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post Aug 3 2009, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(akagidemon @ Aug 2 2009, 06:31 PM)
rideon, u know the drill, pictures please.


Added on August 2, 2009, 8:09 pmthis is fat or obese

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off topic. just to spice the thread. a few photos on my way back from Miri.

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post Aug 3 2009, 12:58 AM

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Hi all i m from t's member , i found tht i jus luv to scorpion n plan to buy AFS , bt from my frenz information AFS scorpionling takes time to grow....so plan to gt adult AFS , is there any place can gt?or any recommended seller?i also 1 2 ask WC AFS adult hw to make sure them dun hav sickness n mites problem?sry newbie here
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QUOTE(wp188 @ Aug 3 2009, 01:58 AM)
Hi all i m from t's member , i found tht i jus luv to scorpion n plan to buy AFS , bt from my frenz information AFS scorpionling takes time to grow....so plan to gt adult AFS , is there any place can gt?or any recommended seller?i also 1 2 ask WC AFS adult hw to make sure them dun hav sickness n mites problem?sry newbie here
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hi ...wherer are you located @ .. if u are located in places like johor babru , AFS are almost in every pet shop smile.gif


Added on August 3, 2009, 1:01 amHi guys...

my friend back hometown juz wired some pics to me smile.gif
it seems like my L.m molted tongue.gif
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Added on August 3, 2009, 1:01 amThe h.h also molted too tongue.gif
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i alwys been rear h.h in coco-fibre ... it seems like they do well in and and coco mixture too .. so far molting no problem smile.gif


Added on August 3, 2009, 1:02 amThe a.a hector been eating alot tongue.gif
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Added on August 3, 2009, 1:02 amso is the LQ tongue.gif lol still eating tongue.gif
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post Aug 3 2009, 01:02 AM

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i oso need to find adult male AFS.. searching for people who sells below rm14.. hehe

WC without mites prob? scrutinize them closely.. like akagi does.. watch their body closely.. (im sure it will make ur eye balls pop out.. very tiring process..lol..)

wahh, love to see those fat fat hectors and lqs!! fat fat grow fast!! grow fast!!! lol

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post Aug 3 2009, 01:11 AM

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@Lester.. damn man... the hector is really a tennis ball now... damn man... haiz....
as for the sale of AFS you can ask our friendly scorp guy... Rafiqos.. he has some for sale...
i have 2 adult male.. but i dont intend to sell them just yet.. just for breeding loan...
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post Aug 3 2009, 01:21 AM

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errr. i dont think rafiqos has any adults for sale.
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post Aug 3 2009, 01:24 AM

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er... ok... then only me meh got adult male.. lol...
but not for sale just yet la..
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post Aug 3 2009, 02:03 AM

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oi i also got la. but not for sale. research purposes only

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QUOTE(s98432512 @ Aug 3 2009, 12:22 AM)
hi rideon... i have tried that experiemnt myself before..
personally these are my findings from my research ...

when the afs scorpling are house together .. they grew the fastest but the lag between the scopling molthing were abt one month different from the 1st scopling molting and the last scorpling molting
this might be due to competition of food etc and the 1st to molt will be the boss.... to show the rest who is the boss

When afs scorpling are house own it own they tend to molt the slowest.. taking forever to molt .... with compare to afs scolping house together .. the different can different by almost 2 months,
my afs scolpings all molted and it is only after 1.5 - 2 months that my afs scorplings that own its own start to molt......one by one .. reasons were unknow........ even tot they were all from the same batch ...

i did not conduct any experiment housing the scopling with their mum as i believe that the mum will consume the little ones when it start to be hungry .. it juz the matter of when it start hungry ....
do take note on tat ..

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Nice info...I think the reason is bcos when house 2gether,every1 is competing to get the food.So in order to survive frm this,they hav to grow faster to bcome bigger and stronger.Plus,they dun wan to bcome food to others,so they hav to grow faster.

When housing alone,they actually didnt knw about the "competition" and nothing is competing to get the food frm them.Hence,they just relax and enjoy the food without worries and molt when they like to.

But i think those house alone splings molt period is the normal 1 for the sp. as they din try to grow faster
Just my tots smile.gif

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post Aug 3 2009, 02:29 AM

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true.true. it is natural for any animals that are living communally to grow faster in order to not be bullied or die.

just look at birds that bear 2 chicks. usually 1 chick will outgrow the other and usually the other chick will die.
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post Aug 3 2009, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(Izzulogy @ Aug 3 2009, 02:02 AM)
i oso need to find adult male AFS.. searching for people who sells below rm14.. hehe

WC without mites prob? scrutinize them closely.. like akagi does.. watch their body closely.. (im sure it will make ur eye balls pop out.. very tiring process..lol..)

wahh, love to see those fat fat hectors and lqs!! fat fat grow fast!! grow fast!!! lol
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as for male afs.. maybe y can try other with it on a 50/50 loan ? hmm.gif
lol.... uif u reali can't find... i try to source for you smile.gif

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QUOTE(wp188 @ Aug 3 2009, 12:58 AM)
Hi all i m from t's member , i found tht i jus luv to scorpion n plan to buy AFS , bt from my frenz information AFS scorpionling takes time to grow....so plan to gt adult AFS , is there any place can gt?or any recommended seller?i also 1 2 ask WC AFS adult hw to make sure them dun hav sickness n mites problem?sry newbie here
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post Aug 3 2009, 09:36 AM

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wonder who you talked to there...
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post Aug 3 2009, 10:07 AM

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talking abt breeding offspring from the same brood.........
i rem there have been a recent debate on this topic somewhere ... but i can't rem where ...

some say it wasn't advisable as it might lead to deform of the off spring etc.. that is why breeder often source for other source of the same sp for breeding .....

some say they have no problem on the breeding and the offspring are okie .............

well... have not done any experiment on these as i am also still new on this topic ...would like to hear what others have to say ..........


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Added on August 3, 2009, 10:10 amlet turn around .... is it the same to breed different sp under the same family ?

lol ... will ther be future to scopions if morphs were produced ???

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post Aug 3 2009, 12:01 PM

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its a reminder to all of us rideon.

lets put that aside and on a different note.


hybrid morph? can try but don;t know the resutl lol.
maybe the male will die or the female will die.
maybe the offspring will not get to 2 instar or die during birth.
but it is unknown territory.

can;t imagine a H.A mating with a Arizona Bark scorp. the result, if there is any a scorpion with a very fast nature and lethal sting. maybe it will have better endurance and tolerance to the climate.

really don't know.

but if it can be done and selective breeding is possible in between of the same sp and families, they will be a lot of trouble. new antivenom will have to be research and produce.
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haha, even now i dun think theres any antivenom for and desert sp that u guys haf here in malaysia.. (so no need to worry of new antivenom.. even old antivenom for ordinary desert sp oso dun haf in this country..lol)

lester, only u haf the capacity to do such experiment at the moment.. how bout quietly give it a try? hehe
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post Aug 3 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Izzulogy @ Aug 3 2009, 01:09 PM)
haha, even now i dun think theres any antivenom for and desert sp that u guys haf here in malaysia.. (so no need to worry of new antivenom.. even old antivenom for ordinary desert sp oso dun haf in this country..lol)

lester, only u haf the capacity to do such experiment at the moment.. how bout quietly give it a try? hehe
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post Aug 3 2009, 12:28 PM

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i mean th experiment of breeding diff morph lar.. not experiment get sting and see whether hospital got antivenom or not.. lol biggrin.gif
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post Aug 3 2009, 12:43 PM

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hahaha. sting experiment. that is a crazy one. lol

don't know la about the morph theory.

it can happen and it can;t.


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post Aug 3 2009, 12:49 PM

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Actually rafiqos selling adult AFS bt the problem nw is WC , i having a problem nw is adult WC AFS mayb hav mites problem tis is the main problem i headache nw

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