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 High electricity bills, Advice needed.thks.

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post Jul 26 2009, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(pedas126 @ Jul 26 2009, 06:34 PM)
My house got 6 persons, 1 couple in master aircond room, 2 gays in 1 middle room, 1 handsome in middle room, i'm taking the small room.
4 desktop - usage : average 18 hours everyday
2 laptop - usage : average 18 hours everyday
1 1hp aircond - usage : at least 14-16 hours every day
1 washing machine
1 kettle - usage : 4-5 times in 1 months
The latest bills that i got fr tis week is Rm434.70, unit that consumed is 1200Kwh...
do u all think the bills is normal? Advice needed...thks
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Let say desktop 300W x 4 = 1200 x 18 = 21.6KWH
Laptop 200W x 2 = 400 x 18 = 7.2KWH
1 hp = 750 W x 16 = 12KWH

21.6 + 7.2 + 12 = 40.8 x 30 days = 1224 KWH.

Above just rough calculation as desktop power consumption is always fluctuate due to usage, it is not possible that your computer always run at peak load.

So answer, yes, could reach 1200KWH
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post Jul 26 2009, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ragereaver @ Jul 26 2009, 06:48 PM)
I think its better for you to install a timer for those light or change it to the energy efficient light. Last time I'm used to on my porch light for 24 hours + auto water boiler + desktop pc ard 6 hours. Monthly bill was around RM150. Now I change those bulb to those enery efficient + throw away the auto water boiler, immediatly my bill went to around RM110.
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Flourescent light is considered energy efficient already unless one is using old type bulb one.

Water boiler is high energy usage one, at least >1KW one.
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post Jul 31 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Calmman @ Jul 31 2009, 09:56 AM)
Hi, my electricity bill is high also. I feel the culprit is the air cond. Can you help me to work out the electricity cost for air cond. for 3 units at 1HP each for say 8 hours.

Thank you.

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1 HP power air-con generally consumes about 20~30 cents per hour
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post Aug 1 2009, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Calmman @ Jul 31 2009, 06:55 PM)
Is the thermostat setting affects the compressor running time? My room size is 22x14. What is optimum air cond HP?

Kindly teach the basic calculation. rclxms.gif
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Compressor will be shut down when reaching preset temp by you. So if room is too big, it won't able to reach the temp preset ley day 24, so compressor will run non-stop.

I forget the exact figure, but roughly 1 HP is recommended around the size of 12x12, and 1.5HP is suit at around 18x18

I would say 1.5 HP is the optimum for your case.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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post Aug 1 2009, 03:13 PM

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I would think if one is using near the capacity of the cable, by using larger cable, will cause less heat and saving on some resistance as well as bigger size cable having less resistance in the first place. But whether the saving is significant or not, still a lot can be studied and explored.

As for ordinary household the saving a few cents might not able to recoup back what had invested in bigger cable. Just like inverter air-con will save electricity. But if you are using just a few hour per day, the amount of power bill saved might not able to recoup back the extra money fork out to purchase a inverter air-con compared to ordinary one.

Inverter air-cond save electricity but it depends how it is being used. If not the extra money fork out is not worthwhile. If your compressor need to run 100% all the time (under sized), inverter air-con won't able to save you a single cent.

The saving power bill changing from smaller to bigger size cable as stated by forumer could be the previously old smaller cable had crack or deteoriated due to whatever reason in the first place, so by changing the new and bigger cable lead to power bill save.
Just my wild guess.
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post Aug 2 2009, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 2 2009, 11:15 PM)
A little sidetrack - has anyone had issues with their inverters (spoilt, destroyed in power surge, etc). The inverter circuits has electronics and wonder how they stand the test of time against AC circuits.

I know one of my inverter got spoilt before (not an aircond inverter) but a florescent light inverter. It was an el-cheapo, but any electronics will be sensitive to AC currents, depending on the circuit protection. So I was kind of cautious in choosing inverter AC fearing it could result in the same problem as my florescent inverter.

Those who used airconds with inverter > 4 years running (finish pay back period), care to comment?
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Err.... flourescent light got use inverter? Sorry noob in this area.

What the use of inverter in flourescent then?

As far as I knew, inverter is some device that control the current flow once the motor doesn't need so much power. So how this applied on flourescent?
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post Aug 3 2009, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(gunh @ Aug 2 2009, 11:48 PM)
i think what kenny tring to say is not inverter fluorescent light... should be electronic ballast type... this light do not have starter...  Indeed electronic ballast type of fluorescent are not so long lasting from my personnal experience...
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I used it before, those electronic ballast can be not realiable as well, blown 4 of out 6 in one year time(in my case). I noticed all those electronic ballast are mainly from Chapalang brand, seldom got well known producers one. Just my experience.

I wonder why less well known producers want to venture in this area.

Benefit of electronic ballast, your light won't blink blink when switch on, just light up. Other than that, don't see other major benefit of it, especially the reliability side which is the major disadvantage.
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post Aug 6 2009, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(shchoy @ Aug 5 2009, 06:09 PM)
Anyone tried those "Plug-in Electricity Saver" thingy that says can save like X % of electricity?
Does it really work?
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This is being discussed before. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=973128


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post Aug 11 2009, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 11 2009, 10:10 AM)
hi, how does this calculation work? multiply by 4 then multiply by 18? Aircond multiply by 16?
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Those are hours of usage and number of desktop/laptop stated by the origin question.

Electricity bill is calculated in power aka KWH, now is about 30+ cents per KWH

So if your equipment consume 100W and you use it for 10 hours then, 10 x 100 = 1KWH.
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post Aug 12 2009, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Calmman @ Aug 11 2009, 04:59 PM)
Don't mind share on calculation of air cond. consumption(average for 1HP, 1 1/2HP & 2HP) icon_question.gif

Averagely how many watt air cond. consumes?
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In scientific term 1HP = 0.75KW.

But for actual case and actual consumption, it could varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, depended how the motor setup etc issue.

There is no straight accurate answer can be given.

Just a rough guide only.

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