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 MMU ConvoFest LAN Games Competition 2009

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deevon
post Jul 20 2009, 11:24 AM

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so any of u guys wanna play cs1.6 with me? @.@
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(misery @ Jul 20 2009, 10:46 AM)
Blackshot / CS 1.6 which selected?
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thank you Stormie88 (the representative from GGC) that is assisting us this time. Yes, both CS1.6 and Blackshot is coming in. However, we are facing some difficulties with CS's sponsors..so let's pray hard that they will give us their Orange Boxes and etc.


Added on July 20, 2009, 11:44 am
QUOTE(gav @ Jul 20 2009, 10:14 AM)
MMU pc's cannot play games biggrin.gif
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yeap, but it was last time. After cyberfusion, a little upgrade lo. Hopefully it is better this time. Anyway, hopefuly our computer can tahan better this time.

This post has been edited by ericseah_rkg: Jul 20 2009, 11:44 AM
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post Jul 20 2009, 01:44 PM

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Good news for FIFA09 players!!
The fees for FIFA09 is now reduced to RM20.00, thanks to our organizing committees.
Good luck smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 03:48 PM

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deevon , come play wif us . hahaha tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 04:01 PM

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Dear Guys, as mentioned we have re-org the registration FEES for FIFA09. This is due to the request and survey that we have asked from the pros (credit to Killer-x). We hope that more participation is coming in and more feedback from you guys especially in this game. We are hoping to see at least 40 people in this event. hope to hear more from you guys..thanks!
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post Jul 21 2009, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(ericseah_rkg @ Jul 19 2009, 02:02 AM)
dear choongyouqi, thank you for your quote in our frums. was looking for a head marshal for my FIFA09 actually, and wanted to contact you. I'll like to apologize in advance if any wrong-doings by the previous seniors (who is your friend) and my batch have to do with you.

I understand the registration for the Fees is quite high especially for FIFA, but I hope you can understand the cash prize money (that you definitely understand very well) is not sponsored. It is from the participants registration fees that we collect. And thinking on the participants side, at some point we do need to consider the organizers especially on the amount of participants that we need to have in order to break even. I understand during your time, participants were very little and you might be unhappy about it, and you definitely know that we do not want that to happen too right.

Apart from that, we are still in the midst of discussing the registration fees, because at the moment we are hoping that on our MMU side they will provide us more fundings so that we can lower down the prize. I'm truly grateful for your help and truly wish that any misconduct that we have done, please kindly consult us immediately through PM or email, unless you want to see the event not running on the very smooth side. Please contact me ASAP. Thank you!

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I thought subsidy from MMU should have enough for you to cover the lab fees and even more to do many other stuffs. Anyway, just sharing with you some mindset from a gamer point of view:

Scenario A: (Your current scenario)
having prizes of RM300, RM200 and RM100 with a registration fee RM30.
1, Have you ever thought of how is the loser feel if he lost in the 1st round?
2, The winner, only get 10x of what he has "invested"
3, You need to have >20 "crazy" participants in order to break-even. Imagine the pity 17players....

Scenario B: (Where I consider within the "healthly" level)
having cash prizes of RM200, RM100 and RM50 with a registration fee RM10.
1, The winner gets 20x of what he has "invested". Happier compare to Scenario A where he need to invest higher and return rate low.
2, Lower/No risk to gamer. as if they lost in 1st round also won't feel badly.
3, More participants(I can confirm this!) AND THIS IS WHAT SPONSORS NEED.(not like scenarioA where only 10 cats participate and wandering around the few PCs)




QUOTE(ericseah_rkg @ Jul 19 2009, 11:57 PM)
for the FIFA fees, we are still in the midst of our meetings as mentioned in the earlier msg to mr. choongyouqi (the ex-head marshal of gamefest esport.

I hope you guys understand that comparing the amount prizes that we are offering. it wont be good to the sponsors and also if I reduced the cash prizes. we will confirm the payment fees by this tues after tomolo meeting with the heads, also, for those who have paid, we will refund according to the latest fees. Thank you!
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I totally DO NOT understand the cash prize you are offering.
Seriously, there is no point offering high cash prizes whereby players are paying high registration fee(this is something like you organize and tell players to pay RM100, then first prize RM3,000; players pay RM1000 and you give RM30,000 prize shocking.gif totally way out of the actual e-sports objective, is something to do with genting highland gambling dy).


Added on July 21, 2009, 8:31 pmoh yeah~ Also, glad to hear that the fee has been revised.

This post has been edited by choongyouqi: Jul 21 2009, 08:34 PM
syafiq93
post Jul 21 2009, 11:01 PM

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i also agree youqi! biggrin.gif
deevon
post Jul 21 2009, 11:16 PM

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a big round of applause!

come!
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post Jul 22 2009, 01:35 AM

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there's no point of joining fifa 09 for me..maybe some other time..good luck to all smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2009, 04:31 AM

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QUOTE(choongyouqi @ Jul 21 2009, 08:27 PM)
I thought subsidy from MMU should have enough for you to cover the lab fees and even more to do many other stuffs. Anyway, just sharing with you some mindset from a gamer point of view:

Scenario A: (Your current scenario)
having prizes of RM300, RM200 and RM100 with a registration fee RM30.
1, Have you ever thought of how is the loser feel if he lost in the 1st round?
2, The winner, only get 10x of what he has "invested"
3, You need to have >20 "crazy" participants in order to break-even. Imagine the pity 17players....

Scenario B: (Where I consider within the "healthly" level)
having cash prizes of RM200, RM100 and RM50 with a registration fee RM10.
1, The winner gets 20x of what he has "invested". Happier compare to Scenario A where he need to invest higher and return rate low.
2, Lower/No risk to gamer. as if they lost in 1st round also won't feel badly.
3, More participants(I can confirm this!) AND THIS IS WHAT SPONSORS NEED.(not like scenarioA where only 10 cats participate and wandering around the few PCs)
I totally DO NOT understand the cash prize you are offering.
Seriously, there is no point offering high cash prizes whereby players are paying high registration fee(this is something like you organize and tell players to pay RM100, then first prize RM3,000; players pay RM1000 and you give RM30,000 prize  shocking.gif totally way out of the actual e-sports objective, is something to do with genting highland gambling dy).


Added on July 21, 2009, 8:31 pmoh yeah~ Also, glad to hear that the fee has been revised.
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Thank you choongyouqi with sharing this point. First of all, you are right that MMU provide subsidy, and it's an eye-opener for everyone in here to know that, yes MMU do provide that. But with that budget, if you are doing for one games, of course it won't be a big problem. But have you consider that we are handling 5 other games. You may think, don't do so many, but some of the sponsors want more games, especially those that have many other games in their gaming portal.

Apart from your logic and investment explanation, you are right that if I put myself in that position of a gamer, I won't feel nice. And you do not understand about the cash prizes that we are offering. The thing is that I hope you understand in this point is that, our cash prizes are solely from the registration fees and inclusive of the budget that we have. Sponsors only give cash prizes if our event is as big as Cyberfusion or if we collaborate their events. If we are doing our event, it is hard for sponsors to give money just like that, they will prefer to give you product prizes. You may say I know! I know! and said, just lower the cash prizes. But it is based on our survey, that competition if your first prize below RM 200 may not get that much of participation. And you YOURSELF know how rural Cyberjaya is. They will definitely consider those in the cash prizes just like you might do also, and just like how Singaporeans players that came to our campus last time. You consider on their risk and return, but you forgot about the rest of the overhead cost dude! It is OPPORTUNITY COST in economic terms.

Also, since we are considering the gamers point of view, do consider on the Organizer's point of view that if example, you put the prizes for RM200 with registration fees of RM10, and if just like Rakan Muda, you put in Puchong, people will still consider. There are a lot of cybercafes that can help them to promote this as well. But think twice on Cyberjaya. Also, during this coming event, organizers have to get ready booths, F&B and etc, wHY? This is because we know that not all players will want to go out, because game schedule are tight. And considering that, vendors are not stupid to sell to few poeple, compare to whole MMU student like in Misri Plaza everytime. We gotta prepare the food ourselves for them. And you know this is for convocation purpose, and all of the partitioning boards and etc. are not available as they have book for the main event on August 7th - 10. Do you know how much does those partitioning board cost? Apart from that, do you think those company will sponsor us for that or our SUBSIDY are able to cover the entire cost?

We are in the stage of more mature students or going into young adulthood, sometime things can be as easy to be said than done. And considering the Genting Highland gambling stuff, if you know how to value risk and return, you will know that higher risk means higher return, unless you have portfolio management under your wing, which I don't see it is deemed necessary in this points.

And last but not least, the reason why I back this post and to reasoned out to you (although it is not necessary and it is definitely very subjective as you and i truly know that we have our own point of views) is that, the sake of this whole event if to COMMEMORATE the graduating students. It is to create an awareness of our Convocation and for MMU students like you to shout out aloud on this convocation. It is for a purpose that we have this event and for you, as a MMU student to respond to this, I don't see any good and positive feedback coming our way for this coming event to celebrate our 10th Convocation. Thus, I've told you to consult me personally or you can even meet me up to talk about it (I'm willing to listen especially from you, who was a headmarshal before --> you can see that as I have revised the fees, my team are willing to listen, but subject if you come straight up to us, but not the other way around).

Anyway, for all the forumers and gamers who are reading this, I, on behalf of my team, truly will apologize for any wrong sayings and doings that I have made in this Lowyat post (especially to radio_head). The main objective of our post is to encourage participation to celebrate for MMU 10th Convocation thus once again, we apologize for the things that you guys do not want to see.

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post Jul 22 2009, 11:51 AM

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so comfirm for cs 1.6 and blackshot both game running right?


Added on July 22, 2009, 12:25 pm
QUOTE(deevon @ Jul 20 2009, 11:24 AM)
so any of u guys wanna play cs1.6 with me? @.@
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wanna lan ? time and date. - play at QUAS pj.

This post has been edited by FukaDa: Jul 22 2009, 12:25 PM
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post Jul 22 2009, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(FukaDa @ Jul 22 2009, 11:51 AM)
so comfirm for cs 1.6 and blackshot both game running right?


Added on July 22, 2009, 12:25 pm
wanna lan ? time and date. - play at QUAS pj.
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Yes. Cs1.6 and blackshot will be running.


Juzaguy,

G a r e n a Malaysia
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post Jul 22 2009, 01:02 PM

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Eric, i have just sent the information of my team and what game we are going to play to you. Did u receive it ?
And may i know when i have to pay the registration fee ?
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post Jul 22 2009, 01:18 PM

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can u list out how many slots that are still available and a list of Dota teams that have signed up. thanks.
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post Jul 22 2009, 01:31 PM

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hai Eric..

have u receive my email?
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post Jul 22 2009, 02:34 PM

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so many tournament held at 1-2 august. @@
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post Jul 22 2009, 03:22 PM

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shud changed the map version for dota

from 6.59d to 6.61b..
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post Jul 22 2009, 06:09 PM

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can list down all those team has register for cs1.6 and blackshot?
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post Jul 22 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(ricardoizecson @ Jul 22 2009, 01:18 PM)
can u list out how many slots that are still available and a list of Dota teams that have signed up. thanks.
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we can, but we are just afraid when we list down, some players donwan to play either is Pro Clan or either is their ex-team, or enemies etc.


Added on July 22, 2009, 7:48 pm
QUOTE(polarbear90 @ Jul 22 2009, 06:09 PM)
can list down all those team has register for cs1.6 and blackshot?
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as based on demand, we might put the list but the latest by next week. this is because a lot of ppl will run away when they see their unwanted opponents, a bit on the disadvantageous side on us. thank u!


Added on July 22, 2009, 7:51 pm
QUOTE(iMkSeR @ Jul 22 2009, 03:22 PM)
shud changed the map version for dota

from 6.59d to 6.61b..
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this is handled by flying spaghetti monster side, so we just follow. thanks!


Added on July 22, 2009, 7:51 pm
QUOTE(LuVz @ Jul 22 2009, 02:34 PM)
so many tournament held at 1-2 august. @@
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is it? What else ar? can kindly provide some info

This post has been edited by ericseah_rkg: Jul 22 2009, 07:51 PM
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deevon , can i have ur steam account?

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