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empire23
post Jul 23 2009, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 23 2009, 09:35 PM)
People need to understand that words of logic, reason, and fact sometimes DON'T WORK.

However, violence on the other hand, always work for the one who remain standing, i.e. the victor.

Both have consequences, nevertheless.
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What works, works. And sometimes the ends do justify the means. Even logic and reason sometimes dictate the use of force at certain points.

Not all the world is filled with egalitarians. If i wanted to harm your family for my own material advantage, wouldn't it be logical you react with force?

I'm not going to reason with the robber entering my house at night, do what you want peaceniks, if he doesn't leave when challenged, i will open fire.
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post Jul 23 2009, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 23 2009, 10:06 PM)
What works, works. And sometimes the ends do justify the means. Even logic and reason sometimes dictate the use of force at certain points.

Not all the world is filled with egalitarians. If i wanted to harm your family for my own material advantage, wouldn't it be logical you react with force?

I'm not going to reason with the robber entering my house at night, do what you want peaceniks, if he doesn't leave when challenged, i will open fire.
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Exactly my point.

Too bad I'm actually directing this to dreamer101, at the expense of your intellect.

And I dodge bullets.
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post Jul 24 2009, 01:43 AM

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we war for land. greed of mankind
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post Jul 24 2009, 10:37 AM

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post Jul 26 2009, 02:59 AM

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Now for a science related view for this thread

war, or rather the expectation of it, spurs modern non-health based tech research. Certainly not the only form of encouragement, but definitely a major one.

remember, teh nets came from DARPA, which was there for the MILITARY research(ok, so its defense, which brings us back to the expectation of war). and GPS came from US air force.

without military funding, those fat cats in business suits will probably squeeze the scientists and researchers. Not all research generates profit, and as long as it doesn't generate immediate profit, most business aren't going to fund such research. Honda seems to be the only exception i can think of.

Oh, and don't forget the space race, which was during the cold WAR. We got satellites and space travel from that. Though I admit the arms race went in the wrong direction...

Some ppl here seem to be implying that experiments might wipe us all out, so what? stop all the big and pioneering experiments just because there are risks involved? if everyone thought like that, all research can stop since there are always ways to abuse technology.

ME WANTS EXOSKEL NAIW

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post Jul 27 2009, 07:17 PM

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If religions are the monument of self-importance, then war must be the epitome of self-importance.
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post Jul 28 2009, 10:59 PM

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have you guys watched Zeitgeist the movie?

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