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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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zamans98
post Aug 11 2009, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 11 2009, 10:47 PM)
u mean fraudie mac and phoney fae? biggrin.gif
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yes, indeed.
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM

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Dear Sifus,
Need your precious advice. I'm new to share investment (less than 10months). My bullets are limited and i'm only able to buy bit by bit. Below is my portfolio (units x average price bought):
HARTA 1,000 3.500
ANNJOO 1,000 2.160
DIALOG 2,000 1.130
PANTECH 3,000 0.797
RCECAP 4,000 0.585
IOICORP 2,000 4.010
KNM 7,000 0.645
TEBRAU 2,000 0.805
SCOMI 3,000 0.698
UEMLAND 2,000 1.535
DELEUM 1,000 1.680
YTLPOWR 1,000 2.190
currently using hlebroking and current return is about 18%.
so my questions are:
1) is my portfolio too diversified/spread out?
2) is it a "waste" to buy just 1000 units? what is the recommended minimum units to buy for those less than RM1 and RM2 counters?
3) I'm more a buy-hold fella, always missed out the "sell on strength". what is your average profit target before selling it off?

feedback and suggestions are most welcome!
cheers,
kolabong
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 11 2009, 10:32 PM)
And most of the time, the stock that he chose rises because many of his followers bought the stocks he's suggesting smile.gif
And at other times, in general all stocks are rising in price, including the stock that he suggests.

I like reading to his blog, but I seldom buy the stocks that he suggests, because most of the time the price has surged, dun want to kejar, lol
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Spot on.
It becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy....innit nod.gif


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:16 pm
QUOTE(kolabong @ Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM)
Dear Sifus,
Need your precious advice. I'm new to share investment (less than 10months). My bullets are limited and i'm only able to buy bit by bit. Below is my portfolio (units x average price bought):
HARTA 1,000 3.500
ANNJOO  1,000 2.160
DIALOG  2,000 1.130
PANTECH 3,000 0.797
RCECAP  4,000 0.585
IOICORP  2,000 4.010
KNM  7,000 0.645
TEBRAU  2,000 0.805
SCOMI 3,000 0.698
UEMLAND  2,000 1.535
DELEUM 1,000 1.680
YTLPOWR 1,000 2.190
currently using hlebroking and current return is about 18%.
so my questions are:
1) is my portfolio too diversified/spread out?
2) is it a "waste" to buy just 1000 units? what is the recommended minimum units to buy for those less than RM1 and RM2 counters?
3) I'm more a buy-hold fella, always missed out the "sell on strength". what is your average profit target before selling it off?

feedback and suggestions are most welcome!
cheers,
kolabong
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Beyond my wildest dreams...... thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 11 2009, 11:16 PM
ts1
post Aug 11 2009, 11:23 PM

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post Aug 11 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 11 2009, 09:57 PM)
wow the bears are coming out for food tonite! drool.gif

claw claw claw!

dow fall 0.72% at the moment.
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Bears eating Sugar Puffs with honey before go back to sleep in the cave... nod.gif
zamans98
post Aug 11 2009, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(kolabong @ Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM)
Dear Sifus,

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feedback and suggestions are most welcome!
cheers,
kolabong
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1) Hell no, its good. Maybe need to add 1 or more FINANCE stock. When rally really takes off, FINANCE STOCK will fly first
2) No, it is not a waste. You buy based on your means
3) I sell as long I see profit. Because for me, I will never knows what it will be in future. Except YTL, IOI can hold long long term

Not bad, almost 31K capital, now almost 37K..
I envy your KNM, RCE

This post has been edited by zamans98: Aug 11 2009, 11:29 PM
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(kolabong @ Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM)
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your return is a lot more than mine~~ congrats! thumbup.gif
you are inclined towards O&G, just my opinion
kolabong
post Aug 11 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM)


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:16 pm
You are Rich! Rich!! Rich!!!

Beyond my wildest dreams...... thumbup.gif
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aiyo..compared to you guys is nothing lo. problem is that they are just paper gain. have to learn how to realize them effectively.
of coz have to thank you guys for your daily sharing and I have learnt a lot. Let's grow and grow!! flex.gif
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ts1 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:23 PM)
dun have axreit in portfolio, failed besar besar
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aiya, dun shoot him...
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:27 PM)
1) Hell no, its good. Maybe need to add 1 or more FINANCE stock. When rally really takes off, FINANCE STOCK will fly first
2) No, it is not a waste. You buy based on your means
3) I sell as long I see profit. Because for me, I will never knows what it will be in future. Except YTL, IOI can hold long long term

Not bad, almost 31K capital, now almost 37K..
I envy your KNM, RCE
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Yes.
Kolabong has a very good portfolio for the current environment. Wish mine was as balanced.... hmm.gif
zamans98
post Aug 11 2009, 11:34 PM

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Dear SIFU, I need help.

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Should I dumped all my shares and moved to US? flex.gif


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post Aug 11 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kolabong @ Aug 11 2009, 11:29 PM)
aiyo..compared to you guys is nothing lo. problem is that they are just paper gain. have to learn how to realize them effectively.
of coz have to thank you guys for your daily sharing and I have learnt a lot. Let's grow and grow!! flex.gif
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The only thing I would say - and it's purely a personal opinion - is that I would look to let go of ANJOO and replace with another steel or commodity counter and I would ditch DIALOG as soon as you've made an average profit and reduce your O&G exposure - maybe another financial counter as someone suggested. hmm.gif

Just my opinion. icon_rolleyes.gif
I am stupid.
You should not take any notice of anything I say or write.
i should be certified and locked up in a mental hospital for failed investors..etc. etc...


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:36 pm
QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:34 PM)
Dear SIFU, I need help.

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Should I dumped all my shares and moved to US?  flex.gif
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No.
Keep all your shares and move to US and get a job at US$500K p.a. for a year or so.....Problem solved! icon_idea.gif

This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 11 2009, 11:36 PM
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:40 PM

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As on 11 Aug, 11:32am (US Time)

Dow 9,233.81 -104.14 -1.12%

Nasdaq 1,964.64 -27.60 -1.39%

S&P 500 993.98 -13.12 -1.30%

10 Yr Bond(%) 3.7050% -0.0660

Oil 68.92 -1.68 -2.38%

Gold 943.80 -1.20 -0.13%

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post Aug 11 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(kolabong @ Aug 11 2009, 11:13 PM)
Dear Sifus,
Need your precious advice. I'm new to share investment (less than 10months). My bullets are limited and i'm only able to buy bit by bit. Below is my portfolio (units x average price bought):
HARTA 1,000 3.500
ANNJOO  1,000 2.160
DIALOG  2,000 1.130
PANTECH 3,000 0.797
RCECAP  4,000 0.585
IOICORP  2,000 4.010
KNM  7,000 0.645
TEBRAU  2,000 0.805
SCOMI 3,000 0.698
UEMLAND  2,000 1.535
DELEUM 1,000 1.680
YTLPOWR 1,000 2.190
currently using hlebroking and current return is about 18%.
so my questions are:
1) is my portfolio too diversified/spread out?
2) is it a "waste" to buy just 1000 units? what is the recommended minimum units to buy for those less than RM1 and RM2 counters?
3) I'm more a buy-hold fella, always missed out the "sell on strength". what is your average profit target before selling it off?

feedback and suggestions are most welcome!
cheers,
kolabong
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1. Almost all ONG counters - not diversified enough
2. The best is invest within your means
3. If you are more of buy-hold fella, no need to sell, if the profit too little. But then again, judging at your portfolio, you are more of hit and run type. Most of your counters are hit and run type. Believe me, if there is earthquake in KLCI, most of your holdings can easily drop 50% of your buy price. Only about 2-3 counters can hold tight

Just my opinion though. Maybe you can reduce some ONG counters, but then again, I could be wrong. Just not my cup of tea investing heavily on one sector.
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 11 2009, 11:34 PM)


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:36 pm
No.
Keep all your shares and move to US and get a job at US$500K p.a. for a year or so.....Problem solved! icon_idea.gif
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trying to, but since economy downturn, my company won't allow cross-border assignment / transfer.
Else, I wanna go to US. (err but NYSE is like FOREX, very risky)

So, now stuck with SNAIL market, unique.

HINT: The company Share price today in NYSE (Real-Time: 51.23 Up 0.24 (0.47%) 11:31am ET)




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post Aug 11 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 11 2009, 11:40 PM)
As on 11 Aug, 11:32am (US Time)

Dow 9,233.81 -104.14 -1.12%

Nasdaq 1,964.64 -27.60 -1.39%

S&P 500 993.98 -13.12 -1.30%

10 Yr Bond(%) 3.7050% -0.0660

Oil 68.92 -1.68 -2.38%

Gold 943.80 -1.20 -0.13%
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Are you related to DOOMCAKE by any chance? laugh.gif

We never get posts like this when the numbers are positive.... hmm.gif

This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 11 2009, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:42 PM)
trying to, but since economy downturn, my company won't allow cross-border assignment / transfer.
Else, I wanna go to US. (err but NYSE is like FOREX, very risky)

So, now stuck with SNAIL market, unique.

HINT: The company Share price today in NYSE (Real-Time: 51.23 Up 0.24 (0.47%) 11:31am ET)
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Wah....looking at your portfolio as of now, seems like losing a lot of money. Maybe a reset of portfolio, balance out with more stable and long term counters. I see that you bought SeaLink at quite high price also sweat.gif


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 11 2009, 11:45 PM)
Are you related to DOOMCAKE by any chance? laugh.gif

We never get posts like this when the numbers are positive.... hmm.gif
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Maybe they are shorting the market. But in KLCI, if you want to short, have to ask Mr #1 man

This post has been edited by jasontoh: Aug 11 2009, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:42 PM)
trying to, but since economy downturn, my company won't allow cross-border assignment / transfer.
Else, I wanna go to US. (err but NYSE is like FOREX, very risky)

So, now stuck with SNAIL market, unique.

HINT: The company Share price today in NYSE (Real-Time: 51.23 Up 0.24 (0.47%) 11:31am ET)
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Oh!
I think the NYSE is a very good market to invest in...much more reliable data, much more transparency, better regulation and NO monkey tricks....


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 11 2009, 11:46 PM)
Wah....looking at your portfolio as of now, seems like losing a lot of money. Maybe a reset of portfolio, balance out with more stable and long term counters. I see that you bought SeaLink at quite high price also  sweat.gif


Added on August 11, 2009, 11:47 pm
Maybe they are shorting the market. But in KLCI, if you want to short, have to ask Mr #1 man
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We can always rely on Jason to bring a ray of sunshine to our deliberations! rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 11 2009, 11:50 PM
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post Aug 11 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 11 2009, 11:45 PM)
Are you related to DOOMCAKE by any chance? laugh.gif

We never get posts like this when the numbers are positive.... hmm.gif
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but compare to previous days, todya US' boards are going down....straight down




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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 11 2009, 11:51 PM)
but compare to previous days, todya US' boards are going down....straight down
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The scale is wrong...check the scale of the graph....... brows.gif

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