I quote of Einstein's regret news:



Often I kept wondering, aliens will never invade such a dangerous planet like Earth where we are pointing our own weapons at ourselves.
Perhaps there will never be unity among all humans at all forever.
Again I quote from Einstein, "... so long as there are men, there will be war.."

Can there possibly be anything else more powerful and dangerous than the atomic bomb?
Of course there is, we just never caught glimpse of it yet.

To say powerful and dangerous, is quite subjective.
There are more than hundreds of categories of it, ranging from long range, to close-combat, to aerial, to land, to sea, to space, to psychological, to anything else unimaginable.

This is an open discussion on the current military weapons from all over the world and what lies in the future.
What has science done to us?!

I strongly believe the existence of the nuclear bomb isn't a bad thing, in fact it may be the main reason the world as we know it now isn't in a total world war.

Consider this, during the Cold War if there wasn't a nuclear deterrent the US and Soviets would have engaged in conventional warfare many many times over. The idea of MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, is scary enough to deter either side from starting a war. It would be easier to NOT go to war and stay in peace then go to war and try to avoid using nukes.

Consider the amount of human fatalities in the hands of nukes compared to all the automated firearm technology which was based on the Gatling gun, nuclear weapons aren't as terrible as it seems.

Nukes aside, i would think the biggest threat that we have in terms of weapons are biological weapons and IEDs, the latter coupled with fanatics/psychos is a very real threat today.

On a side note, even a pencil is deadly in the hands of wrong people.

Such ideas for war it's about defending yourselves by attacking others who may seemed to appear to be capable of attacking FIRST.

So, in short:

Offense is the best defense.

Folks,

War is ONLY possible with the existence of LARGE number of STUPID and IGNORANCE people. Without that, the worst that can happen is small scale gangster warfare.

Dreamer

i find that statement true. moreover, war exists because of differences and greed in human. there is always insecurity among us even in our daily life. on a small scale, even sibling rivalry which cause negative result either jealousy, insecurity, spitefulness and others.

however, i dont think that we can solve this inferior complex desire of US HUMAN as it is built into us by our creator. maybe there will be a weapon SO POWERFUL, it removes the urge to be better than other people. then, maybe we will stop pointing weapon at each others.

with great power comes great responsibility, however human heart is insatiable

jcmf,

WAR is highly ORGANIZED and REQUIRED extreme amount of LOGISTIC. It can ONLY happen with LARGE SCALE of STUPIDITY with SUPPORT from large number of people.

Petty things like sibling rivalry can only result damage to a small number of people.

So, DO NOT COMPARE those things with WAR. They are TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

Dreamer

Unity is only an idea that not many people across culture, continent, religion, creed and so on may not share or even practice.

Biasness, prejudice, spite, jealousy and intolerance so on breeds the perfect ingredients for us to kill each other.

When ideas clash some may resort to a compromise, but some may use force to impose ideas on others. (thinking that it is right)

the sole purpose of having a military is to defend ones belief..

needless to say history presents us with numerous reasons why a country needs to have military until today.

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In the future, may be we will achieve unity, wars among civilisation may come to an abrupt end. Nevertheless, we will still need to retain our capability to fight...

who knows what lies beyond the last frontiers of space?

or may be a piece of coment hurling towards earth?

in the war agreement. nuclear weapons can't be drop during war technically..since the hagasaki and hiroshima incident..its actually a technological warfare race between countries(russia and usa during coldwar) then, everybody want to participate in the race. nuclear power=technological advance..but i fear later in future, this nuclear holocaust will soon be true, since some countries are not bonded with this agreement(n.korea and iran)

-Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons!

why not?
human oledi over population which being a threat to this planet
nuclear weapon is the best , fast and efficient way to reduce human population

Based on the first post in this thread, a letter written using a pen caused nuclear weapons to be created so a pen can be mightier than automatic weapons. Not to mention automatic weapons were probably designed by a pen wielding person.

Naw.. in today's paper-less office. They're all done via computer.

ya, everyone noe that. actually the quote was by General MacArthur..he's a general..
sos

On the other hand, if humankind wasn't constantly thinking of new ways for killing each other, we'll probably be still in the stone ages.

Think penicillin, jet engine, anti-biotics, surgery, advancement in computers etc..... and Band of Brothers, COD franchise, Gundams, Macross.... and the list goes on.

War causes inflation and military weapons kills humans indirectly too.
Every resources spent on making weapons doesn't gives anything in return, e.g. you build a school, your children get to use the school. But you build a missile and fires it, it's gone.

Wrong.

The US War effort during WW2 directly pulled them out of the great depression.

When u give ppl a war, u give them an enemy. In other words a sense of direction. Even if they lose, they have the potential to come out of it better than they were. Japan would be an excellent case studyl.

who cares about war????????!!!


if there's a war at the place tat u r residing, then move away lah...wat for wait to be bomb??>>

anyway...we wun live forever, so if humans wanna fight, let them fight lah...let our children of the future fight among themselves and self-destruct lah...

wat for care so much when u dun even live forever at all???!!...


this issue is like discussing about the environemtn...

Please explain.

When a war occurs, there will be death, hunger, spreading of diseases, poverty, fear, basically everything that humans naturally avoid. So, of course war is something that people care about, and try to avoid. If people could just move about freely during a war, not so many lives would not have been lost. During the Japanese invasion of Malaysia, do you think Malaysians could just go wherever they like? There were checkpoints everywhere and they had strict control on movement and curfews.

Just because we are all going to die doesn't mean we should just war happen. Death is unavoidable, but the number of deaths during a war is much higher than during peace time. The effects of war are undesirable so why do you advocate war?



It's just like saying since we will get hungry eventually, even after eating, why bother eating?

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Jul 15 2009, 12:56 AM

Deadlocks,

WAR is a HIGHLY ORGANIZED affair involving LARGE NUMBER of people. It can ONLY happen with the support of LARGE NUMBER of people. Only if LARGE NUMBER of PEOPLE are STUPID and IGNORANCE, they can be ORGANIZED into waging WAR. Anything less than that, you cannot have LARGE SCALE WAR. It is just a small scale skirmishes.

Gangster are NOT capable of waging full scale war. Only a country with the support of LARGE NUMBER of STUPID and IGNORANCE PEOPLE can do that.

So, STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE in a LARGE SCALE is the cause of WAR. As to whether people use sword, rock, arrows, guns to fight, it is IRRELEVANT.

Dreamer