Billed as the first TV to have a true cinema aspect ratio - 21:9. No more horizontal black bars for your DVDs/BDs!

Anyone has reviewed this? Will Philips have a plasma version of this? And how will it affect the 'normal ratio-ed' videos? Will it be stretched?

The Ambilight sounds cool, though

If you watch 1.78:1 film on this thing, it is either stretched to full screen or you view at the native ratio but have black bars at the side.

I wonder how chun is it watching 4:3 astro on this thing? got super smart stretch feature?

Quite many movies are actually 1.85:1 or even 1.78:1 aspect ratios. So, with this new TV, instead of letterbox, we'll get pillarbox. Then we'll still hear people complaining about those black bars on the sides. It'll get even worse for 1.33:1 frame.

I think the current 1.78:1 ratio for TV is the best compromise, not too wide for 1.33:1 and not too narrow for 2.40:1.

Thats the best part....now you can have 2 decoders into one TV!

Right side Liverpool Vs MU, Left side, Roger Federer Vs Nadal.

then the HT will have to split into 2 stereo?

mono left for footie and mono right for tennis..

LMAO!!

If u r lucky can see Stevie G passing ball to Nadal... Federer Serving Van Der Sar...

This post has been edited by zerorulez: Jul 21 2009, 09:55 PM

Compared with building 42-inch Philips from the current product family


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Yeah...I get it...the possibility is limitless, its like two world colliding into one.

I can see two different TV stations doing a game show intertwine on the screen...

Apapulak split two screens? You guys for real?

Anyone experienced the ambilight in existing Philips model where the LEDs behind the panel light up in reference to the current picture to give it a more, err..., 'extended' viewing?

Great thing about 21:9 is you get exactly the 'full screen' size for most movies. For 16:9 TVs, you normally get a much reduced view size than your actual screen size, barring zooming.

Philips is bringing in only the 56". RM20K!!!

The Ambilight looks distracting to me.

that tv should have auto curtain like cinema so can tutup the pillarbox when needed

then u will have 2 layer of pillar boxes... won't make any difference..

Later someone will tell U 20k for LCD is stupid. Better top up a bit and buy 4*P50S10 and view in quad-fullHD.

Wah! 56" for RM20K. Sumore it's a Philip.

20K is because it has a whopping 2,560 x 1,080-pixel screen (that’s better than normal HDTVs with 1,920x1,080-pixel resolution), 200Hz refresh rate, five HDMI inputs and uses a CCFL (cold cathode fluorescent lamp) backlight.

eh please dont diss philips.......i had a samsung replaced with a philips...and it has been great for the past 2.5yrs

by the way...the ambilight actually is quite comfortable to my eyes.

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i agree.... i have a phillips as well and i find it way betta compared to my frens sharp n sammy and even some panny models(LCD of course)

I notice that phillips doesnt agressively market their products much compared to brands like samsung and all..very hard to find reviews in magazines of many of their tvs even.. i wonder y

Philips let their product do the talking, Almost all of my personal care and household appliances are from Philips. But no AV stuff yet.

their dvd players were quite good....esp since they brought in divx playback

I've always wanted a Philips LCD, but their prices are sky high.

Philips's higher end product line is really good.. Dont expect too much from its low end product line with low price tag..

Is that superior or inferior to LEDs?

Of course, because its made of fluorescent lamp backlight, you can easily go to the local hardware shop to get a few spare

haha..joking only...

Don't forget to get new starter and/or ballast each time you change the fluorescent tube

LED is better in terms of energy efficiency, lighting consistency, but more expensive due to the limited use compared to the more mature CCFL lighting.

Thats what I thought, thus wondering why Philips would use that instead of LED. Well, cost is a factor, I know.

Or could this be just something they need to push out in the market first (since they are falling behind the Japanese in terms of TV hype) until they fully develop their LED backlits?

I saw it at KLIAV show.....looks damn chun!

wait untill you wanna read those sub-title in the black bar previously....
it's hard coded into that and won't show up in the picture if you watch 2.35:1
lots of complaint from those elite pj owner watching at this ratio

I read somewhere last week that Philips just released a new BD player that would allow you to place your subtitle anywhere on the TV screen (bottom, top, middle, anywhere you like) ... it's not hardcoded anyway (that's why you can on and off it and change language also). This completely solves the issue with people opting for full cinemascope (2.35:1) or CIH - constant image height (2.20:1) screen format. sweet

Saw this in the Bangkok AV fair. No stretching but it crops the top and bottom. They were playing Wanted movie.

Showcased at the KL AV Fair, first impression is - darn wide! Must get used to it. I suppose it is necessary to have sufficient viewing distance unless you want to develop yr neck muscles.

The Ambilight - it changes proactively with the BG and the response time is fast! Though how much it increases your viewing pleasure in the long run, I dunno. The demo place is too bright IMHO to really appreciate/test the Ambilight.

I feel that although the idea is good the practicality is not there...how many hours a day wud u spend watching BD & how many on Astro? For me it's probably 20-80 so if it's only good for 20% of time then it's probably not worth it.

I'd really be interested to see the stretched output when playing Astro..see Nadal or tall van der sar turned into hobbits...

i dont watch astro.......

watch astro? if u wanna watch astro so much, go get a CRT TV la bro.. for astro

Saw it at KLIAV..colour is more natural, not saturated as most LCD..black level is good...

This post has been edited by piscesguy: Jul 25 2009, 07:48 AM

haha...thats what everyone said when they introduce the 16:9 from 4:3.......now its the21:9 from 16:9......

I wonder...in 10 years time....what will the ratio be?
I bet we will practically move our head left to right to watch whats going on on the other side ..so rather than stick to 3 speakers in front (L,R,C), now they have to put 5 speakers (L, MidL, R,MidR, 1 long center)

This post has been edited by azbro: Jul 25 2009, 10:19 AM

yeah CRT best.. still got a 15year old 34inch sony trinitron.. looks dem good with astro S10/kuro plasma also cannot fight..

I guess the trend is pretty much stable for now - 4:3 for normal terrestrial broadcast. 16:9 for HD broadcasts. 21:9 for cinemas.

My bet for the next TV evolution could be built-in 3D processing chips in the TV itself, like the ones from nVidia. No more rubbish red/green 3D nonsense. (well, thats what I am hoping anyway )

Back to the Philips, I believe for RM20K a pop, those who buy will use it for dedicated HT rooms for movie watching ONLY.

then better get something like an optoma HD82/8200 rite? why settler for a 55inche. so tiny image for 20k....

How much are those babies?

click on htkaki's sig..

htkaki, please reserve me some commision..

This post has been edited by ar188: Jul 25 2009, 10:53 PM

just let u guy know philip have update this model with 3d function, 400mhz and led backlight which i saw in KL desa and man is damn good which got me consider for my next upgrade from my samsung 9 series (46inch)....maybe next year this tv is my upgrade...look good too.

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Current Samsung 3DTV already have ability to convert 2D to 3D by itself. But convert cannot give best quality 3D experience.