basically everything that derives us from practising our religious customs are the works of this secret societies and it's associates so we could be misled from our main objective to our religion..

that is so true... but there are people who simply dismiss it even before they started reading the 1st sentence of the topic. that's not worth of a debate with these kind of people..

but it's true because this subject is very religious than most people think (eg: Illuminati is not the work of the human alone), so I have to be very careful about writing something I BELIEVE in...

The question should not be limited to a certain religion or a certain believer but you must ask it yourself what influence it does it yourself, your belief, your family, your country, your political belief, every single event that occurred in you and your surrounding (educational system, financial, economical, etc). Why powerful leaders shouting outloud globalisation? aka novus ordo sclorum? What disaster ppl have been talking about in the year of 2012? Actually world turmoil in terms of economic? world natural disasters? etc?. Where does democracy, communism, athesim coming from? Are they choices made for you to make you think that you have a choice? And if i said the current pope now is one of them what's you're gonna do?

Hmm...that was what i think too, but don't you think that's possibility what this so-called secret society/freemason/illuminaties want us to believe in? Who wrote those things neway? i.e. Holocaust, yeah in history it was written that the jews was massacred in massive numbers by nazis, but did you dig it up a bit further the whole genocide thing was an initial plan for the jews through Rothchilds (i believe this family is still the utmost richest and powerfull in this world, no Bill Gates and the kinds) to claim establishment of Jews' national/country within Palestine with the help of British through Balfour decree? Why in the first place Palestine? Why not a United States? Why not France? Why not Australia? Why not South America? Africa? Why it has to be Palestine? The answer is simple, they are preparing for their false-Messiah/anti-christ/dajjal al-masih to bethroned as their "true God" and this "God" has one eye only just as all-seeing eye on top of pyramid in us dollar bill. And who's the founder of communism? yes indeed as your answer, no one else than freemason Karl Marx and he is a 32nd degree freemason, a member of german grand orient lodge, yeah he's an atheism and his view is based on evolution theory which was propounded by Darwin's father Erasmus Darwin. So seeing all about evolution of this and that in this very forum (PhD), a "denial" of God existence (in different thread) by materialize Him into our definition and boundary, philosophical topics, etc really makes me think, is lowyat already "invaded" by secret society minions? wooow.....   ....unless we are the non-believer of the secret society's belief, yeah we bound to be punish in their version of "hell"....as if.... Owh....so pope is one of who again? hehehe living in 20th century with alotsa ism been created and thrown in bombastic words, i believe a simple google won't hurt.....iye....