Guys,

We've heard many conspiracy theories on who commands the world. One of the sensational theory would be Illuminati. A secret society that exist since long time ago. And it is said to be linked with secret societies such as Skulls and Bones.
Another theories would be the world are controlled by Zionist in a proxy way.

And lately I heard a theory that, all these secret societies are actually controlled by Lucifer (Lucifer is the leader of Devils, Satan).


Let's discuss about this guys. I think it's a very interesting topic.

hazairi,

My theory is some people are not capable of adapting and surviving in this NEW WORLD. So, they created this kind of BS to blame OTHERS for their failure.

Successful human beings has NO NEED for this kind of conspiracy BS. Only failures need to do this.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 3 2009, 03:52 AM

STupid and make no sense...LOL

First of all, as the name suggests, these theory are just that. Theories. I can come up with any theory I want as long as I can dig up a few "proofs" (whether really related or not) that support my claim along the way. In fact if I were to question some religion by bringing up some theory about them, there might be grave consequences there.

So, what I don't understand is that you're calling these 'theories' but asking questions ( I quote: "Who actually sets the New World Order?") that make them (the theories) sounds as if they are real.

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Aug 3 2009, 02:46 PM

Doesnt make sense at all.

Why would the world leaders listen to someone who hides in a cupboard?

Oh hay here I thought Illuminati was a weak organization that has failed and died out eons ago by itself.

*rolleyes*

New World Order ? Lulz. I spent quite a while "searching" for the truth. All I get is people with too much free time theorising every speech of our leaders as a "hidden message"...

Evidently we can see that nowadays it is the US who sets the 'World Order'.
It's just that speculations are saying that while US are controlling the world, there are actually other party who controls the administration of US in a proxy way..
Hmm..

You mean the jews?

conspiracy theories. life is boring. must have some conspiracy theories to spice up the life! i don't think the NWO is real.

Yeah, one of the classic theory is that the Zionist controls the US by proxy.

Okay to those who believe in this New World Order can you please explain to me what is their main objective?

hazairi, i genuinely believe this topic is too heavy for forumers like lowyat to really think deep enough to just understand the surface of this subject..

not worthy of a topic in here....

Agree ! Things that do not suit the eyes and ears of LYN forummers, it will be bashed no matter how true or how false they are.

TS, don't worry I'll support you

I have been PM-ing a few LYN abt this subject long time ago.. which means there are actually LYNer who is aware about this just that they don't want to speak freely cuz the more we know, the more we think about the consequences of discussing it publicly.

idiots will always deny this n that and won't even think 1cm deeper but just stay on surface giving BS to break the claim. if u did study the iluminati, that explains the situation u're in now. If everyone can think like you do, who will be the factory workers or waiter/waitress to serve your food? Everyone would be as smart and as rich already and no slaves anymore.

This post has been edited by chezzball: Aug 4 2009, 11:38 AM

I would like to know more about them but i have a few doubts. First of all tell me what do you think is their main objective.

that's a good point chezzball..

If ppl don't completely believe in this subject, it doesn't matter because it can sometimes related to your religious belief, but it does not hurt just to have an understanding of this critical yet sensitive subject and probably gain some knowledge out of it, maybe a different angle of thinking about the world we live today...

as I said, read my previous post bro !

in my opinion after considerable study into this subject (although not intensive), i believe their main objective is to deceive the believers into the unbelievers...

aih... google.com =P

anyway I learnt about this "Secret Society" few yrs ago when i was still student then i blogged about it, nobody give a damn..i know its jews but it was until lately MJ death and some LYN tipped me about "wakeup project" and a few other sites, only I know the name for this Secret Society is Iluminati.. when I combine all the findings i had with this iluminati... all make sense loh..

facebook also belongs to them mah..

I don't think opinions play any role here. You must deliver fact with concrete proofs to back it. Opinion remains an opinion.

so we can discuss about God and religion and the origin of life but suddenly the theory of NWO is too heavy? This topic will get the same treatment as the others you need to give reasons and evidence to support your claims and other will give theirs to challenge it.

I won't simply accept "We know about these thing but we can't tell you because you just won't understand". You will tell us what you think, we will question them, you will answer.

basically everything that derives us from practising our religious customs are the works of this secret societies and it's associates so we could be misled from our main objective to our religion..

i learnt about this during my uni days (could you believe it was a compulsory subject) LOL.

Read The International Jew, went to download the Protocols of Zion, went to a LOT of sites all claiming conspiracy.

Am not convinced.

that is so true... but there are people who simply dismiss it even before they started reading the 1st sentence of the topic. that's not worth of a debate with these kind of people..

but it's true because this subject is very religious than most people think (eg: Illuminati is not the work of the human alone), so I have to be very careful about writing something I BELIEVE in...

Reality or Conspiracy Theory?

more can be read from.. many articles with facts... etc

http://www.futurefastforward.com

its a website by Mathias Chang, former Political Secretary of Dr Mahathir..

this is what they are afraid of

true.. it all goes back to the story of free masons, iluminati and aso lucifer...

and basically if you know nothing about religion, you won't know what is right and what is wrong.

okay so what will they gain if we are distracted from our religion. And do they attack certain religion only or all religions?

For me, as a Muslim, the illuminati (secret societies & satan) would want to misled us so we could forget our main purpose of living (eg: to devot our life according to Islam's customs), so they could bring with them as many as possible to hell after the end of days. This is all stated in the Quran and Hadith.

BUT, if you watch the videos Conspiritus or other similar sibject, even if the creator of the videos didn't even mention Islam in it, it pretty much leading to the same conclusion. Example, the video said the Illuminati are preparing for 'the coming', that they have prepared a large sum of black coffin. That practically means, in Islam, that 'the coming' is actually the coming of Dajjal Besar (the anti-christ) to misled the entire world. One of the sign of Dajjal is 'it is a one-eyed creature'. Remember, the Illuminati logo is a one-eye over a pyramid. it's even printed on the US dollar..

I strongly suggest you watch the COnspiritus video and othe similar one concerning the subject. I would also like to suggest Zeitgeist Final Edition...

a lot of atheists live normally just like people with religions. according to this opinion of yours, all these people without religions should already be out on a killing spree because they don't have religion telling them that murder is wrong. I believe even without religion telling us stealing is wrong, a human still can know it's wrong just because you won't like it if others did it to you.

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Added on August 4, 2009, 12:32 pmSo these people know for sure that religion (let's say Islam for example) is the truth? I understand satan would try to misled us as he is already doomed but these humans, these Illuminati, you mean they know for sure that Islam is the truth and they are working for satan to get satan more friends in hell in the end when they are human and are not forced into hell. why did they do that? if they know for sure that satan (since they are personally working for him) and their followers (including themselves) will end up in hell, why did they still do it?

i know many people who don't believe in religion or those with religion but do bad because they are not sure that it's really the truth (since there are no proof that god exists and all). but you are saying these guys meet satan himself, know that satan is wrong and Islam is right, FOR SURE, and instead of going to do good (since they know for sure that Islam is true, unlike others who have never seen prove of it like meeting satan) they try to recruit more people to throw in hell along with themself? where is the sense in that?

do tell.

This post has been edited by Shadow Kun: Aug 4 2009, 12:32 PM

You are preaching about Islam like you are praying 5 times a day !

This post has been edited by am_eniey: Aug 4 2009, 12:34 PM

Great observation!! after watching the videos of Conspiritus, I asked the same question to y friends if does REALLY the Satan worked with the illuminaties DIRECTLY or within unconcious mind. But the worship of satan or the evil spirit is all well documented for thousands of years, and that could be one of the way.

Because I've never heard before in my life any Ustaz or Ulama talking about Satan working TOGETHER with the Illuminaties, so I cannot directly answer that yet. All we know is that since the creation of human, the Satan & evil will always misled us from the right path until the end of time so they can bring with them to hell, BUT we never know wether Satan did combine with human(illuminaties) to misled the believers(other human beings)..

But what do I believe is, since the other holy book before Quran has different kinds of interpretation & 'versions', the Quran remains the same, incorruptable since the day of it's completion. You may not agree, but this is what I believe...

This post has been edited by diwant: Aug 4 2009, 12:46 PM

Hell is created not just for the devil/satan, it's for the human too including to those who are muslims.

yes of course. that was also documented..

please don't masukkan unsur-unsur agama.

Being anti-christ is just part of their agenda.

Their main agenda is global governance and global treasury. They use lucifer to 'glorify' or strengthen the organization. It's like kongsi gelap, if u simply find 1 d*** become ketua kongsi gelap, sure no pahwer and influenec rite? But if u get people like *ahem C4* be kongsi gelap head, the organization itself will have the instant 'status' and 'recognition' at least the follower know their head is "SOMEONE PAHWERFUL"

Anyway, do u know that China and Japan has formed their own secret government to go against this Zionist as well? They are both having war 'secretly' .. look at the earthquakes in china and jap... *HAARP* then the story about China sub suddenly penetrate US navy in South China Sea...

to us commoner they tell us it's just a co-incident.. and we accept it.... but the real deal is actually something bigger and only those amerikan and chinese officials know...

Okay either way, whether satan told the illuminatis to do work for him, or indirectly does so, these Illuminates knows for sure that they will end up in hell and suffer greatly if they keep on doing these evil work since they know the Islam is the truth, disobeying Islam will make you end up in hell. Since they believe in Islam and know what is the consequence of not practicing it, instead of using the huge effort to worship the true God Allah and guarantee a seat up in heaven, they still want to do the otherwise. Do these guys really prefer hell than heaven? They really want to get themselves burned alive over and over again rather than the best kind of life you can get in heaven? You mean these guys enjoys getting tortured?

Because all others that does bad intentionally (not like stealing because of hunger for example), do so because they don't believe that they are God who will punish them for it. But these guys knows for sure that God is real and will kick their asses into hell, but still, they put a lot of effort to get their ass kicked, and even get friends to join them. Again, where is the sense in that?

i reply for the bold sentence:
1. eventually this topic will fall into the religious path.
2. I would like to know the source of your knowledge regarding China & Japan's secret war
3. That is what MOST of our people believe in, but there are always the others who believe otherwise


Than u have to ask "why these people worship the spirit?" I'm afraid. MAYBE the illuminaties were told by satan that he himself is God and they believe it. That could be one of the factor. But you never know what are they actually thinking unless you become one of them. But one thing for sure, in current world right now, whatever they do behind the scene, the reward they got is world domination. Isn't that a convincing enough proof that they really believe in their cause?

The answer is for you to find out. Like I said, it's down to religious belief.

This post has been edited by diwant: Aug 4 2009, 01:14 PM

google the arrivals via youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU

This is a discussion...not debate....Fact is telling what it is and truth is telling how it should be...I do agree fact with concrete proofs is important but dont u think is way too excessive in an open-minded discussion??....Discussion is about sharing or construct mind together to research something...If we know something, would it still call research or discussion??

Life is a process of experience than procedur ...i believed we alll here to seek meaning than to prove something...addition, this topic is not about science

I don't think derive is the word you were planning to use but that doesn't matter. Everything is the work of this secret society? Hmm..that's a very daring claim you have there. You are attributing each and every case to these secret societies. So how does this secret society influence Muslims in Malaysia?

I don't think that is a good argument. It's just like saying, the law of gravity is true because it's more theoretical than people think).

The question should not be limited to a certain religion or a certain believer but you must ask it yourself what influence it does it yourself, your belief, your family, your country, your political belief, every single event that occurred in you and your surrounding (educational system, financial, economical, etc). Why powerful leaders shouting outloud globalisation? aka novus ordo sclorum? What disaster ppl have been talking about in the year of 2012? Actual world turmoil in terms of economic? world natural disasters? etc?. Where does democracy, communism, athesim coming from? Are they choices made for you to make you think that you have a choice? And if i said the current pope now is one of them what's you're gonna do?

This post has been edited by 4g15p: Aug 4 2009, 04:45 PM

Hmm..for me I don't think I have been affected by these people or my believe or my family. I also can't think of how the Illuminati or Freemason has influenced the Malaysian government. I've heard that some sultans used to be members of the Freemason but I don't think any of the current sultans are members. Novus ordo seclorum (a.k.a New Order of the Ages) might not necessarily be globalisation. I think the 2012 is a Mayan prophecy so I think that's a separate conspiracy. The idea of Democracy came from ancient Greece, as far as I know Communism in it's presence form was started by Karl Marx, Atheism is just believing that God does not exist and I believe that this can be as early as the dawn on humanity. All these are different philosophical ideas, and there are plenty of other -ism if you want me to name them. What choices? The foundation of these knowledge? I'm quite sure smart people existed before the 20th century, and thought of these ideas. Just like the people born after us would study what we think and did in this century. The current pope is one of who?

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Aug 4 2009, 05:07 PM

Average men are usually blinded by their rationality and self-denial.
Both prevents thinking.

Interested people can read books of Gary Allens(None Dare Call it Conspiracy), Eustace Mullins and Emmanuel Josephson ( The Rockefeller File)

This post has been edited by darksider: Aug 4 2009, 08:27 PM

Hmm...that was what i think too, but don't you think that's possibility what this so-called secret society/freemason/illuminaties want us to believe in? Who wrote those things neway? i.e. Holocaust, yeah in history it was written that the jews was massacred in massive numbers by nazis, but did you dig it up a bit further the whole genocide thing was an initial plan for the jews through Rothchilds (i believe this family is still the utmost richest and powerfull in this world, no Bill Gates and the kinds) to claim establishment of Jews' national/country within Palestine with the help of British through Balfour decree? Why in the first place Palestine? Why not a United States? Why not France? Why not Australia? Why not South America? Africa? Why it has to be Palestine? The answer is simple, they are preparing for their false-Messiah/anti-christ/dajjal al-masih to bethroned as their "true God" and this "God" has one eye only just as all-seeing eye on top of pyramid in us dollar bill. And who's the founder of communism? yes indeed as your answer, no one else than freemason Karl Marx and he is a 32nd degree freemason, a member of german grand orient lodge, yeah he's an atheism and his view is based on evolution theory which was propounded by Darwin's father Erasmus Darwin. So seeing all about evolution of this and that in this very forum (PhD), a "denial" of God existence (in different thread) by materialize Him into our definition and boundary, philosophical topics, etc really makes me think, is lowyat already "invaded" by secret society minions? wooow..... ....unless we are the non-believer of the secret society's belief, yeah we bound to be punish in their version of "hell"....as if.... Owh....so pope is one of who again? hehehe living in 20th century with alotsa ism been created and thrown in bombastic words, i believe a simple google won't hurt.....iye....

so , people who believe in freemason think themselves are superior than the average joe , am I right?

If Jews can control the US, then can the Illuminati/Freemason control the rest of the world, eg.China? China owns trillions of USD, there's some other big nations in the waking such as Russia, India, bla3..

now USA already collapse following the Jews economic style (as claimed by PAS leaders, they said Yahudi punca segala2nya.)

there are notable amount of antisemitic in US and Europe, needless to say the muslim world, can these little Jewish association take over the world huh.. so simple?

anyway, FYI the iluminati members - rockefeller rothschild billgates and <insert-some-richass-jews-name>

dun ask me for source .. coz google is over there ----->

i sudah lama didnt read so i also forget where i found it dy...

i think the best to start with is thru MJ's death conspiracy la.. cuz it will lead u to CIA, then to them.

So you're saying that the holocaust did not happen and that they are lying about the 6 million people who died? Jews were from the Middle East, weren't they? There are even stories from the al-Quran about where the ancient Jews were from. The story of Karl Marx as a freemason is part of the conspiracy therefore it cannot be used as evidence to proof the theory.

Btw, the reason why I post questions is not because I support them (if they do exist and do what you the theory claims). It's just that I feel some of the arguments used in trying to convince people about their activities do not convince me. It sounds more like some anti-Jew and anti-West religious doctrine.

Another thing I don't get is that the co-founder of Google is a Jew. Since you believe the Western Media is controlled by this group of evil Jews (secret society/freemason/illuminaties etc.), why do ask people to Google for information?

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Aug 5 2009, 12:51 AM

Before you guys go any further or reject this knowledge, watch this video FIRST and do come back...

http://www.arrivals.technocrazed.com/episo...eedom-unplugged

I've did some research regarding 'The Arrival' theory before this.
It does make sense actually, cause since Adam first came to earth, Lucifer already pleaded to God to give him a chance so that he can take as many souls to accompany him to hell after the day of Armageddon.

And we can see now how humans behave. Morality is no more, instead, materialism is the main purpose of life. Hmm.., so sad..

it does not matter if you say "it make sense" because the non-believer will always make sense on what they seen and what they were told to... so i think this thought-provoking video should set the people's mindset once and for all..

it's a double edge sword i think......Musa a.s./Moses(peace be upon him) grown and raised up by Pharoah's wife in very own castle (under Pharaoh's nose) during the extermination of new born baby campaign made by the king himself after he dreamt about his power and kingdom toppled down by a man born among the Jews....which turn out to be his own adopted child....Musa a.s./Moses (peach be upon him)....So don't you think a weapon which is developed by the them could possibly a weapon to be used against them back?

So they are planning something and God is planning something too, but God's plan triumph all.....enuff said...

The arrivals is a mindcontrol film to tell the "truth", believe or not to believe is up to u.. juz like the 9.11 is an inside job. will u go n read the truth? even if u does it wont change anything.

Why it won't change anything? When people know a little about the truth, they will certainly think differently. The problem is that people trust that without a shadow of doubt. But it doesn't really matter. What one has to do has nothing to do with others.

It might not change anything in the global stage, but one of the main reason the director of the series says that it's about changing yourself first, rather than trying to change the world altogether. Then, from yourself, you influence people around you (neighbor, relatives, friends) and then the community and so on..

What u might do after watching the videos is not going to change the world, but how it changes you and what can you do to achieve the ultimate prize of all, the Heaven of the afterlife...

are you so sure about your statement ?

Yeah,these people just love controversies.

There are just heaps of interesting stuff out there,but they prefer some controversies that have almost no relevance to science.

Mods should change the name of this subforum to Controversy Convention.

I just found out something call Self Compacting Concrete.Pretty cool i would say and it's only slightly more expansive than typical concrete.

i go on the internet to research on the new world order and found the chilling revelation on this sinister group of violent middle age dude



This post has been edited by robertngo: Aug 7 2009, 12:51 AM

Hmm, this is an interesting topic.
I hate to can't contribute but this infact is a good read.
As I am 1 who fonds conspiracies, regardless true/false.
Since it is conspiracy, no one knows, unless we are the mastermind ourselves.

Does this NWO has any relation about da vinci code and stuff?
Cost I started to learn about if after da vinci code.
The freemasons/illuminatis/zions and stuff.

Since everyone loves controversies here,the Mods should rename this place as Controversy Convention then.

There are almost no topic on science here.

Tell me,what has some idiots ruling US by proxy have anything to do with science?

I dont see magazines like New Scientist,Discover,Popular Science ever wrote an article on some baseless controversies.

Just for your information guys,

US President J.F Kennedy in his speech about opposing and fighting the secret society who wants to control the world remains a controversy. He was assasinated after that.

Yeah, I agree with Cheese,

There isn't any scientific discussion here at all.

At least, Michael Moore could come up with better conspiracies than this.

lol TS...

tutup topik lah... ini topik too komplikated for LYN ppl to digest ler.. if people wanna b ignorant just let them be la.. u can go lepak in wake up project forum, their maturity level might b suitable for ur discussion. talk to kid u will only vomit blood

Or it's quantum physics,material engineering or any proper science topics are too complicated for you.Thats why you have to resort to conspiracy or science fiction like teleportation.

Dont need to use a dupe account to curse me.I know it was you.

This thread is essentially an insult to "PHD School" if we put it in harsh terms.

:|

ala..

Why tutup?
If others can't digest that let them be la..
This is a nice topic~

Okay,since you like this topic,tell me what relevance that it has to do with science?

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Added on August 8, 2009, 3:38 pmYeap,the whole section is pretty much about controversies.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 8 2009, 03:38 PM

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In my humble opinion, this is a very interesting topic; it should not be closed.

Regards.

It should be closed,as it has no relevance to science.

Even talking about Tiberium is better than this.

I have a win win solution:

Change thread title to "Why are humans genetically prone to believing conspiracy theories?"

Indeed this topic have no relationship to science at these moment, but certainly it somewhat fall under humanities part of this forum discussion which this thread happened to be tagged with btw.

Instead of going why this topic should be closed because due to lack of science, the argument should be why this topic is lack of substance to continue on.


EDIT: Conspiracy theories, there always be believers and skeptics. Probably due to human nature lack of trust to one another and also they tend to lie too. Oh well, going out of topic already.....

This post has been edited by mp3: Aug 8 2009, 07:40 PM

Don't spam the thread and write unnecessary posts. Thank you

Continue the discussion and I hope moderator will delete unrelated post

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Added on August 8, 2009, 10:19 pmhttp://www.whale.to/b/holocaust_revisionism.html

[Holocaust definition changed.1 There isn't any evidence for homicidal gas chambers, only gas shelters or disinfection chambers to kill lice that spread Typhus (hence the use of Zyklon B), a major cause of death at the time and the reason for all the bodies seen in the mass graves at Belsen, that were used to convince people of Nazi 'death camps.' The gas chamber myth can easily be seen in the absurdity of the morgues that are passed off as gas chambers at Auschwitz I and Auschwitz II, and in the actual mechanics of using gas to kill humans (see Mechanics of Gassing Gas chambers). There also isn't any written evidence for a policy of genocide known as the 'Final Solution'. Other telling evidence is the Persecution of revisionists and the studious avoidance of Forensic examinations relying purely on Eye Witnesses.

The Holocaust story started out as propaganda 1 (see Soap Lampshades Nazi 'gas chamber'), and at the war end served to hide the British Tavistock (Illuminati/Zionist) creation of the war (see: Wars Bormann Himmler Hitler Stalin), along with war and post war crimes (1 2, 3, 4, 5), while it helped create the state of Israel (1948 1), and now helps justify the present genocides in Palestine, & Iraq. It is the main source of Zionist power.1 The Videos here are a good start.]


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This post has been edited by darksider: Aug 8 2009, 10:19 PM

hi, the reason for forum exists is to convey differing opinions, anyone can support or against the theory, but it must accompanied by facts or self-proclaimed evidence, ala RWI style.

So, if internet was NWO's plan....?

What then?.
Live still goes on.

Here's food for thought. The most common 'argument' (for the lack of a better word) provided by conspiracy theorist is that 'the masses are too ignorant to accept the facts'. This line has already been bukake-ed all over this thread.

Dismissing non-believers as simple minded heathens, way to argue your PoV.

I like to quote Buzz Aldrin whenever people ask me if I believe in conspiracy theory. When a reporter asked him what he had to say to people who thought the moon landings were staged, he replied:

"I feel sorry for the gullible people who're going to go along with them. I guess it's just natural human reaction to want to be a part of 'knowing something that somebody doesn't know.' But it's misguided. It's just a shame."

Or we could do what Buzz did in 2003 (I think?). He punched a conspiracy theorist, who had called him a liar, right in the face.

Buzz Aldrin throw a nice punch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU

This post has been edited by robertngo: Aug 9 2009, 06:51 AM

read the book : international jew by henry ford

For me it's normal to be sceptic in such theory.

But let me explain step by step. From the very basics of NWO theory.
The theory that NWO was controlled by one high level secret society.
The prove?
Listen to this J F Kennedy's speech here. He was the president of US.



So, for you sceptics out there, you think that JFK was lying about the secret society?

I think the moon landing was true and it actually happen.

It's a load of bullshit that you people find it so exciting.So,now you say Kennedy died because of some idiots who were hiding in the closet.

Seriously,please close this thread.It's pointless.

Have u heard his speech? So, you are saying Former US president JF Kennedy lied on his speech about secret society?

I dont believe on all these theories.

Well, like I said, let's go step by step.
1st. Secret society.
Proof? JFK's speech that I've given.
So, any reasons you don't believe regarding his speech?

how does this prove that he is killed by secret society?

this is not even a popular kennedy assassination conspiracy theory, the more popular ones involve the CIA, KGB, Castro, anti-castro group, FBI, Isreal, Mafia, J Edgar Hoover, Nixon, Lydon Johnson, military industrial complex, big business. usually the combination of one or more.

It's because it doesnt make sense at all for a world leader to listen to some dumb idiot hiding in a closet.

If Kennedy want,he could just launch a nuke and get rid of those idiots in a closet.

I dont see what to discuss here,as conspiracies are pointless sensationalized news in the first place.I read a few science magazines here and none of them ever talk about any conspiracy.

All these conspiracy topics should be out of here.There is no relevance between conspiracy with science,humanities or philosophy.If there are relevance,tell me then.So far,no one ever enlighten about these,which proves that all these conspiracies are just off topic here.

Im out of here.Conspiracy lovers spoiling the whole place with conspiracies that doesnt even make sense at all.

Fake moon landing.The world ruled by idiots that are hiding.2012 Apocalypse.Ghost thread. What kind of utter bullshit this is? Is this what LYN's science section?

The whole PHD corner is even pointless than reading Popular Science.At least Pop Science have some fancy 3D renders to see with little to none explanation behind it.

Who cares if you believe or not believe

But I believe the psychopaths always love people who never believe all this.

What im concern is what is the relevance of all this with this subforum.

It's only imperative that they should at least show some ACTUAL evidence first to these "conspiracies".

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 9 2009, 05:35 PM

Still,these conspiracies have nothing to do with the subforum,as they will never be any evidence with all these.

They should be in /k.

Maybe he was not killed by the secret society, but the point is on his speech.
He clearly spoke about the 'secret society' that trying to control the world. Go and hear his speech clearly..

Hmm, some dumb idiot hiding in a closet?
Nope. They are not bunch of dumb idiots. They are the elites. Based on the theories, those elites are affiliated with the secret society.

The are many science theories that haven't been proven yet,
such as Darwin's theory of evolution, Einsteins theory of relativity and many more..
Those are a still theories but it was put in the science subject for people to learn..
Hence, gotcha! I've debunked your claim that this subject shouldn't fit here..