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 High electricity bills, Advice needed.thks.

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TSpedas126
post Jul 26 2009, 06:34 PM, updated 17y ago

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My house got 6 persons, 1 couple in master aircond room, 2 gays in 1 middle room, 1 handsome in middle room, i'm taking the small room.
4 desktop - usage : average 18 hours everyday
2 laptop - usage : average 18 hours everyday
1 1hp aircond - usage : at least 14-16 hours every day
1 washing machine
1 kettle - usage : 4-5 times in 1 months


The latest bills that i got fr tis week is Rm434.70, unit that consumed is 1200Kwh...
do u all think the bills is normal? Advice needed...thks
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post Jul 26 2009, 06:38 PM

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How about the lightings? Do you switch on anything for 24hours, eg auto water boiler, porch light etc.
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post Jul 26 2009, 06:38 PM

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I think its normal lah...
Aircond : 8 hours per day
TV: from 7am to 2am
PC : from 10am to 10p,

The average bill that i receive is RM 200 +/- 50

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post Jul 26 2009, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(ragereaver @ Jul 26 2009, 06:38 PM)
How about the lightings? Do you switch on anything for 24hours, eg auto water boiler, porch light etc.
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erm, fluorescent light in staircase and kitchen on 12 hours like tat....1 hair dryer used twice per day i guess... no other electric items been used beside these..


Added on July 26, 2009, 6:47 pm
QUOTE(Maapu @ Jul 26 2009, 06:38 PM)
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I think its normal lah...
Aircond : 8 hours per day
TV: from 7am to 2am
PC : from 10am to 10p,

The average bill that i receive is  RM 200 +/- 50
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post Jul 26 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(pedas126 @ Jul 26 2009, 06:41 PM)
erm, fluorescent light in staircase and kitchen on 12 hours like tat....1 hair dryer used twice per day i guess... no other electric items been used beside these..
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I think its better for you to install a timer for those light or change it to the energy efficient light. Last time I'm used to on my porch light for 24 hours + auto water boiler + desktop pc ard 6 hours. Monthly bill was around RM150. Now I change those bulb to those enery efficient + throw away the auto water boiler, immediatly my bill went to around RM110.
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post Jul 26 2009, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(pedas126 @ Jul 26 2009, 06:34 PM)
My house got 6 persons, 1 couple in master aircond room, 2 gays in 1 middle room, 1 handsome in middle room, i'm taking the small room.
4 desktop - usage : average 18 hours everyday
2 laptop - usage : average 18 hours everyday
1 1hp aircond - usage : at least 14-16 hours every day
1 washing machine
1 kettle - usage : 4-5 times in 1 months
The latest bills that i got fr tis week is Rm434.70, unit that consumed is 1200Kwh...
do u all think the bills is normal? Advice needed...thks
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Let say desktop 300W x 4 = 1200 x 18 = 21.6KWH
Laptop 200W x 2 = 400 x 18 = 7.2KWH
1 hp = 750 W x 16 = 12KWH

21.6 + 7.2 + 12 = 40.8 x 30 days = 1224 KWH.

Above just rough calculation as desktop power consumption is always fluctuate due to usage, it is not possible that your computer always run at peak load.

So answer, yes, could reach 1200KWH
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post Jul 26 2009, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ragereaver @ Jul 26 2009, 06:48 PM)
I think its better for you to install a timer for those light or change it to the energy efficient light. Last time I'm used to on my porch light for 24 hours + auto water boiler + desktop pc ard 6 hours. Monthly bill was around RM150. Now I change those bulb to those enery efficient + throw away the auto water boiler, immediatly my bill went to around RM110.
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Flourescent light is considered energy efficient already unless one is using old type bulb one.

Water boiler is high energy usage one, at least >1KW one.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 26 2009, 06:55 PM)
Flourescent light is considered energy efficient already unless one is using old type bulb one.

Water boiler is high energy usage one, at least >1KW one.
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I was using the flourescent light previously for the porch and the rating was 80W. Now I'm using those Philips bulb which cost around RM18/unit. I'm not very sure what it's called. THe rating is only 18W but the brightness is the same as the flourescent. biggrin.gif
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Maybe the 2 gays in the midlle room is releasing plenty of heat....... ;p


just kiddin, actually one of my studio's have unusually high electricity charges, which is weird as it consumes double the electricity compared to my other studio. Was wondering what is the cause......?

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post Jul 26 2009, 07:28 PM

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you should check the meter, off all the electrical appliances, observe the meter. RM 400 is too much!!
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post Jul 27 2009, 10:22 AM

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I own a laundry shop and my bill is just around RM350 per month as a shop rate is higher which is 0.397 sen per unit compared to 0.286 sen per unit for houses. I am running 2 sets of iron, a washer, a dry cleaning machine, a dryer, an air cond, a computer, 3 ceiling fans, 2 billboards with lamp tubes, 7 tube lamps that run from 9am-9pm everyday except on sunday. My secret is installing 10mm cables to each of the machine (washer, dry cleaning machine and iron sets). These thick cables prevent unneccessary waste of electricity through resistance. That's basic physics. My laundry load is more or less the same as a laundry shop that pays RM900 for electricity monthly. I save more electricity therefore I can maintain competitive price for my services.

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post Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Jul 27 2009, 10:22 AM)
I own a laundry shop and my bill is just around RM350 per month as a shop rate is higher which is 0.397 sen per unit compared to 0.286 sen per unit for houses. I am running 2 sets of iron, a washer, a dry cleaning machine, a dryer, an air cond, a computer, 3 ceiling fans, 2 billboards with lamp tubes, 7 tube lamps that run from 9am-9pm everyday except on sunday. My secret is installing 10mm cables to each of the machine (washer, dry cleaning machine and iron sets). These thick cables prevent unneccessary waste of electricity through resistance. That's basic physics. My laundry load is more or less the same as a laundry shop that pays RM900 for electricity monthly. I save more electricity therefore I can maintain competitive price for my services.
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Can't get wat u mean.
From where to each of the machine?
From DB or wat
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post Jul 28 2009, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 26 2009, 07:10 PM)
Maybe the 2 gays in the midlle room is releasing plenty of heat....... ;p
just kiddin, actually one of my studio's have unusually high electricity charges, which is weird as it consumes double the electricity compared to my other studio. Was wondering what is the cause......?
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Is it considered a Service Apartment? If so, commercial rates applies smile.gif


Added on July 28, 2009, 4:32 pm
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Can't get wat u mean.
From where to each of the machine?
From DB or wat
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Yes, if you redo the DB with state of the art capacitor, regulators/invertors & changed the wiring to thicker and better grade ones ie. AWG 0 or something, then sure can see dractic differences

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yes, that's what i was trying to say !
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post Jul 29 2009, 01:43 PM

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I still don't understand. How a thick cable can prevent wastage of electricity through resistance? As for my knowledge, too thick cable will cause voltage drop due to resistance and high cost(cable). If your machine don't running in high amp.
For DB with state of the art capacitor, regulators/invertors, that can reduce the electricity consumption, that I understand.
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TS I think you left out the water heater. Thats the most electric consuming appliances in the house.
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post Jul 29 2009, 08:02 PM

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post Jul 29 2009, 09:02 PM

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there is one product advertised to save electricity...anybody tried that? My electricity bill isn't that much but I am interested in ways to save if it works.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 29 2009, 01:43 PM)
I still don't understand. How a thick cable can prevent wastage of electricity through resistance? As for my knowledge, too thick cable will cause voltage drop due to resistance and high cost(cable). If your machine don't running in high amp.
For DB with state of the art capacitor, regulators/invertors, that can reduce the electricity consumption, that I understand.
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Think of it this way, thicker cables as in wider mm and better grade materials, are like a wider road for electrons, which in most cases will reduce resistence and thus loss of energy in the form of heat. If you but feel your wires, when attach to a high drain device such as a vacuum, the cable tends to be warm after somewhile. Change that to a better power cable and feel the difference tongue.gif

Of course it will cost more but its definitely worth it. But under normal circumstances the contractors/developers will just provide what's adequate sad.gif


Added on July 30, 2009, 7:39 am
QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jul 29 2009, 09:02 PM)
there is one product advertised to save electricity...anybody tried that? My electricity bill isn't that much but I am interested in ways to save if it works.
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It normally works well with older and less efficient induction motor type of equipment such as an old fridge, air conditioners etc. Has virtually zero effect on iron, icandescant lights and such biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Jul 30 2009, 07:35 AM)
Think of it this way, thicker cables as in wider mm and better grade materials, are like a wider road for electrons, which in most cases will reduce resistence and thus loss of energy in the form of heat. If you but feel your wires, when attach to a high drain device such as a vacuum, the cable tends to be warm after somewhile. Change that to a better power cable and feel the difference  tongue.gif

Of course it will cost more but its definitely worth it. But under normal circumstances the contractors/developers will just provide what's adequate sad.gif

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Yes, the cable will get hot if too small for the high power tools. But what about if the cable size is more than enough to carry the amp? I think most of our house can carry more than 15amp. Will change to a bigger wire size will I save more?
Example: The vacuum is using 10amp while the 5mm size cable max can carry is 15amp. So the cable size is more than enough to carry the load. If I change to 100mm size cable which can carry max 30amp, will I save more? Will the vacuum using less amp/power if I change to thicker cable? hmm.gif
Change to a better lower resistance copper wire will reduce heat and can carry higher amp. But at here, where I can find this kind of cable? Can I use speaker cable or audio cable since it is the best conductive cable. thumbup.gif

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