Hello all.. this is third time i complain someone within 1month...

I want to ask all... if the item lost on the shipment, how ya?

the story goes like this, someone offer me 5610 xm with posting through pm... he said he from nilai, so i guess i could buy 5610 xm n sell to my fren later... on 040809, i have bank in the money n waited for the phone... after i check the Airway Bill No, this shipment was only sent out on 050809, so the next day 060809, i recev the parcel...

i got shocked when i opened the parcel, there is only the earphone, there is no nokia 5610 xm inside that parcel.. so i complain to the seller that i did not recev any phone, just got the earphone...

when dealing with this forummer, he never said that i should be bear if anything happen to the postage, in case of anything lost or faulty.. so i agree to ask him to post the item to me... he said "dun worry la bro. u'll be satisfied i done a lot of trading before. the phone is good and it'll reach to u definitely

so now what ya?

he said he will complain to skynet.. is there any possibility to get refund from skynet? but skynet said, if sender didnt declare the item is handphone when posting, skynet will not refund anything, (because the seller declare as photo album which cost around rm20) so how???

help2...

can i ask for refund from the seller? (but the seller said he will not refund the money back)...
can i get refund from skynet?? ( but skynet said they will not responsible for any item lost, but if declare as phone when posting,might get refund)

how ya??

This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 8 2009, 01:58 PM

when i recev the envelope( the parcel), the seal area is easy to open up.. u dun have to take scissors to cut the envelope, just pull abit the seal n it open d...
haih..

The seller is ---->avengers88
The seller declare as photo album, because he said before this he also didnt declare as electronic item when posting to other buyer... haih... wait till i show u the discussion through pm...

But i already ask him to refund my money, he said he will not refund.. he will complain to skynet n wait till they refund the money.. so how ya..?

This is the collection of my PM with Avengers88

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3. ------> In the my 2nd reply, i type wrong, it should be U promise not I promise


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Added on August 8, 2009, 11:28 pmi check the package d... on the airway bill, the weight is 100gram... but i checked d on the net, the phone at least 111gram...

This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 8 2009, 11:28 PM

I dont know what to say... i pm the seller d... waiting for him to reply in this thread.. i just curious that the parcel is less than 100gram... haih... is it possoble to be less than 100 gram for that 5610 xm phone?? anyone have experience in packaging care to explain?

This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 9 2009, 09:13 AM

That why... phone always 100gram above... but now, i dont know whether the seller con me or the Roswell person take the phone... because the phone was sent to the Roswell on 040809, but the seller sent after 2pm, so the parcel will be sent to skynet nilai on 050809 (u can see here on SKYNET TRACKING) so now, the parcel is one day at Roswell shop, but as all know, the shop will never open the parcel, unless that person really2 want to steal that item inside the parcel...

This is the pic of the parcel document....


This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 9 2009, 11:25 AM

i know... whether the parcel is open by the roswell person or the seller... the seller said the envelope is new n bought before sent the parcel.. the question is.. the seal is really easy to open n got sum hair on the seal.. if the envelope is new, how come there is a hair on the seal.. ??let see the pic here...

he didnt open a thread for the phone.. he just pm me ...as u can see in my pm discussion..


who wanna do dna test for it? anyone can do free dna test? ihihi... i already suspect a con case here... shit''

hih..ya meh? i already pm u... but no reply.. hihi.. u bz selling other used phone..hihi


he send in abit hurry, coz i ask him so, i ask him to post on 040809 before the skynet take the item, but he send to Roswell after 2pm, so the parcel will only be collected on tomorrow (050809)...


ya right... y i did not think of that... but where can i 5610 xm for weight test... hmmm, but did skynet really confirm that they weighted the parcel ? because i heard, if the parcel feel so light, they didnt care to weight it, just put any small amount of weight... haihhh... how ya??

This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 9 2009, 02:48 PM

yeah... if he speaking the truth, im still the victim here, i think the seller should provide me a full refund to me... because, he is the seller, and im the buyer, and he did give a personal warranty for that phone for one week...haih.. how yaa?

Both parties lost? why should i lost something that i didnt get? he did sell the item for the lady(if he speaking the truth), he did get some commission i think, n then the item i didnt recev at all, then i have to loss another rm180?? but now if he really can provide me some refund i can accept d ( but if he provide me full refund, it will b great ), because i believe in this case, god want to show me something.. in Islam, we all said "takda rezeki"


yeah.. that true also.. we didnt know if the seller wanna con me, if he giving a half refund, obviously he get free money from that deal...and do we need this kinda person in this LYN??i dun think so..


really? is it 100gram price is different compare to 150gram? i thought below 500gram is same price.. can someone confirm this? because before this i always use poslaju and nationwide express, i notice that the price is same below 500gram... can someone reply n confirm this matter?if this true, seller(avengers88) should refund me full 100%.. am i rite? since avengers88 is senior member here..so,he should show some nice attitude here

P/S: my case on celcom_for sale @ Teo Woan Ching still not settle yet... and this happen to me.. haih.. two case in a row..damn!


This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 10 2009, 10:45 PM

The seller said the seal need to be tear up then u can get the item inside.. but i believe that the seal is just a simple double sided tape.. which is the normal white double sided tape... and got hair on it?? wth?? the seal can easily open, u dun need to tear, just pull abit only...

i think, i should go to the shop that he bought the envelope, buy a new one n try to seal the envelope, if the envelope cannot be easily open, meaning the seller con me rite?? am i rite??

really? i think no.. usually seal on envelope is not easily open, if got dust or hair dat can be easily open..

if send electronic item through courier must declare n insured insurance for that item...

haihhh... seller said he got exam paper until today... so i let him decide when is he going to report the complain to skynet... i dont know, like u guys said, skynet will not bother to entertain our report on lost item if we dun buy insurance for that electronic item rite... so for what the seller complain?? so guy.. give me some solution here...

im going to test the weight of the envelope+earphone+small box today... if the weight more that 100gram above.. meaning seller con me rite?
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i just called skynet nilai, i already ask the Person in Charge who handle this case, the weight is exactly 100gram, the driver name HAMDAN weighted the envelope n the parcel is 100gram only...damn!! this mean that skynet nilai is out of the list... only left avengers88r n Roswell Shop..

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Added on August 11, 2009, 4:28 pm-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i just go to courier service just now to borrow their scale... and i found out the envelope + earphone + small box inside the envelope = 45gram only... see this pic below... in the internet, 5610xm is 111gram... n jsut now also i try to put my 5800 xm which the weight is around 109 gram, after i put the 5800 xm + envelope + earphone + small box = around 155gram... so now how??



This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 11 2009, 05:30 PM

who is wrong here? skynet nilai ? or avengers88? or Roswell Shop??

This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 11 2009, 06:59 PM

ya lar... so now it ur responsibility for :

1. not declaring the item as electronic device... as ur fault n for me to responsibility to lost the money?? because if u declare the item as electronic device, then we can fight with the skynet for losing the phone n use the insurance to cover the lost.. but now, nothing u can do as complaining will only go into their customer service, but they will not refund anything..

2. using normal envelope to wrap the phone is quite cheappo way to send item safely to buyer.. if u said the envelope have bubble wrapping, i dun think the bubble tough enough to hold the pressure of pressing or fall... the seal was not good enough to seal the envelope, why dun u use ur own plastic beg to wrap wrap around the envelope?

3. selling the phone to me.. as a senior member, i think u should show some responsibility on the case happen here... if the phone was not recev to me as buyer, u should be responsible on what happen... i think if i on this situation, i will provide a full refund, because as a trader, i will not let people blacklist me n i will responsible for what happen...

let think some simple information... avengers88 as a seller, selling 5610 xm to k_eyezax, k_eyezax agreed to buy the item for rm350 including posting, which seller didnt declare as electronic item when posting using skynet n avengers88 never state posting risk will be bear by buyer (which avengers88 told us that buyer will responsible for itself without noticing) is that fair?? how come im alone to accept ur mistake n money lost? u n ur lady fren can freely don bother to think about my losses?

some more u said the phone will be definitely reach to me... so now the phone didnt reach to me at all... how can u explain that to me n to other forummer ?

so now, i think u should provide me a full refund of the phone... and if skynet give us a refund, u take it.. i dun want it... how that sound? u as the seller should be responsible for the dealing process, not me as ur customer to take n accept ur mistake.. am i right?

the picture above clearly show that the item not even reach 100gram for envelope + earphone + small box...
i believe that the person who scale the parcel will never change the weight, no reason for him to change the weight.. right?? i n already called skynet nilai, that they exactly scale the parcel n wrote the amount without changing the amount... the amount of the parcel should be around 150-160 gram.... 45gram (envelope+earphone+small box), 111gram for 5610 xm phone... it alot different between 100gram and 160gram... let say if the person want to change the amount, may be from 106gram---->100gram... not 160gram--->100gram.. once again, am i right??

so now avengers88, give some answer, dun have to push around...

solution no 1: refund me a full amount... because i got 2 good reason for it
solution no 2: refund me a rm200 because u r not a good seller, not responsible type.. let buyer loss...

do i make my self clear?

This post has been edited by k_eyezax: Aug 12 2009, 02:02 AM

can i second this??

but truly madly deeply sincere here.. i would accept if u can refund me rm200... i accept my loss.. which is my loss is a gain for u, n for me to learn... nowadays really bad economy, im just trying to make some living, but people keep on taking advantage on me... maybe my mistake to let other take advantage on me...

so can me move on? avengers88.. pm me.. since u have finish ur exam... i respect u, i give u time for study n let u concentrate on ur study.. now hope u can respect me back by settle this out...

that y u have to provide n maintain good service n good relationship with customer.. once u be treated well, ull be remember always n customer will recommend u to others... am i rite?

Hello all reader..

i just recev rm200 from avengvers88 after discuss with him early morning today...

so now how ya? do i need to ask for my balance 150 from avengers88?

so what do u all suggest? im the total victim here... avengers88 said that lady is her auntie, ask him to sell the phone... he did not recev any commission for that phone...

i need all of ur suggestion here..?? thnx...

I know, I would accept rm200 for my mistake... but if i can get full refund it would be better.. in what cause i want to lost rm150 for nothing, rite?

Alright... case close...me and avengers88 will proceed with the complaining to SKYNET and Roswell Trading shop... Thanx for all your Help..

terbalik la nelsonboy..bg peha nk punggung..ape le... ok2..