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A&L IOI Mall, Wonderful and horrific experience
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sonyman
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Jul 2 2009, 07:33 PM
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sorry for me rushing just now, what i meant, for those customers who comes and look see but dont buy are not very good customers, or either those sales ppl you mention are not working really hard to sell,
in a boss point of view, i dont care how you do it, but i want x amount of sales each month, so now since we all talk about some of the sales ppl here, so maybe if the a&L boss look at this thread, he will know who will make more money for him.
anyway just a stupid thought, just ignore it.. hehehe
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jchong
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Jul 2 2009, 08:02 PM
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Ah, I get what you're trying to say now  All salesmen sure have sales target and I'm sure all of them would love to close a sale the 1st time a customer walks in. But for hifi I think customers want to take their time to audition and compare. Personally I don't like hard sell type of salesman. That kind of approach turns me off. So a shop that takes a softer approach will probably win in the end. Anyway, what makes you think the salesmen at A&L can't succeed with the approach they take. A&L got a few branches, the salesmen all keep their jobs, so something must be going right for them.
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sonyman
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Jul 3 2009, 12:40 AM
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what i know is , hifi world, you really need to love your speakers before you buy them.
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lexonline
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Jul 3 2009, 01:46 PM
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Getting Started

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I had pleasance experience with A&L (both Amcorp & IOI branch) especially Mr. Rick. After the 1st meeting with him. he suggested to come to my house personally (fetched by me) to give me some ideas about the placement for the speakers and sub  spent about an hour + at my house, but I didn't commit anything with him. Few weeks later I went there again to audition he recognised me and help me with the audition, and again, no commitment  He has the patience and able to provide ideas to his customers. Maybe sometimes his straight to the point attitude might offended someone but overall his is good. Not forgeting Mr. Hong, who also assisted me with the audition.
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htkaki
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Jul 3 2009, 01:48 PM
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I doubt Atven has got time to browse here. When I see him, I ll tell him about the praises that A&L received. Might be going to IOI to say 'hello' to Rick. Promised to go there but FFK due to my busy schedule  He told me that he got 'something' nice for me  B4 that, need to drop by Perfect Hi-Fi to check out SF. Hope Andy won't try to promote Revel to me This post has been edited by htkaki: Jul 3 2009, 01:49 PM
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car_o_scope
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Jul 3 2009, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 3 2009, 01:48 PM) I doubt Atven has got time to browse here. When I see him, I ll tell him about the praises that A&L received. Might be going to IOI to say 'hello' to Rick. Promised to go there but FFK due to my busy schedule  He told me that he got 'something' nice for me  B4 that, need to drop by Perfect Hi-Fi to check out SF. Hope Andy won't try to promote Revel to me  Maybe Andy's father will intro you the Revel Ultima2 series.  I wonder what nice set up is on display at A&L IOI.. Have not been there before. This post has been edited by car_o_scope: Jul 3 2009, 01:53 PM
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htkaki
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Jul 3 2009, 02:08 PM
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Only if I have half a mil RM to splurge and a huge HT room for it
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sonyman
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Jul 3 2009, 07:11 PM
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sure can what HT kaki, you sucessfull trade list is now RM611,493 so you make sommore sure you can pump out 500k to reno the new HT that you like
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utellme
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Jul 4 2009, 11:38 PM
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i served by Mr.Rick today, try out dali and psb, he is friendly and patient lah. I just wear round neck T shirt and sandal only woh.
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TSHwoarang45
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Jul 5 2009, 01:27 PM
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because i complain to Mr hong tat day, he said he'll talk to Rick, as im not he only one complains alots of customer does to according to Hong, he said , most likely his native language barrier , Hoi Nam chinese are like tat wor, so i forgive him but i still deal with Mr Hong instead,
customer visit a shop to get serve and not lecture, so whatever excuse Rick is having still doesn't justified the bad treatment he given me, wat i piss off is how he make me wait, hmmm i wonder should i make them wait for a week for my payment, tat would be rude right? hmmm .... i wonder....
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maskedchan
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Jul 6 2009, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(Hwoarang45 @ Jul 5 2009, 01:27 PM) because i complain to Mr hong tat day, he said he'll talk to Rick, as im not he only one complains alots of customer does to according to Hong, he said , most likely his native language barrier , Hoi Nam chinese are like tat wor, so i forgive him but i still deal with Mr Hong instead, customer visit a shop to get serve and not lecture, so whatever excuse Rick is having still doesn't justified the bad treatment he given me, wat i piss off is how he make me wait, hmmm i wonder should i make them wait for a week for my payment, tat would be rude right? hmmm .... i wonder.... lol..revenge is not a good thing.. at least in the end you get good treatment from mr.hong
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Ngto
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Jul 6 2009, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 30 2009, 12:27 AM) the mr. rick really very rude, PS3 cannot play lossless? and what real blu ray and fake blu ray, WTF is he talking about? LPCM not lossless? if say bitstream still acceptable lar, that guy seriously laugh my ass off.... Fake Blu-rays are those pirated DVDs masquarading as Blu-rays lah
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ar188
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Jul 6 2009, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 30 2009, 03:56 PM) Pavillion and Gardens?!  Rental would be a killing. I guess the rental is one of the limitation and hi-fi is rather 'niche' segment in Malaysia. Not many willing to spend an arm and a leg for the gears / equipements even with enough $$$ let alone those with budget limitation. last time got one B&W shop there rite at MVM? Added on July 6, 2009, 10:52 amQUOTE(sonyman @ Jul 3 2009, 07:11 PM) sure can what HT kaki, you sucessfull trade list is now RM611,493 so you make sommore sure you can pump out 500k to reno the new HT that you like yeah support HTkaki.. I think he did not log in all his sales (maybe outside LYN people or 2nd referrals from existing buyers), should be 7 figure by now.. This post has been edited by ar188: Jul 6 2009, 10:52 AM
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aquest
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Jul 9 2009, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 3 2009, 01:48 PM) I doubt Atven has got time to browse here. When I see him, I ll tell him about the praises that A&L received. Might be going to IOI to say 'hello' to Rick. Promised to go there but FFK due to my busy schedule  He told me that he got 'something' nice for me  B4 that, need to drop by Perfect Hi-Fi to check out SF. Hope Andy won't try to promote Revel to me  most likely ah liew or rather atven is busy in his foot reflexology business lor. hardly visiting hifi outlets nowadays. heard that ah hong managed to sell a pair of FA master 2.5 to a MILF hehe.. rick is a nice guy but i take his recommendation with a pinch of salt. he is too talkative n too helpful at times. interested in dali ikon but stok habis.
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gsdev
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Jul 12 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Hwoarang45 @ Jul 5 2009, 01:27 PM) wat i piss off is how he make me wait, hmmm i wonder should i make them wait for a week for my payment, tat would be rude right? hmmm .... i wonder.... He man when you going to get your set up?. Let by gones be by gones Bro, after all think about it RICK recomended you the the DALI concept 6. Auditioned today with RICK and he was like usual very helpfull to set up an audition. I have to admit the DALI's are definetly a strong contender to the other brands. They cost a tad bit more but they do have better sonics. Added on July 12, 2009, 10:59 pmAfter doing side by side comparision with the PSB B25's and DALI Concept 2. I found the DALI's had better sonics than the B25's. Of course the B25's were very good but the DALI's had that additional clarity and strength (some one said this before, kinda borrowing the same words). Switched between the B25's and Concept 2 and ended up getting the DALI's. Will have the DALI's tomorrow. This post has been edited by gsdev: Jul 12 2009, 10:59 PM
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htkaki
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Jul 13 2009, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 6 2009, 10:50 AM) last time got one B&W shop there rite at MVM? Added on July 6, 2009, 10:52 amyeah support HTkaki.. I think he did not log in all his sales (maybe outside LYN people or 2nd referrals from existing buyers), should be 7 figure by now..  Yes, Monsoon was in MVM. Then , moved to Bangsar. The biz winded up. I wonder what happened to a forummer here who has a sub under repaired. He was shocked to find the door closed.  Boss, thanks to your support too as you are also one of my MAIN customers  When will you buy JV DILA projector? gsdev, the DALI is going to replace your PSB Alpha B?
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gsdev
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Jul 13 2009, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 13 2009, 11:15 AM) gsdev, the DALI is going to replace your PSB Alpha B? Thats the plan for now  . Later upgrade my old NAD C320 Amp... After that next project slowly to get HT set up, eyeing the the RF-52's This post has been edited by gsdev: Jul 13 2009, 11:51 AM
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wkang
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Jul 13 2009, 10:34 PM
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Was at IOI yesterday and served by Rick. I would say no probs so far though other than the Hoi Nam acsent hard to understand.
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ar188
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Jul 13 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 13 2009, 11:15 AM) Yes, Monsoon was in MVM. Then , moved to Bangsar. The biz winded up. I wonder what happened to a forummer here who has a sub under repaired. He was shocked to find the door closed.  Boss, thanks to your support too as you are also one of my MAIN customers  When will you buy JV DILA projector? gsdev, the DALI is going to replace your PSB Alpha B? where got main customer? I buy cheapo deals only wor.. maybe was main in 2006 when I bought a 6+k proj from you when your LYN sales was 30k.. but now.. buy S10 from you also no effect on your 600k sales lor..
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htkaki
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Jul 13 2009, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(wkang @ Jul 13 2009, 10:34 PM) Was at IOI yesterday and served by Rick. I would say no probs so far though other than the Hoi Nam acsent hard to understand. If you are used to it, then it's ok QUOTE where got main customer? I buy cheapo deals only wor.. maybe was main in 2006 when I bought a 6+k proj from you when your LYN sales was 30k..
but now.. buy S10 from you also no effect on your 600k sales lor.. laugh.gif Boss, every single deal meant a lot to me  . Sedikit sedikit, lama lama jdai bukit Time is good or bad, same treatment and service.
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