Nobody counts 120KG per side. Only H&F LYN users use that method of counting. We count the bar and the plates. Honestly speaking? Ya know, why I think LYN users say "per side"? It's either;

1. We can't count to 10
2. We are using per'side to mask the tiny amount of weights lifted

Why be so shy about it? If that's your maximal abilities, well be proud about it.

and i agree completely about what you said about John's legs.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 10 2009, 07:31 PM

No.
It's GENETICS. Muscle doesn't grow around that area unfortunately. Not much. You COULD strengthen the ligaments and tendons (but I think it barely even grows if at all) As for FAT. By the time it covers that area, you'd look like a bloated walrus.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 10 2009, 10:50 PM

You have to quit believing that. This guy, look at the size of his wrists


Ok?

He jerks 202.5 kilos. I'm not joking. Size not strength. Not strength. Not strength. The theory of diminishing returns applies here, but when you aren't even close to maximal yet, the theory doesnt appyl.

When we handle limit weights, we almost never get the separation you're talking about. The only time there is separation is when you're handling baby weights like about 70-80%. Also you must consider that we have assistance exercises like push presses and overhead presses which is quite alike the bench in terms of wrist stresses. In fact, even more as we are forced to balance a dynamic weight overhead. As we all know, dynamic force is much harder to control than static pressure. And occasionally I do bench (maybe once a year) and I come close to about 110KG with tiny wrists. No problem.

Now I understand how you're taking biomechanics and physics and adding it together. Excellent stuff.
Now you need to add another variable into your theory. Tensile strength. You wouldn't put a four 5" stick to hold a car up but you wouldn't have much qualms about putting four 1" titanium rod to hold up your car right?

OF course, with all things being equal, then the larger wrist guy would probably be able to handle maximum weights better, but it is not that huge a factor. It's the bone density that matters here. Let's take an example.
If you had to, would you take a turning kick from a bodybuilder who is giant with huge skeletal structure. Or would you take a turning kick from a seasoned muay thai fighters. [Note: In a demonstration, a Muay Thai fighter broke wooden bats like they were toothpicks and bent the metal ones. ]

As for theory of diminishing returns, increased muscle can make us stronger and faster. But only to a certain level. Then it stops giving the advantages. Then you need to take steps such as CNS routing, speed training, explosive power, maximal strength training. Stuff like that.

At extreme weights, EVERYTHING counts. But for bodybuilders, it's about size not weights.

IF you do 100KG per side, you say 212KG.
If you do 110KG per side, you say 232KG.
You add the bar.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 11 2009, 09:05 AM

Sureeee.....what about your progress photos?

He does actually. But Shanecross has to freaking hunt the food. So no beer for him

He doesn't.
He needs to be able to run distances, fight, defend, pull, push, lift, sprint and jump. Things that require power and strength and coordination and endurance. Not have the "fashion" muscles. Things that the real world needs in combat. The chest, has almost no real world application besides helping stabilize loads.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 16 2009, 12:46 AM

Same here

I disagree. It's not necessary that someone has to look huge just because they know a lot. In fact, I strongly believe that if someone can achieve their goals, and share their knowledge, they deserve kudos. And his is clearly, not to look big or muscular or anything.

Me? Pretty easy. Squat under barbells. Pull barbells off the ground. Press barbells above your head. Do pullups. Repeat with dumbbells and kettlebells. Oh and jump around and run a lot.

Good advice. My coach I think gave the best way to summarize this;

Go heavy, go high reps.

When we train, we never actually follow a particular system. We'll see what our weaknesses are at. Then we'll work at it. Then when it gets easy, we play with the repetitions. Higher rep for this set, add a bit more weight for the next set, pause at certain points, use chains to overload, use bands to assist in speed, use deadstop squats. All sorts lah

9-12 point caliper check.

EDIT: Forgot that the 12 point ones can barely be found.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 18 2009, 02:23 PM

Nope. Every rep range, can build strength. Let's put it this way.

You've been training at 5x5 and your 5x5 weight is currently 100KG. (This gives you an average max 1RM BS of about 130KG btw)
But you've stalled for nearly 1 month and just can't do 5x5 with 102.5KG. You've deloaded and loaded 3x and still fail.

Simple. Move to 5x3 @ 102.5KG.

So maybe now you've got 117.5KG x 5 x 3 but can't move up anymore. No matter how you try, you can't.

Simple! Change to 3 x 8 @ 110KG

Okay, so now you've increased your 3x8 @ 110KG to 120KG. You've got 120KG for 3 sets of 8 reps.

Think you could do 130KG x 5 x 5 this time?

This is how we mess around with the rep ranges and keep the body going "Shit, what the hell is wrong with my owner? Why's he doing this!!?"

Any rep range can increase strength. Even up to 20 reps for a single set.

Nike Romaleos FTW
Adistar and Ironwork 3 also boleh la....

I need to snatch 105KG to get my free Romaleos from my coach.

It's made of bull skin. Not alligator. The company's not from Shreveport (Crocodile paradise) but Colombia. If I had spring absorber shoes, we wouldn't be snatching or clean and jerking. I'd be jumping over Najib's house throwing him a few stink bombs. Solid shoes are a must for weightlifting. Maximal force transfer and stability.

Down to 500mg per meal. I think I can even completely stop taking HCl in about 2 weeks. A day protein.....maybe 100gm?

1. To test
2. I recover in time, sudah lah. Malas nak makan beribu-ribu tan protein. Competition's in 2 weeks. If bodyweight ternaik, damn kecoh.

Badminton shoes has a rubbery substance between as a shock absorbent. This isn't something you want, because it reduces the force transfer between the floor and you. An analogy?
Try jumping on sponges.

You won't be able to transfer force maximally and it's unstable as well.

Often they also cause you to have your feet (because of the protective shock absorbent padding), kinda like move inwards and can cause ACL tears. Not good at all. This is especially true, if you don't have good technique, and I maybe 80% of gym goers DON'T have good technique. Trust me on this one. So many times, I can see the flaws that you guys are doing, that's cutting your power short. EG: Diving into the hole and then straining out.


Your best bet? Go Bata and buy the north star school shoes. RM29.90

This is at 78.5KG.
1.5KG to go before the nationals.
I wonder how I'll look at 77.


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Bodybuilding nationals.
Nolah......weightlifting nationals in Sabah on the 6-9th. Hoping to get a 102/123KG result there.

No I'm just too tall for this weight.