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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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post Aug 12 2009, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 12 2009, 12:08 AM)
Never mind.....you are not alone...
Me too holding SAG, SCUMMY and LIONCRAP......
Dragging my average down something wicked..... hmm.gif
Think a few of us on here are on the same boat with you....
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lol.. lioncrap.. i m now trapped by it also.. making me no more liquidity.. besides lioncrap(0.515).. i also trapped by compugates(0.112).. iris(0.205)... i just can sit n watch nowadays.. sad.gif
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NAS 1969.73 -22.51 -1.13%
S&P500 -994.35 -12.75 -1.27%

Hurrah!! Two days in the roll! Bears 2 Bulls 0
My shorts are green again!!! rclxms.gif

I'm beginning to like this! rclxm9.gif
I've sent my compliments to General Bear and his red army battalion!

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 12 2009, 04:15 AM)
DJ 9241.45 -96.50 -1.03%
NAS 1969.73 -22.51 -1.13%
S&P500 -994.35 -12.75 -1.27%

Hurrah!! Two days in the roll!  Bears 2  Bulls 0
My shorts are green again!!!  rclxms.gif

I'm beginning to like this!  rclxm9.gif
I've sent my compliments to General Bear and his red army battalion!
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

looks like u r waiting for correction tongue.gif
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 12 2009, 04:22 AM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

looks like u r waiting for correction tongue.gif
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Of course... what goes up, must come down.

Anyway, I'm tired of riding the bulls. I want to ride the bears. biggrin.gif



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i rather hugging the bears laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2009, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 12 2009, 12:12 AM)
1) Jason said many people is thinking the current price is high and wait for it to drop further down but at the end, these people are the one that buying at price higher than the current one

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Axreit is good for dividend purposes, if don't mind currency value depreciation. I will buy Axreit if i have enough bullets  tongue.gif
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I was merely saying that most people thought price were high, but in the end jump in higher when they see market continue to rally. This is what I observe. So, I will just buy if the price is right, I don't wait for correction or whatsever, thinking the market could collapse as low as possible, because I'm no God. I dunno when it will end and move the other direction


Added on August 12, 2009, 7:50 am
QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 12 2009, 05:06 AM)
i rather hugging the bears laugh.gif
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I dun minde bear hug drool.gif drool.gif ....especially by pretty girls

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UALA LUMPUR: Templeton Asset Management Ltd is targeting emerging market consumers and commodities as its investment themes.

“With consumers, there’s simply more of them in the emerging markets (than the rest of the world), and they shop. The potential for sales of new products, in markets such as China and India, is tremendous,” its executive chairman Mark Mobius said on Aug 11.

He said equities markets were in a very bullish trend now and cheap emerging market stocks presented attractive investments.

Addressing the World Capital Markets Symposium yesterday, he said commodity prices, which had retreated since record highs last year, would trend upwards, judging from the recovery in prices.

“We will continue to see lots of fluctuations, but the trend will be going upwards,” he said.

As for commodities, he said palladium was trading at a great discount and it was needed for car manufacturing. The price of palladium had risen from US$192.50 per ounce in January this year to US$273.75 yesterday.

Mobius said confidence in emerging markets was on the rise, as shown by emerging market bond yields over US treasuries, which were shrinking.

“Confidence in emerging markets is increasing, and we don’t see an end to that anytime soon,” he said.

However, a risk to emerging markets included inflation, as central banks would have a natural inclination to hike interest rates and that would dampen interest in equities and debt markets.

Mobius was upbeat about the outlook for corporate earnings next year, describing the way ahead as “very, very bright”, as the downturn forced companies to be cautious on costs and expenses, which would boost profitability.

He noted companies would report disappointing results but there would be a recovery next year, leading to very impressive percentage increases in earnings, which would in turn, drive optimism higher.

Speaking to reporters after the presentations, he advised banks to resume lending and assist companies, especially small- and medium-sized enterprises and reschedule loans.

On the continuing stream of “bad news” about the global economy, he said this was “looking through the rear view mirror.”

However, he expected more good news, while stock market prices would also be a good indication of an economic recovery.

“In the emerging markets, keep an eye on prices. Stock prices are up, in tandem with expectations earnings will improve,” he said.
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I think you also need to post Mark Mobius comment that the stocks will plunge 30% soon just to fair and prevent people being too delusion ed that everything will rise to no end. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Aug 12 2009, 01:42 AM)
lol.. lioncrap.. i m now trapped by it also.. making me no more liquidity.. besides lioncrap(0.515).. i also trapped by compugates(0.112).. iris(0.205)... i just can sit n watch nowadays.. sad.gif
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If you realize, most investors are actually losing money because they:-
1. Sell good stocks too early
2. Keep speculative stocks too long
3. Dunno when to cut loss
4. When panic selling, selling good stocks but keeping speculative stocks which drop at faster rate

Most of us make these mistakes over and over again doh.gif


Added on August 12, 2009, 8:08 am
QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 12 2009, 08:04 AM)
SKY,

I think you also need to post Mark Mobius comment that the stocks will plunge 30% soon just to fair and prevent people being too delusion ed that everything will rise to no end.  biggrin.gif
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Well, you can post it up, if you want.

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Hi Kmarc.

I'm still here more on reading nia. biggrin.gif
Didn't write much coz there are alot other expert sharing their good stocks ady.

MPHB, LIONIND, KFIMA and RCECAP comeback cheong quite strong recently. My fav MPHB up the most sia..
Sealink also ok but abit slow. Just reinvest back my Sealink 8K++ div avg price to 0.815.
Its quarter report out end of this month, should be a good results. icon_idea.gif


Can pm me if need assistant.

Cheers,
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 11 2009, 03:06 PM)
Dunno. I buy because I follow uncle sam.

Last time buy because I follow viper88....... dunno where he is now.... missing in action....  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 12 2009, 08:04 AM)
SKY,

I think you also need to post Mark Mobius comment that the stocks will plunge 30% soon just to fair and prevent people being too delusion ed that everything will rise to no end.   biggrin.gif
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You need to be Fair also.

Traditionally bulls would be sidelines before any Fed meetings. So bears took the advantages but the volume traded is thin.

After Fed meeting , the bulls would be back in full swing.

Bears could have some Happy Hours, but not too long. biggrin.gif


Added on August 12, 2009, 8:18 amKUALA LUMPUR: Trading is expected to be lacklustre except for a few stocks on Aug 12 as investors' sentiment is expected to be dampened by the overnight fall on Wall Street.

On Wall Street, stocks fell after a prominent banking analyst warned the sector's fundamentals have yet to improve, and an unexpectedly large drop in wholesale inventories raised worries about an economic recovery.

The drop in US wholesale inventories in June, which was nearly double expectations, showed businesses remained sceptical about a return in demand.

At Bursa Malaysia, stocks which could see some trading interest are banks including BCHB and AMMB.

BCHB is scheduled to release its second results after market close while AMMB put up a strong performace in its 1Q results ended June 30.

AMMB's 1Q earnings rose 27% to RM258.24 million, up from RM202.91 million a year ago, boosted by its strong investment banking business

UAC said its net profit rose to RM5.9 million for 2Q ended June 30, 2009 from RM4.9 million a year ago due to stronger demand for its products due to restocking of inventory by customers and also the substantial gains on disposal of shares. The board declared a gross dividend per share of 12 sen.

Scomi Marine's 2Q net profit rose 55% to RM22.48 from RM14.52 million a year ago, underpinned by improved margins through better operations management. Gross profit margin for the quarter was wider at 26.2% on lower bunker and docking expenses.

NSTP and Media Prima should see some trading interest on expectations that Media Prima would take the newspaper publisher private via a share swap exercise.

AmResearch said Media Prima's FY10F's net earnings should improve 20%, resulting in net effect of 5% earnings dilution.

"This would also avoid earnings leakages from NSTP as we expect NSTP's earnings rebounding from an estimated RM5 million in FY09F to RM39 million in FY11F.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 12 2009, 08:16 AM)
You need to be Fair also.

Traditionally bulls would be sidelines before any Fed meetings. So bears took the advantages but the volume traded is thin.

After Fed meeting , the bulls would be back in full swing.

Bears could have some Happy Hours, but not too long. biggrin.gif


Added on August 12, 2009, 8:18 amKUALA LUMPUR: Trading is expected to be lacklustre except for a few stocks on Aug 12 as investors' sentiment is expected to be dampened by the overnight fall on Wall Street.

On Wall Street, stocks fell after a prominent banking analyst warned the sector's fundamentals have yet to improve, and an unexpectedly large drop in wholesale inventories raised worries about an economic recovery.

The drop in US wholesale inventories in June, which was nearly double expectations, showed businesses remained sceptical about a return in demand.

At Bursa Malaysia, stocks which could see some trading interest are banks including BCHB and AMMB.

BCHB is scheduled to release its second results after market close while AMMB put up a strong performace in its 1Q results ended June 30.

AMMB's 1Q earnings rose 27% to RM258.24 million, up from RM202.91 million a year ago, boosted by its strong investment banking business

UAC said its net profit rose to RM5.9 million for 2Q ended June 30, 2009 from RM4.9 million a year ago due to stronger demand for its products due to restocking of inventory by customers and also the substantial gains on disposal of shares. The board declared a gross dividend per share of 12 sen.

Scomi Marine's 2Q net profit rose 55% to RM22.48 from RM14.52 million a year ago, underpinned by improved margins through better operations management. Gross profit margin for the quarter was wider at 26.2% on lower bunker and docking expenses.

NSTP and Media Prima should see some trading interest on expectations that Media Prima would take the newspaper publisher private via a share swap exercise.

AmResearch said Media Prima's FY10F's net earnings should improve 20%, resulting in net effect of 5% earnings dilution.

"This would also avoid earnings leakages from NSTP as we expect NSTP's earnings rebounding from an estimated RM5 million in FY09F to RM39 million in FY11F.
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What you say is quite true. Traditionally market stays sideline or at least drop before the Fed meets.
The bolded part:- rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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I see red red screen now....
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Red alert

I saw some charging to green

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 12 2009, 08:16 AM)
You need to be Fair also.

Traditionally bulls would be sidelines before any Fed meetings. So bears took the advantages but the volume traded is thin.

After Fed meeting , the bulls would be back in full swing.

Bears could have some Happy Hours, but not too long. biggrin.gif


Added on August 12, 2009, 8:18 amKUALA LUMPUR: Trading is expected to be lacklustre except for a few stocks on Aug 12 as investors' sentiment is expected to be dampened by the overnight fall on Wall Street.

On Wall Street, stocks fell after a prominent banking analyst warned the sector's fundamentals have yet to improve, and an unexpectedly large drop in wholesale inventories raised worries about an economic recovery.

The drop in US wholesale inventories in June, which was nearly double expectations, showed businesses remained sceptical about a return in demand.

At Bursa Malaysia, stocks which could see some trading interest are banks including BCHB and AMMB.

BCHB is scheduled to release its second results after market close while AMMB put up a strong performace in its 1Q results ended June 30.

AMMB's 1Q earnings rose 27% to RM258.24 million, up from RM202.91 million a year ago, boosted by its strong investment banking business

UAC said its net profit rose to RM5.9 million for 2Q ended June 30, 2009 from RM4.9 million a year ago due to stronger demand for its products due to restocking of inventory by customers and also the substantial gains on disposal of shares. The board declared a gross dividend per share of 12 sen.

Scomi Marine's 2Q net profit rose 55% to RM22.48 from RM14.52 million a year ago, underpinned by improved margins through better operations management. Gross profit margin for the quarter was wider at 26.2% on lower bunker and docking expenses.

NSTP and Media Prima should see some trading interest on expectations that Media Prima would take the newspaper publisher private via a share swap exercise.

AmResearch said Media Prima's FY10F's net earnings should improve 20%, resulting in net effect of 5% earnings dilution.

"This would also avoid earnings leakages from NSTP as we expect NSTP's earnings rebounding from an estimated RM5 million in FY09F to RM39 million in FY11F.
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copy pasta? and mah sing will be suspended for todays trading...
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 12 2009, 09:03 AM)
copy pasta? and mah sing will be suspended for todays trading...
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Speaking of Mah Sing, you have any idea why?


Added on August 12, 2009, 9:05 amRed charging green....I have a feeling some counters start in red might end in green, while some will be the opposite

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 12 2009, 09:04 AM)
Speaking of Mah Sing, you have any idea why?


Added on August 12, 2009, 9:05 amRed charging green....I have a feeling some counters start in red might end in green, while some will be the opposite
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copy pasta too...

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Mah Sing requests for trading suspension

KUALA LUMPUR: Trading in MAH SING GROUP BHD [ MAHSING  0.000  0.000 (0.000%)  Stock Summary
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] shares will be suspended today at the company's request, pending a material announcement.

In its Bursa Malaysia filing after market close yesterday, the property developer did not indicate the material development it would be announcing. Market watchers, however, said it could be related to a sizeable acquisition.

As at end-March this year, Mah Sing had cash and bank balances of RM26.4 million while its deposits with licensed banks stood at RM127.9 million. With its strong cash hoard, Mah Sing could boost its landbank via acquisitions.

For the first three months of financial year 2009, Mah Sing posted a net profit of RM22.6 million on the back of RM150.3 million revenue. Compared to a year earlier, Mah Sing's net profit was only marginally better despite revenue increasing by 6.8%.

In the notes accompanying its financial results, Mah Sing said: "The group's healthy balance sheet and low gearing of 0.13 times as at end-March 2009 allows it to plan ahead and acquire good landbank at the right timing."

Mah Sing had seen a run-up in its share price in recent weeks. However, its share price closed unchanged at RM1.99 yesterday.

On Monday, the stock hit its 52-week high of RM2.02. Since end-July, the stock has gained 15 sen or 8%.


souce:http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...suspension.html
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wow Maybank is further dropping, come drop more drool.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 12 2009, 09:09 AM)
wow Maybank is further dropping, come drop more drool.gif
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Ei, I thought you exited Pbbank to join Maybank??


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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 12 2009, 09:06 AM)
Seems like good news right? Will it cause limit up brows.gif ? hmm.gif

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