investors are less interest compared to BAT as above example, so lower share price.
The situation is as same as a shoplot, you can own a shoplot at 500K but no tenant, so even at your book worth 500K, it is a liabilities as it generate nothing while need to pay quit rent and assessment every year. So it is not right for investors to buy the equivalent 500K bookvalue (or NTA) althought those properites might have potential for appreciation.
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:08 PM

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Q 71.5 no hope, suddenly moved to 73.5, then 74
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:11 PM

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IF lands in KL and PJ got no value, whereas got VALUE ONE ?
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:12 PM

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im having itchy fingers to buy something... any recomendations from PRO's.....???????
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Neon_ @ Aug 13 2009, 04:12 PM)
im having itchy fingers to buy something... any recomendations from PRO's.....???????
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buy Mopiko.
chyaw
post Aug 13 2009, 04:14 PM

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Got value, just that it is like putting gold under the bed. If gold appreciate, and you sell it, you'll get 1 time gain. The value doesn't generate constant income...



QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:11 PM)
IF lands in KL and PJ got no value, whereas got VALUE ONE ?
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:08 PM)
RCE CAP under attack.

Q 71.5 no hope, suddenly moved to 73.5, then 74
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i sell u 75..want? biggrin.gif
donno can go record high or not rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 13 2009, 04:14 PM)
Got value, just that it is like putting gold under the bed. If gold appreciate, and you sell it, you'll get 1 time gain. The value doesn't generate constant income...
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It is termed as hidden value by W Buffet icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Neon_ @ Aug 13 2009, 04:12 PM)
im having itchy fingers to buy something... any recomendations from PRO's.....???????
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:12 PM)
buy Mopiko.
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Good recommendation thumbup.gif laugh.gif

Type "mopiko" in stock name/code on the online portal, error generated. laugh.gif

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post Aug 13 2009, 04:21 PM

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swapping my reits for BTOTO. Queueing.

come come, give to me!


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post Aug 13 2009, 04:22 PM

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My term of hidden value is potential of generating more constant revenue instead of one time gain. biggrin.gif
In other words, I'm looking for growth. E.g. Latexx is growing very fast, so I see hidden value in it. blush.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:17 PM)
It is termed as hidden value by W Buffet icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:21 PM)
swapping my reits for BTOTO. Queueing.

come come, give to me!
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It'll go to you...
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:23 PM

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which reits u sold?
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 13 2009, 03:05 PM)
I think KNM and me does not work. Everytime I enter KNM sure bad luck.
No other share have been omen for me than KNM.

Die KNM die!
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ahhhh i agree i'm not gonna pump any into KNM for now. green shoots only grumble.gif

if average down wait until 7x only buy in.
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 13 2009, 04:22 PM)
My term of hidden value is potential of generating more constant revenue instead of one time gain.  biggrin.gif
In other words, I'm looking for growth. E.g. Latexx is growing very fast, so I see hidden value in it.  blush.gif
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Now i only know lands in Sarawak do not worth that much bcos

people treasure Latexx more. hmm.gif

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post Aug 13 2009, 04:27 PM

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Buy BJTOTO-CD brows.gif brows.gif
Very high gearing! drool.gif

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 13 2009, 04:21 PM)
swapping my reits for BTOTO. Queueing.

come come, give to me!
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:27 PM

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post Aug 13 2009, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 13 2009, 04:27 PM)
Buy BJTOTO-CD brows.gif  brows.gif
Very high gearing!  drool.gif
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You said you are not discussing warrants here anymore, liar! LOL Jk tongue.gif
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QUOTE(htt @ Aug 13 2009, 04:22 PM)
It'll go to you...
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Aug 13 2009, 04:23 PM)
which reits u sold?
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Arreit. got 4.2% DPU plus kacang kulit profit.
too slow to my liking. (comparing to other reits)


QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 13 2009, 04:25 PM)
ahhhh i agree i'm not gonna pump any into KNM for now. green shoots only grumble.gif

if average down wait until 7x only buy in.
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lets wait below 80 sens. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(enji @ Aug 13 2009, 04:27 PM)
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Have been waiting for this breakout from a quite long Dbox since 1.5 weeks ago ! Finally... rclxms.gif

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