11-Aug-2009 will be the ex-date for RM1.13 dividend for BAT....

These few days, BAT rally like a bull...... from its lowest point of 41.00 to 49.12 .......
what is going on?????

Tobacco industry was shrunk with the new pictorial that warned everyone that smoking is bad for health....
and this year Oct, there might be an increase in the taxes...etc.....

Thus when would be the sell down for this counter....

when see BAT , 1st come to my mind is ' no $ to play this counter "

Ya...indeed very expensive..... previously before lot size change to 100 shares...
the lot size is 1000 shares...and at 49.00 that will be RM49,000 is almost a Myvi car.....

but nowadays, at least lot size 1 = 100 shares = RM4,900 similar to a new 110 cc motorbike.....


But.... i see that this BAT.... never jalan.... now... it run like a bull.... probably it is a short marathon run...only...
probably will back to square one...

not everyone can afford buying this counter unless you are damn rich.
RM4900 for 1 lot!! real insane
even i dump everything i got to buy this share, i can buy not more than 100 lots.

haha, then I can buy about 20 lots.. still 1/5 of your lots.

Never Jalan is a wrong word to use on this stock, short term, may be.

I once bought this stock during 90's at Rm18.50. Now become Rm4x.xx, not yet count in around RM2-3 dividend each year.

But I don't have it now. Sold it with good profit after keep for sometime around RM25 or so (I forgot liao), may be at that time "too green" too short sighted, never realise or experience enough to know the long term benefit.

So if one kept this stock for years or decade, one is making good profit out of it, especially if accumulated 10+ year dividend alone, it should more than RM20 per share already, not yet on capital appreciation side.

My relative bought this stock last year, she is not damm rich, just ordinary working class people, she just bought 1 lot cost near 4K, she bought around Rm39 (roughly like that).

Don't tell me RM4k is not affordable for stock market kaki out there. No offence.

I don't see why cannot just buy 1 lot, you still invested 4K only, compared with buying 100 lots in 0.40 (which also 4K) some goreng stock never give dividend with poor fundamental which also 4K.

haha..
i think we used to buy penny stock, 1 time buy a few tenth or hundred thousands lots so feeling buying 1 lot seems to be a little weird..
but also can earn la..
your relative bought RM39, now around RM49, she already earn RM1000.
just that the profit margin not large, if she use the RM3900 to buy penny stock that moves UP, maybe she will get more than RM2000 in return, but there's a risk when buying penny stock

Haha, she bought it last year or so.

So if she used the 4K to buy those penny stock, high chance those 4K become 2K or less now.

A lot of people always think penny stock worth to bet on because a rise a few ten cents could mean severl ten % or 100 % rise. But how many people actually succeeding doing it? No offence.

Most either being burned or just earn a few then cabut already. Again no offence, just speaking out from experience and observation over the long term on most retail investor.

Penny stock also can go down one, not necessary must be up. In fact the risk of penny stock bursting is high though.

Don't mean penny stock is not worth, just things are not as simple as we taught.

Risk is different in both case. She made Rm1,000 steadily without much worry or looking at stock market.

Profit margin around teen number in % pa. over the long term period, is considered a very good performance in stock market.

Cheers.

wow.... you have gain RM6.50 with ~30% capital gain and not to mention about the dividend that you get......
i bought it on 2005 and sell it on 2008 and i kill my golden goose.......

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Added on August 7, 2009, 6:08 amwah.... 20lots = 20x100 = 2000 shares which is RM90,000 at RM4.50....

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Added on August 7, 2009, 6:18 amya...penny stocks ...can eventually shrink easily 20%, 50% or even more...as this heavy weight or so called luxury stock will appreciate none stock.... still remember during 1997/98 crisis...i was thinking that BAT could gone down further, mana tau continuous to appreciate from 33.00 to 40.xx ........................................

and one thing for sure, since 2000 to 2008, the sin tax is increasing quite a porportional...
and i used to see dunhill price at RM2.00 during my school days......and now....RM9.00....
and i would foreseen, the next hike could be as much as 0.50 and ...it might hit RM10.00............
and probably become a burden......if the price hit RM20.00.....

about it dividend trends..... it pay 3.xx before... .and last year it is 2.65 and....
if i were to take 5 years dividend at average of 2.65... it would give you RM13.25 ....and minus...today price RM48.00, your purchase will be around RM34.75..................... but some time or always the time, when stock price appreciate, a lot of us, can not stand the temptation and always.....sell first...before regret later.....

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Added on August 7, 2009, 6:35 amI don;t think so ..... you know berkshire hathaway share listed in US, 1 share already USD 106400 at today closing... furthermore you need to time 3.5 for conversion rate...to RM.

so i think ppl just see the share price, and this not see the total circulation of the shares... and the market cap....

bat never give our bonus issues, right issues, share split and thus the shares keep on appreciate.....
i was thinking why?????

This post has been edited by Kamen Rider: Aug 7 2009, 06:35 AM

I agree on the part of arguement too expensive to own one for ordinary investors on Berkshire Hathaway because 1 share already cost USD 100K already.

But still its got class B share as well which at much lower price but still is a couple of thousand as well.

Just to share out this stock got around 5% dividend, but bear in mind it revenue still decreasing now.

http://cwyeoh-stock.blogspot.com/

A year a ago, 1.13 is given and now around a year later 10-Aug-2010, the ex-date of 113 cents...dividend... wonder who has hold it for a year....

if revenue decrease
please expect a big diarrhea after ex date.

When it dips on the next econ panic, grab BAT like money drop from sky, then hold until die

yup...profit has been going south recent years despite the revenue up..............

one thing that trigger us is will tobacco industry die off when the country start developed and people have higher education....... and will the tax increased and smuggling continue to erode the tobacco sales................. the downward has been starting years back???

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Added on August 10, 2010, 5:13 amwhen DIPS, any good fundamental blue chips will be a bargain buy.......

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Added on August 10, 2010, 5:14 amnow Class A share stood at 120K USD

This post has been edited by Kamen Rider: Aug 10 2010, 05:14 AM

Make sure you do! BAT won't die in M'sia. The holding company in M'sia is very widely operated regionally. Unless BAT decides to delist itself, holding BAT stocks will be a good investment even for your kids!

PURPLE do you think this is happening??? look at the smokers are they that lowly edcuated in terms of scholar education i.e. going to school/uni?
green this is very valid

This post has been edited by amalthea: Aug 11 2010, 01:16 PM

looking at the bat historical announcement and reports, it seems like, no right offer, no bonus issues etc.... and so far also observed none of share buy back.... (probably i didn't find it)......... yet question back to recent hot news on privatization, ...will bat follow the same path....

????

i am wondering this coming 2010 budget reading, will there any hike in tax against tobacco products.... normally no news is a good news.....

I notice that foreign big brands like Nestle, BAT, KFC etc don't really bother much about their shares on the bursa, they just run the operations like a well oiled machine year after year, and that's about it.