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 ASUS k40AB/k50AB: HD 4570 for just RM2K!, Light gaming on the cheap

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post Jul 20 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(sordanny @ Jul 20 2009, 01:54 PM)
the game is left 4 dead
but i did not have this problem on a pc......
same dvd used to install
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What is the lappie you playing? Since you mention it's the same dvd, it's not the game problem then. DL Hwmonitor and check your temp when playing, espcially the gpu.
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post Jul 20 2009, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(sordanny @ Jul 20 2009, 03:43 PM)
nop laptop is vista home premium
desktop is xp

but i hope disabling multicore rendering in game will solve the crashing problem....
anyone can confirm?
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I had l4d on my desktop with vista ultimate 32 bit and no problem. Your laptop OS is 32 or 64 bit? What's your laptop cpu and gpu, maybe it have bad design or what, try playing other game and if that don crash den maybe it's your l4d problem.

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post Jul 20 2009, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(sordanny @ Jul 20 2009, 03:57 PM)
both are 32 bit OS
my brother tested on the K40AB i bought him - game crash
exchanged to gateway nv4803 - same
my wife's pink vaio - same

but strange my desktop no problems with it
i hope disabling multicore rendering will solve the problem....
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Crash on 3 laptop!!! The game just hate you so much laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Well, this mean it's not hardware problem and not driver problem too. Try other games and see if it crash, if it doesnt, then i think your just not suitable to play L4D tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(sordanny @ Jul 20 2009, 04:25 PM)
serious????
but i installed norton 360 and it did not detect any threats????
the shop keeper did told me that do not use the autorun function and manually click on setup.exe to install....
erm well it did work on the desktop.......

and yea about nvidia drivers which 1 is best for g105m?
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Since you mention it crash on all 3 of your laptop, i doubt new driver would help at all
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post Jul 20 2009, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 20 2009, 05:21 PM)
go flying spaghetti monster forum take a look, that's all i got to say... laugh.gif
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Isn't that a PARODY about bible and Christianity? I find it quite interesting and amusing as I, myself is an Atheist sweat.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(deentk_1987 @ Jul 20 2009, 05:33 PM)
i'm confused, the k40ab's processor is amd athlon or amd turion?
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Read first page doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Jul 20 2009, 05:49 PM)
which shop sell K40AB based on amd turion ZM-84?
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At present, none of i known. It's not a big difference actually, you would achive much better performance thru OC
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post Jul 22 2009, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bel0V3 @ Jul 22 2009, 03:59 PM)
i dun need too high-end spec ler... coz my purpose is to play some online games..but i was hoping for aion online..so hopefully can get one compatible to it lo..

i actually been reading all the post for few days liaw...but no matter how i search only asus with HD4570 stands out lo....but scare later it melts ler while playing...hahahhaa
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What make you THINK that it will melt? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Even these pentium M that can reach 110'C never have any problem, your laptop would only melt if there are any faulty part inside, like the notorious G8 series timebomb...
But since you have a high budget, you could look at other higher end modal, imho.

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post Jul 22 2009, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Klez @ Jul 22 2009, 05:26 PM)
hi guys, just wanna ask, can this lappy play worldofwarcraft? what's the fps looks like? can anyone help me to test it, thx
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WoW shud have no problem at all, unless you playing at a very high resolution


Added on July 22, 2009, 6:14 pm
QUOTE(vincent7474 @ Jul 22 2009, 06:05 PM)
erm..pad cooler can reduce the temp ? i am thinking to buy a alu cooler ..
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Notepad cooler might able to cool down laptop a bit, depend on the ambient temeprature as air-con room would help too. But all of these are INSIGNIFICANT compare to undervolting, you can reduce the temp by 10-20'C, there are a forumer using TIM with undervolting achieve lower then 30'C idle temp.

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post Jul 22 2009, 07:03 PM

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I think should be still valid, I had call Dell b4 and they told me the warranty still valid even if we change the ram or hdd. I expect the same form Asus biggrin.gif

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post Jul 24 2009, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jul 24 2009, 03:16 PM)
So far does anyone experience high temperature with this laptop while playing game?

Will it lag when it reach certain temp? My friend' Compaq v3700(AMD) after playing dota for 30mins even-though gpu temp stay at 81 degree, if no laptop cooler, it can easily hit 90 degree and lag until can't play dota at all.
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Please do realize that Compaq v3000 series heating problem have nothing to do with AMD, Nuff'said......
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jul 24 2009, 05:52 PM)
yeah totally agree with you  smile.gif 

what you expect for a cheap lappie ? . afraid of heat . get intel based laptop + dedicated gc .  nod.gif
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AFAIK, it would heat up as well, problem isnt abt amd or intel, problem is the compact size of lappies restrict any effective cooling.
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post Jul 24 2009, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jul 24 2009, 07:50 PM)
most of the time I hear that it is VERY HOT,
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Yeah it is indeed VERY HOT, my brisbane idle at 30'C, so D@MN hot.....


Added on July 24, 2009, 9:31 pm
QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jul 24 2009, 07:50 PM)
I don't play heavy games, just l4d or The Sims 3.
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These game you mention would have no problem at all unless you play at very high resolution and AA.

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post Jul 25 2009, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Jul 25 2009, 04:03 PM)
Generally DDR3 > DDR2 - Its memory speed

Think of it is BMW 3 series (DDR2) vs BMW 7 series (DDR3). Generally DDR3 is faster , and it just beats the crap out of DDR2 - in terms of power consumption , speed and such
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Generally, you are right, but keep in mind higher speed resulted in loosen memory timing too, which mean not much different in the end, at least for now.


Added on July 25, 2009, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 25 2009, 06:41 PM)
agree with both feet up. Becoz intel and amd had different memory controller. Intel had best combination when both same speed to eliminate bottleneck on whether side. AMD which having better experience in designing memory controller embedded.
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Well, Intel just rip-off the AMD Hyper-Transport and name it QPI or whatever on their i7, i5 and i3.
Which mean AMD have nothing to fight with intel now..... The olny thing they can do is cut, cut and cut their cpu price to remain competitive, Which is good for us, consumers laugh.gif


Added on July 25, 2009, 7:19 pm
QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 25 2009, 12:17 AM)
lolz.. so Turion will be a much better offer.. but wonder why its not available in malaysia.. uh.. any chance there will be ppl offering turion in pc fair? a singapore company? lolz..

i have zero knowledge on the processor stuffs.. haha.. all i know turion saves mroe power and cooler eh..

well.. rm300-400.. it cost quite a sum eh.. i guess.. im left with pirated vista as choice..
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Turion and Athlon have almost the same performance. Keep in mind only the Turion ultra ZM series have larger L2 cache, the normal turion have only 1mb L2cache just like their Athlon brother.

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post Jul 25 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 25 2009, 07:27 PM)
Athlon is 512KB only la... laugh.gif


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Ummm ok, maybe i shud be more specific sweat.gif

Athlon QL = 512kbx2 L2cache = 1mb total
Turion RM = '''''''''''''''''''same''''''''''''''''''''

Turion Ultra ZM = 1mbx2 l2cache = 2mb total



Now I hope there would be no more people asking about why only athlon and no turion......... doh.gif



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QUOTE(sheikomatic @ Jul 25 2009, 07:45 PM)
I'm not asking the RAM, I'm asking about the type of VRAM on the 4570..
is it DDR2, DDR3 or GDDR3.. its depends to the manufacturer to choose which one..

anyone knows about the type of VRAM on the k40ab?
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IIRC, Najmod told me that 4570 on the k40ab is using ddr2 Vram, not that it make much different anyway, with its puny 64 bit bus-width....
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post Jul 26 2009, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 26 2009, 07:55 PM)
so.. if i wanna get it working in 800Mhz.. i'll have to overclock my processor adi eh.. which is a necessity for K40ab users?
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Not necessary unless you are serious enthusiast and KNOW what you are doing. For me tho, I give up on Dell due to the fact it cant be oc tongue.gif
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QUOTE(astria @ Jul 26 2009, 07:58 PM)
overclock also no use...

u need a Turion x2 instead...
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Err, you sure abt this? We can just oc the HTT speed. Unless it's locked as in the case of C2D doh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 08:15 PM

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Prototype is not really that hard on hardware like crysis or gta4. Mind telling me what resolution you play at? I assume on medium setting?
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post Jul 26 2009, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 26 2009, 08:21 PM)
ouch.. means my additional 2gb 800Mhz will not be fully utilised..

hopefully.. theres ppl selling turion in pc fair.. lolz..

btw.. any chance to check whether its athlon or turion? just see sticker oni?
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Get over these 667 or 800 stuff. It don't matter a bit for average user.

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