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post Aug 16 2009, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 16 2009, 09:00 AM)
I see, so he wanted a pay rise to begin with and I'd agree that $150,000 a weeks is an exuberant sum for any player. That all being said then, it's purely a case of him being a greedy git. It's not uncommon these days for players to demand for a pay rise. We just got Torres to sign a new contract where he'll be paid $110,000 a week. Wages are rising rather alarmingly each season because players now know there are employers willing to part with lucrative sums of cash. If Tevez is indeed in it just for the money, I'm sure he won't mind spending time on the bench. A certain Wiston Bogarde and Harry Kewell come to mind.

That all being said, he may end up with a huge smile on his face come end of the season regardless of how much playing time he gets. I believe that City have made a wise decision when they decided to sign proven Premiership talent and thus, have a fairly decent change of breaking the monopoly of the 'top four'. It would have been more obvious that money was the sole determining factor had he signed last year when they had no superstars in the side.
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For me, it's the manner in which he left the club. He left on a sour note, presumably still fumed at the gaffer for his "lack" of starts and appearance. Unlike Ronaldo who express his gratitude to the club, Tevez bad-mouthed SAF which is unacceptable after he was given countless chance. I do think we tried to close down the loan deal before the summer break, but due to Kia involvement as well as greed that make it hard for the club to deal with him
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post Aug 16 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Aug 16 2009, 12:13 PM)
For me, it's the manner in which he left the club. He left on a sour note, presumably still fumed at the gaffer for his "lack" of starts and appearance. Unlike Ronaldo who express his gratitude to the club, Tevez bad-mouthed SAF which is unacceptable after he was given countless chance. I do think we tried to close down the loan deal before the summer break, but due to Kia involvement as well as greed that make it hard for the club to deal with him
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Judging by the timings of his negative press remarks, I don't think there was any way he'd accept the deal even if we've met Kia's price and offered him 160k per week. He's a coward, no way he'll want to face Fergie after all the things he has said.
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post Aug 16 2009, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 16 2009, 08:17 AM)
Maybe someone can help me here. Why is it you guys hate Tevez so much again?

I must admit I didn't follow his transfer saga too closely. All I remember is that he had wanted to leave after the end of last season because he felt he wasn't wanted by the club. He said he was frustrated at not being offered a permanent contract and he was left out of the team despite playing reasonably well. Later on, a contract was offered but by that time, he had already made up his mind to move away from Old Trafford. A month later, he moved to City. Is the frustration due to him moving to your cross town rivals or that he chose to move in general?
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I have no problems whatsoever with him deciding to move on from us to whichever teams he chooses if he feels that is best for his career, financially /& playing wise. To Liverpool, City, Leeds.. heck, it's his life and it's not like he owes us or something. I know the rivalry between those teams and us, but Tevez need to think whats best for him, and with us he'll never be a guaranteed starter, so if he wants to leave, fine by me(others might not be so forgiving though, just because of the rivalry, but you would understand that). Very good player, but in his position we have two equally as good if not better players than him. And frankly last season, his form didn't warrant any starting guarantees.

What people hate him for is his lack of respect to SAF/club with his comments in his last few months, and during the summer. He said we lack respect because we didn't offer him a contract earlier. We didn't respect him because SAF didn't play him in every game, or in the big games(he started a lot of them in the final run in to the season), which is bullshit and who the f*** the he think he is demanding stuff like that. If he's so special, maybe he has a point, but he's just another good player at the club brimming with talented players as good and better than him. He should understand what it means to be in a squad as big as ours. If he's not happy being a squad player, fine enough, he can go because of 'wanting first team actions' reason, but don't spout bullshit he didn't get enough chances when if you look at the stats he starts as much as the other two strikers.

Okay, maybe we dragged the deal a little, but with the financial shit the world is going through right now, we might have wanted to lower the deal a bit with Kia over his transfer value, which is just fair really. As far as I know it was always going to be decided(the deal) at the end of last season going by the comments the club make throughout his time here. Tevez is just badly advised IMO, and he kicks up a fuss over it, which is just stupid on his part. He should know or rather try understand why we delay it.

Like I say, if he just decided to move on 'peacefully' nobody would hate him so much him going to a rival team. But he decided to open his mouth out and make it look like he was the victim. Thankfully people have brains and figure it out, which is why people just doesn't like him anymore, and him moving to City is just icing on the cake really..


Added on August 16, 2009, 12:50 pm
QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Aug 16 2009, 11:16 AM)
ADEBAYOR 1 TEVEZ 0 RObinho 0 SANTA 0 belamy 0  tongue.gif

the gunners send a signal to us that they r strong too

ski send signal that they r same as last season last minute winner

let see what pool goin to show us..

and what we r goin to do... sweat.gif
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We will draw the first game firing blanks and will continue to misfire till after the 10th game of the season. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 16 2009, 01:17 PM


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We will draw the first game firing blanks and will continue to misfire till after the 10th game of the season. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2009, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Aug 16 2009, 12:46 PM)

Added on August 16, 2009, 12:50 pmWe will draw the first game firing blanks and will continue to misfire till after the 10th game of the season. biggrin.gif
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And end up in the last 3/relegation zone again like last time out? laugh.gif sweat.gif

The heart cant bear much more "surprise" la..... icon_question.gif
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post Aug 16 2009, 02:52 PM

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There's a reason they call us slow starters. And we also generally do things the hard way. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2009, 03:00 PM

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Arsenal is finally looking matured biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2009, 03:00 PM

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post Aug 16 2009, 03:24 PM

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hehe, just got myself the away jersey laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Wan @ Aug 16 2009, 04:27 AM)
It's only the first game. Sometimes some team start real badly as shown over the years, some peak too early etc. I wouldn't look into it too much. but we know Arsenal have quality players, and they can pwned anyone on any given day. It's whether they have it to consistently challenge till the end of the season. If they can keep it safe at the back, they would do just that.

How I wish we play just now so we can get it over with. First game of the season(league). Seeing Chelsea nicked it late, and Arsenal trashing Everton really made me anxious for tomorrow's game. Last few seasons our attacking players were missing at the start of those seasons, which made us a bit dull going forward and fail to win the first game(s), but this time it's the defensive unit which is missing people. Hope we win.
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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Aug 16 2009, 03:24 PM)
hehe, just got myself the away jersey  laugh.gif
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You are soooo lucky ... *sigh*

You guys not making any predictions on the line up yet? smile.gif
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Rm259 is the nett price? No other lower price? blink.gif

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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Aug 16 2009, 04:43 PM)
Rm259 is the nett price? No other lower price? blink.gif
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really cant wait for tonight match.. miss watching our hero in action..

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QUOTE(EmaNLeTo @ Aug 16 2009, 05:23 PM)
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really cant wait for tonight match.. miss watching our hero in action..
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in 07/08 we won twice against birmingham with 1-0 scoreline
first one scored by ronaldo
2nd one scored by tevez, assisted by ronaldo (what a lovely assist too wub.gif )
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post Aug 16 2009, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Aug 16 2009, 12:46 PM)



Added on August 16, 2009, 12:50 pmWe will draw the first game firing blanks and will continue to misfire till after the 10th game of the season. biggrin.gif
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last 2 seasons we started off with a draw (to Birmingham and Newcastle) and that 2 seasons these 2 teams ended up relegated laugh.gif

so Birmingham don't want to draw this again ya? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Aug 16 2009, 05:50 PM)
last 2 seasons we started off with a draw (to Birmingham and Newcastle) and that 2 seasons these 2 teams ended up relegated  laugh.gif

so Birmingham don't want to draw this again ya?  whistling.gif
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Great stat laugh.gif Looking forward for tonight's match. Its cloudy today, hope Astro won't get affectd.
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Hey guy, any link to watch the match online ??? tonight ....
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Aug 16 2009, 05:50 PM)
last 2 seasons we started off with a draw (to Birmingham and Newcastle) and that 2 seasons these 2 teams ended up relegated  laugh.gif

so Birmingham don't want to draw this again ya?  whistling.gif
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its reading.. we won against birmingham twice.. see my above post

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