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ryujimitsui
post Aug 11 2009, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Aug 11 2009, 11:42 AM)
crap
we have more than enuf midfielders

carrick, scholes, giggs, fletcher, gibson, anderson, (owen hargreaves, ljajic, cleverly)

flanks - valencia, nani, PJS, obertan, (fabio, rafael, rooney if desperate)
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yeah we have alot..i agree with u. but we still need to rebuilt the team back now. in a few years maybe gigs and scholes will retired..and i think furgie planning to get the spaniard joining the club. because he know they got quality and he likes fast player.

btw i would like to see some charismatic player like cantona joining our club. its superb!! still remember those glory days..haha..more like taiko maa

We at Man Utd no habal espanol... ---> i dont think so..hehe..united got charisma notworthy.gif -- that y they got the biggest fans. tongue.gif why not we build our territory at spain. lol

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post Aug 11 2009, 12:51 PM

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and lampard saying any footballer wont kick away the ball on scoring opportunity when actually paolo di canio did kick the ball away when the opposing goalie was down injured.. he would has scored if he didnt kick the ball out of play
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post Aug 11 2009, 12:55 PM

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The lads dealt the matter well, especially Rooney ain't losing his temper in Wembley. I gotta admit Ballack is a genuine scumbag, guessing he's tempted to capture some media attention through that action since the former Germany captain seems like being so NOT productive present smile.gif

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post Aug 11 2009, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Aug 11 2009, 12:12 PM)
Well VDS didn't collide with anyone in that Bayern game which went to penalties.. then out of the blue, he required surgery and is out for 8 weeks.
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VDS injured his finger during the match. Club later confirmed it too. In Foster's case, nothing's said anywhere.
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post Aug 11 2009, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Aug 11 2009, 12:51 PM)
and lampard saying any footballer wont kick away the ball on scoring opportunity when actually paolo di canio did kick the ball away when the opposing goalie was down injured.. he would has scored if he didnt kick the ball out of play
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from there u can differentiate a class player and a piece of crap
although i admit in united there's no similar player also

we lost on penalty and lost the shield
we won on penalty and won the UCL cup

chelsea's cabinet is very empty . we need to spare some space for big ears.

period. full stop. kthxbye.

stop talking about it anymore. it doesn't matter.

Rhadykall
post Aug 11 2009, 01:10 PM

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The big deal about the whole elbow thing was not the fact that Chelsea didn't stop the game. They're not at fault if we're talking about stopping play. We don't stop too when there's an opposing player down. Teams can stop but they're not obliged to. Professionally they shouldn't, as it's the job of the referee to stop the play when players go down injured.

What we're pissed off about is the fact that Mister Foy was inconsistent with his decisions. Stopped the game in favour of Chelsea BUT when United was caught in similar circumstances, he didn't blow the whistle.

Heck, our players get yellow carded for petty first/second time fouls when that Ivanovic dude got away with lots of fouls before getting his yellow. Berbatov's - first foul and it was a soft one at that. Evra's - he got the effing ball LIKE Terry did when he took down Nani so why do we see different outcomes? Owen's - don't tell me that was effing deliberate? Plus it was his effing first foul since he got onto the field.

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post Aug 11 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Aug 11 2009, 02:10 PM)
The big deal about the whole elbow thing was not the fact that Chelsea didn't stop the game. They're not at fault if we're talking about stopping play. We don't stop too when there's an opposing player down. Teams can stop but they're not obliged to. Professionally they shouldn't, as it's the job of the referee to stop the play when players go down injured.

What we're pissed off about is the fact that Mister Foy was inconsistent with his decisions. Stopped the game in favour of Chelsea BUT when United was caught in similar circumstances, he didn't blow the whistle.

Heck, our players get yellow carded for petty first/second time fouls when that Ivanovic dude got away with lots of fouls before getting his yellow. Berbatov's - first foul and it was a soft one at that. Evra's - he got the effing ball LIKE Terry did when he took down Nani so why do we see different outcomes? Owen's - don't tell me that was effing deliberate? Plus it was his effing first foul since he got onto the field.
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Yap..agreed...now you feel what WE felt against Barca...still I think the game is fair...cuz mistake of the ref is redeem by the mistake of the linesman...
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 11 2009, 01:18 PM)
Yap..agreed...now you feel what WE felt against Barca...still I think the game is fair...cuz mistake of the ref is redeem by the mistake of the linesman...
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Mister Foy choose to not make amends for his mistake by stating his awareness of the situation and still defended his action to do nothing - that stopped the Fa from looking deeper into the whole thing. Your Ballack admitted his actions BUT will not even get a slap on the wrist because of the so-called professional referee involved. By the way, what nonsense are you talking, bringing Barcelona into the equation? Last time I checked, only TWO ENGLISH teams were involved in the recently concluded Shield match.

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 11 2009, 12:26 PM)
the ref saw evra fall..and the ref doesn't stop the game..the game is on..we score...and how about the fault of the linesman...."offside goal"...come one dudes..enough is enough..
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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Aug 11 2009, 02:35 PM)
Two wrongs don't make a right. Mister Foy choose to not make amends for his mistake by stating his awareness of the situation and still defended his action to do nothing - that stopped the Fa from looking deeper into the whole thing. Your Ballack admitted his actions BUT will not even get a slap on the wrist because of the so-called professional referee involved. By the way, what nonsense are you talking, bringing Barcelona into the equation? Last time I checked, only TWO ENGLISH teams were involved in the recently concluded Shield match.
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Wow..cool down man..just bring an example of the referring crisis...just like Chelsea vs Barca..

Ballack admit is good things right..and he and evra have talked about it..


Anyway..Nani really gud..never realized it before maybe because of CR..

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post Aug 11 2009, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 11 2009, 01:42 PM)
Wow..cool down man..just bring an example of the referring crisis...just like Chelsea vs Barca..

Ballack admit is good things right..and he and evra have talked about it..
Anyway..Nani really gud..never realized it before maybe because of CR..
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ur siggy reminds me of how pissed i am looking at the reply what ballack do to evra...

by all means, does he really need to do that? he is not playing football he is playing body contact!

best ever signed? gosh.....

and he admitted, like telling the world.."hell yeah.. i did it on purpose, so what? i have been doing it... "

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look at the different body size between them and you can tell what happen...a simple touch can bring evra down...

*just for your info lah..best signed because he is free transfer yet contribute so much especially UCL stage..
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 11 2009, 01:42 PM)
Wow..cool down man..just bring an example of the referring crisis...just like Chelsea vs Barca..

Ballack admit is good things right..and he and evra have talked about it..
Anyway..Nani really gud..never realized it before maybe because of CR..
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Ballack admitting is not what we want now do we? By right, he SHOULD admit he did something wrong as he was at fault - you and I know there's no doubt about it. Main thing in this debate is still there, untouched. Chris Foy was an idiot during the Shield match, and thanks to that attribute of his on that very day, Chelsea and Ballack benefited while United were punished without any reason. Sure, when the game went into penalties it was ours to lose and sadly we did BUT fact is a certain Mister Foy and a certain Mister Ballack are both walking free when they shouldn't be.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 11 2009, 01:50 PM)
look at the different body size between them and you can tell what happen...a simple touch can bring evra down...

*just for your info lah..best signed because he is free transfer yet contribute so much especially UCL stage..
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I try to talk guys..and I still respect to the LYN ManU fans..so..dont talk like you on the gud side and i'm the bad one..football game itself is not fair..that is why they try to play FAIRPLAY....
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 11 2009, 01:56 PM)
I try to talk guys..and I still respect to the LYN ManU fans..so..dont talk like you on the gud side and i'm the bad one..football game itself is not fair..that is why they try to play FAIRPLAY....
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Were we not talking rationally since earlier then? I've been keeping myself in check, not deviating from the main debate. Have you? I won't be the judge here. It's your own action, so I'll let you be your own judge. The others may question your motive for being here way more than I do. That is their right. But I have been attending to you so why be sour and make judgments based on assumptions?

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enuf said...i think the reff is getting worst every year...dont know how they gonna improved it...its human that make mistake...we cant run from it..but they r proffesional rite...at least they can minimize the mistake...still cant figure out how to make better of this game...but the red devil gonna take it as we did many times before...we gonna come back strong...
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post Aug 11 2009, 02:21 PM

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There, Ichighost, all your supposedly positive conversations have been tainted by your fellow Blue fella here. Keep them in check please.
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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Aug 11 2009, 01:00 PM)
VDS injured his finger during the match. Club later confirmed it too. In Foster's case, nothing's said anywhere.
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The only collision i think would have been the one that resulted the first when he clattered into Drogba and Evra hmm.gif
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No doubt Foy should have blown for the foul on Evra as it was a deliberate block by Ballack (ref was looking str8 down at the incident) and it was a knock to the head. A head injury can be severe if immediate treatment is not given. All it takes is for a really serious accident to happen before the officials will begin to take notice. His inconsistency in decision-making is also strangely appalling. Berbatov gets booked for lifting a leg and blocking a free kick after 3 minutes, but Ivanovic gets away with a couple of bad fouls before going into the books. Ballack lays on his arse a few minutes before the Evra incident and the ref decides to stop play and deny us a good opportunity but allows the Evra one later. And that Carvalho foul on Owen towards the end was deliberate and dirty. I'm not blaming Chelsea in any way for not stopping play (though if they were a lil bit sporting they would have put it out to allow the medics onto the field to assess Evra, but hey, Chelsea aren't exactly the saints of the EPL) but rather how such a poor referee was allowed to officiate a match as big as this. End of the day, poor decisions even themselves out as Chelsea can testify after that "fecking disgrace"-ful semi final. and its just the Community Shield. Rewatching the Moscow final will remedy the pain of defeat.

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