Folks,

War is ONLY possible with the existence of LARGE number of STUPID and IGNORANCE people.  Without that, the worst that can happen is small scale gangster warfare.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

WAR is a HIGHLY ORGANIZED affair involving LARGE NUMBER of people.  It can ONLY happen with the support of LARGE NUMBER of people.  Only if LARGE NUMBER of PEOPLE are STUPID and IGNORANCE, they can be ORGANIZED into waging WAR.  Anything less than that, you cannot have LARGE SCALE WAR.  It is just a small scale skirmishes.

Gangster are NOT capable of waging full scale war.  Only a country with the support of LARGE NUMBER of STUPID and IGNORANCE PEOPLE can do that.

So, STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE in a LARGE SCALE is the cause of WAR.  As to whether people use sword, rock, arrows, guns to fight, it is IRRELEVANT.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

Let me throw the question back to YOU.

Is WAR justifiable??

If not, isn't it STUPID and IGNORANCE for LARGE NUMBER of PEOPLE to waste their lives and resource on this effort??  The RULING CLASS has something to gain.  But, how do the PEASANTS get of this?? Nothing...

Read chapter 1 of "Art of War" by Sun Tzu

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

People do not CHOOSE WAR.  The ruler choose it for them.  Then, they use PROPAGANDA to CON them into supporting IT.  So, STUPID and IGNORANCE people get CONNED into supporting the WAR.  Then, WAR is possible.

Have you EVER really study history of WARS to begin with??  Stop buying into those PROPAGANDA BS that people choose WAR.

So, it was not a PERSONAL choice.  A person cannot WAGE WAR.  It takes a COUNTRY.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

If MAJORITY of German people do not support Hitler, is WAR possible??

Ditto, if MAJORITY of the North in USA do not support Abraham Lincoln, is WAR possible??

Isn't this BASIC common sense?? WAR is NOT possible without the support of LARGE number of people.

Who say so?? WAR is ORGANIZED Violence.  It is ONLY possible with the ORGANIZATION and SUPPORT of large number of people.  Only with the existence of country aka nation state, WAR is possible.  In the old day, the largest conflist is ONLY between one tribe / village versus another.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

<<And do you understand why ORGANIZED VIOLENCE is needed?>>

Organized Violence is NOT needed.

Human may have violence tendency.  But, in order for ORGANIZED VIOLENCE such as WAR to happen, it needs

A) The ORGANIZER

B) People willing to be ORGANIZED

Without (A) and (B), it cannot happen.

And, for (B), the PEASANT aka FOOLS, they GAINED NOTHING from WAR.  They lose their lives and much munch more.  So, it is KIND to call them STUPID and IGNORANCE.

Stupid is Stupid does.
- Forrest Gump
It is VERY SIMPLE.  If you want to stop WAR, we need to get rid of the mind set that WAR is necessary and needed.  Now, if you do not want to stop WAR, what is there to discuss?? People can blame rock, stone, arrows, and guns for killing people in the WAR.

Read "Art of War" by Sun Tzu.  Sun Tzu has a very impartial and honest view of what war is.  It is JUST a political tool by the ruler.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

<< What I am really trying to make you understand is why an individual or a.k.a. the organizer/the war-starter can SURPASS his/her own CONSCIENCE and make strong RESOLVES to NOT CARE about the casualties of war, and decided to start one anyway.>>

I understand perfectly well about that.  It is VERY SIMPLE.  Some people are BUSYBODY.  They like to have the POWER to interfere with other people's life.  So, when they have the POWER, they do it.  They THINK and BELIEVE that they SHOULD tell people how to live their lives.  And, if people disagree, they deserve to die.

Those people always existed.  They could only do the greatest EVIL if others do not stand up to them.

Some BUDYBODIES justify their action by the basis of RACE, RELIGION and so on.  But, the TRUTH is they like the power.  It has NOTHING to do with RACE, RELIGION and so on.  But, the masses are STUPID and IGNORANCE to buy into that.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

I TIRED of repeating myself over and over again.  If the MASSES do not support those busybodies, WAR cannot happen.  It is as simple as that.  Why can't you understand that??

WAR only allow provide POWER to the ruler and no one else.  The MASSES have nothing to gain.

Dreamer

Deadlocks,

<<And that's how I questioned your initial justifications of when you stated that these war-starters are stupid, and u]ignorant[/u].>>

You DO NOT READ very well.  I said (B) are STUPID and IGNORANT.  I did not say (A).

Dreamer

War is just another tool in the box of trinkets we can use. Actually one of the most effective as violence is primal and fear of violence shakes individuals to their core. The only solution is counter violence sometimes, and people who don't believe in it's application and use and certainly foolish.

In a world of peaceful people, the 1 man willing to use violence to further his means is king.

What works, works. And sometimes the ends do justify the means. Even logic and reason sometimes dictate the use of force at certain points.

Not all the world is filled with egalitarians. If i wanted to harm your family for my own material advantage, wouldn't it be logical you react with force?

I'm not going to reason with the robber entering my house at night, do what you want peaceniks, if he doesn't leave when challenged, i will open fire.