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Philips Cinema 21:9
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wackojacko
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Jul 23 2009, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(rthj @ Jul 23 2009, 03:31 PM) eh please dont diss philips.......i had a samsung replaced with a philips...and it has been great for the past 2.5yrs by the way...the ambilight actually is quite comfortable to my eyes. i agree.... i have a phillips as well and i find it way betta compared to my frens sharp n sammy and even some panny models(LCD of course) I notice that phillips doesnt agressively market their products much compared to brands like samsung and all..very hard to find reviews in magazines of many of their tvs even.. i wonder y
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kianwee
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Jul 23 2009, 04:09 PM
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Philips let their product do the talking, Almost all of my personal care and household appliances are from Philips. But no AV stuff yet.
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wackojacko
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Jul 23 2009, 04:16 PM
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their dvd players were quite good....esp since they brought in divx playback
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chewkl
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Jul 23 2009, 04:18 PM
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Peasant
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I've always wanted a Philips LCD, but their prices are sky high.
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accs_centre
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Jul 23 2009, 05:15 PM
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Philips's higher end product line is really good.. Dont expect too much from its low end product line with low price tag..
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TSLone*Wolf
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Jul 23 2009, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jul 23 2009, 03:23 PM) 20K is because it has a whopping 2,560 x 1,080-pixel screen (that’s better than normal HDTVs with 1,920x1,080-pixel resolution), 200Hz refresh rate, five HDMI inputs and uses a CCFL (cold cathode fluorescent lamp) backlight. Is that superior or inferior to LEDs?
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azbro
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Jul 23 2009, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Jul 23 2009, 07:29 PM) Is that superior or inferior to LEDs? Of course, because its made of fluorescent lamp backlight, you can easily go to the local hardware shop to get a few spare haha..joking only...
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richard912
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Jul 23 2009, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 23 2009, 08:03 PM) Of course, because its made of fluorescent lamp backlight, you can easily go to the local hardware shop to get a few spare Don't forget to get new starter and/or ballast each time you change the fluorescent tube
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piscesguy
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Jul 23 2009, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Jul 23 2009, 07:29 PM) Is that superior or inferior to LEDs? LED is better in terms of energy efficiency, lighting consistency, but more expensive due to the limited use compared to the more mature CCFL lighting.
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TSLone*Wolf
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Jul 23 2009, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Jul 23 2009, 09:26 PM) LED is better in terms of energy efficiency, lighting consistency, but more expensive due to the limited use compared to the more mature CCFL lighting. Thats what I thought, thus wondering why Philips would use that instead of LED. Well, cost is a factor, I know. Or could this be just something they need to push out in the market first (since they are falling behind the Japanese in terms of TV hype) until they fully develop their LED backlits?
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richard912
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Jul 24 2009, 04:16 PM
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I saw it at KLIAV show.....looks damn chun!
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mpyw
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Jul 24 2009, 04:32 PM
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wait untill you wanna read those sub-title in the black bar previously.... it's hard coded into that and won't show up in the picture if you watch 2.35:1 lots of complaint from those elite pj owner watching at this ratio
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putih
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Jul 24 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jul 24 2009, 04:32 PM) wait untill you wanna read those sub-title in the black bar previously.... it's hard coded into that and won't show up in the picture if you watch 2.35:1 lots of complaint from those elite pj owner watching at this ratio I read somewhere last week that Philips just released a new BD player that would allow you to place your subtitle anywhere on the TV screen (bottom, top, middle, anywhere you like) ... it's not hardcoded anyway (that's why you can on and off it and change language also). This completely solves the issue with people opting for full cinemascope (2.35:1) or CIH - constant image height (2.20:1) screen format. sweet
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Bishop
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Jul 24 2009, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Jul 21 2009, 07:21 PM) Billed as the first TV to have a true cinema aspect ratio - 21:9. No more horizontal black bars for your DVDs/BDs! Anyone has reviewed this? Will Philips have a plasma version of this? And how will it affect the 'normal ratio-ed' videos? Will it be stretched? The Ambilight sounds cool, though  Saw this in the Bangkok AV fair. No stretching but it crops the top and bottom. They were playing Wanted movie.
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TSLone*Wolf
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Jul 24 2009, 11:54 PM
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Showcased at the KL AV Fair, first impression is - darn wide! Must get used to it. I suppose it is necessary to have sufficient viewing distance unless you want to develop yr neck muscles.
The Ambilight - it changes proactively with the BG and the response time is fast! Though how much it increases your viewing pleasure in the long run, I dunno. The demo place is too bright IMHO to really appreciate/test the Ambilight.
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daryl.k
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Jul 24 2009, 11:55 PM
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I feel that although the idea is good the practicality is not there...how many hours a day wud u spend watching BD & how many on Astro? For me it's probably 20-80 so if it's only good for 20% of time then it's probably not worth it.
I'd really be interested to see the stretched output when playing Astro..see Nadal or tall van der sar turned into hobbits...
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rthj
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Jul 25 2009, 12:21 AM
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i dont watch astro.......
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ronnt88
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Jul 25 2009, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jul 24 2009, 11:55 PM) I feel that although the idea is good the practicality is not there...how many hours a day wud u spend watching BD & how many on Astro? For me it's probably 20-80 so if it's only good for 20% of time then it's probably not worth it. I'd really be interested to see the stretched output when playing Astro..see Nadal or tall van der sar turned into hobbits...  watch astro? if u wanna watch astro so much, go get a CRT TV la bro..  for astro
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piscesguy
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Jul 25 2009, 07:47 AM
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Saw it at KLIAV..colour is more natural, not saturated as most LCD..black level is good...
This post has been edited by piscesguy: Jul 25 2009, 07:48 AM
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azbro
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Jul 25 2009, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jul 24 2009, 11:55 PM) I feel that although the idea is good the practicality is not there...how many hours a day wud u spend watching BD & how many on Astro? For me it's probably 20-80 so if it's only good for 20% of time then it's probably not worth it. I'd really be interested to see the stretched output when playing Astro..see Nadal or tall van der sar turned into hobbits... haha...thats what everyone said when they introduce the 16:9 from 4:3.......now its the21:9 from 16:9...... I wonder...in 10 years time....what will the ratio be? I bet we will practically move our head left to right to watch whats going on on the other side ..so rather than stick to 3 speakers in front (L,R,C), now they have to put 5 speakers (L, MidL, R,MidR, 1 long center) This post has been edited by azbro: Jul 25 2009, 10:19 AM
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