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post Jun 28 2009, 08:29 AM

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My eyes seeing GTAIV PC version is better than any console with longer distance etc. Probably you got low-end PC to test it? However FIFA always worst on PC than console. EA just want to make quick buck with low-end PC gamers.
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post Jun 28 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 27 2009, 11:40 PM)
then why Sony still going for another motion control solution (Sony's Eye) if Six-Axis already great?  sweat.gif

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nobody was saying sixaxis was great. the list I mention was a reply that sony and some of the developers do include the motion sensors capabilities in the games. so no non used function there. you have to remember PS2 had Eye Toy. It had game bundles of its own, as well as a little support from non sony devs. That was Sony's first entrance in this motion sensor business. Why they introduce another? Simple. Product evolution. The current technology offers more possibilities. If that was not the case, we would still be gaming on green monitors playing Karateka. This is 2009. The standards are evolving.


Added on June 28, 2009, 11:39 am
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 27 2009, 02:51 PM)
Even at this years E3, microsoft did well and really kick sony's butt with the natal in terms of presentation and excitement it created to the gaming industries.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 25 2009, 01:42 AM)
One thing that excites me is the PS3 motion sensing control shown at E3.  I think its got lots of potential as compare to the Natal.  I just can't see any real games that can really make use of the natal.  Even the demo of natal is not convincing and some more the action on screen lag behind the actual actors movement. 

PS3 's motion control is so accurate and the demo really show how it can be implemented in FPS and adventure games....sports too. 

Hope sony can fully capitalise on this one and then i will have a HD wii without having to buy a wii.
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post Jun 28 2009, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(x_barrage @ Jun 28 2009, 08:29 AM)
My eyes seeing GTAIV PC version is better than any console with longer distance etc. Probably you got low-end PC to test it? However FIFA always worst on PC than console. EA just want to make quick buck with low-end PC gamers.
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hmmm the problem with the GTA4 PC version was bugs, crashes and really poor optimization...
on a really high end pc it would look better i would agree...
but that is on a relatively stable version n pray for no memory leaks etc...
in other words, a BAD port...
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post Jun 28 2009, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 27 2009, 11:53 PM)
always strive to improve?
if ur car is already so good, would u wanna improve it more?
definately rite?
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Of course tongue.gif

But car ain't controller thou.
QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jun 27 2009, 11:59 PM)
I think PS3 games are REALLY better than PC games. Look how much PC title need to undergo patches today even Red Alert 3/ GTA4 new patch also still in development now. But the ugliest is GTA4 and St. Row, i envy PS3 owner who play these games without stuttering and the visual also nicer than PC.
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So you do not envy all other good games on PC that looks better than PS3 is not on your list?

r u nuts?

QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 28 2009, 11:27 AM)
nobody was saying sixaxis was great. the list I mention was a reply that sony and some of the developers do include the motion sensors capabilities in the games. so no non used function there. you have to remember PS2 had Eye Toy. It had game bundles of its own, as well as a little support from non sony devs. That was Sony's first entrance in this motion sensor business. Why they introduce another? Simple. Product evolution. The current technology offers more possibilities. If that was not the case, we would still be gaming on green monitors playing Karateka. This is 2009. The standards are evolving.
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Then why they didn't use/bundle it from the start? (of PS3 era)


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post Jun 28 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 28 2009, 03:27 PM)
Of course tongue.gif

But car ain't controller thou.

So you do not envy all other good games on PC that looks better than PS3 is not on your list?

r u nuts?
Then why they didn't use/bundle it from the start? (of PS3 era)
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other than crysis and some mmorpg as well as RTS, most of the games on the pc are on the console...
i got both a pc and a console, so why envy?

why they never bundle?
ppl are QQ-ing over ps3 prices so bundle and add more $$$ to the console? lol

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post Jun 28 2009, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 28 2009, 03:38 PM)
other than crysis and some mmorpg as well as RTS, most of the games on the pc are on the console...
i got both a pc and a console, so why envy?
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not u lah, the other forumer sweat.gif

QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 28 2009, 03:38 PM)
why they never bundle?
ppl are QQ-ing over ps3 prices so bundle and add more $$$ to the console? lol
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laugh.gif ... which that means PS3 Sony's Eye gonna cost da'bomb when it releases..
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post Jun 29 2009, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 28 2009, 03:27 PM)
Then why they didn't use/bundle it from the start? (of PS3 era)
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That wouldnt be a good business strategy. PS3 was rolled out without any games that support PS3 Eye. Even though there are now games that support it, the number of these games still will not justify the bundle itself. Why bundle up a peripheral that do not support any games right? Sure, they can just make a quick buck out of it but in the long run, it will damage its own rep. That, and the costing issues. Everybody know how public reacted when PS3's initial price was announced. As a company, they also want to make money. And PS3 supports any out of the box USB camera if you are wondering about the video chat function.


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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 28 2009, 07:44 PM)
not u lah, the other forumer sweat.gif
laugh.gif ... which that means PS3 Sony's Eye gonna cost da'bomb when it releases..
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PS3 Eye is already released long time ago la fren..

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post Jun 29 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 27 2009, 11:40 PM)
then why Sony still going for another motion control solution (Sony's Eye) if Six-Axis already great?  sweat.gif

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yes..just settle with ps1 controller is enuff shakehead.gif

even wii is intoducing its motion plus. if u stay static...how to compete?
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post Jun 29 2009, 12:25 PM

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My PS3 eye is totally under utilize now. I am not sure if it is still working. smile.gif


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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jun 29 2009, 12:23 PM)
yes..just settle with ps1 controller is enuff shakehead.gif

even wii is intoducing its motion plus. if u stay static...how to compete?
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The motion plus of wii introduce 1:1 motion control but slightly less accurate then the PS3 one(from what i read). But no matter how good is the motion plus, I just cannot see myself buying a wii because the graphics hurt my eyes.

I would love to see sony's version hit the market with games like Fight Night, What is the cute looking golf game from sony?, and tennis game.

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post Jun 29 2009, 01:27 PM

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accurate or not, if the game is smart enough to utilize it then it's game on for me. At the end of the day, it depends on how smart are the developer in implementing it in their game and doesn't end up being too gimicky.
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oh Eye owners should try Eye Of Judgement

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post Jun 29 2009, 11:02 PM

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For those who thinks PS2 doesn't have competitor I want to clear things up that PS2 DOES have competitors which is xbox1 and Game Cube. BTW I think that xbox is like PC clone (no offense to xbox fanboy) tongue.gif
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post Jun 30 2009, 01:57 AM

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Yes. That’s why if we find PC Window fanboy keep bashing Xbox 360 is stupid. They both from M$ & got revenue from its. I’m also used to term M$ exclusive rather than Xbox 360 exclusive even PS3 fanboy keep telling no reason to own Xbox 360 since they got PC, M$ don’t care because they got money from both of them & always surpassing SONY & Nintendo when it come to 3rd party titles.
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post Jun 30 2009, 06:49 AM

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PC users which got PS3 one till now still dun have chance to play the latest Dead or Alive and beach version too, now they still have to waiting for Gear of War2 to release on pc, Halo3 still no sound for PC yet, there still a lot of title not yet release on pc..... so please shut up the stupid mouth which control by stupid brain for who said that own a pc=Xbox360.


Added on June 30, 2009, 7:15 am
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 30 2009, 06:49 AM)
PC users which got PS3 one till now still dun have chance to play the latest Dead or Alive and beach version too, now they still have to waiting for Gear of War2 to release on pc, Halo3 still no news for PC yet, there still a lot of title not yet release on pc..... so please shut up the stupid mouth which control by stupid brain for who said that own a pc=Xbox360.
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post Jun 30 2009, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(shin gouki @ Jun 29 2009, 11:02 PM)
For those who thinks PS2 doesn't have competitor I want to clear things up that PS2 DOES have competitors which is xbox1 and Game Cube. BTW I think that xbox is like PC clone (no offense to xbox fanboy) tongue.gif
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Yea and they got destroyed before we GC even made it's illegal ways here in Malaysia.
By the time we knew it, 360 was already on the horizon.
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post Jun 30 2009, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 30 2009, 06:49 AM)
PC users which got PS3 one till now still dun have chance to play the latest Dead or Alive and beach version too, now they still have to waiting for Gear of War2 to release on pc, Halo3 still no sound for PC yet, there still a lot of title not yet release on pc..... so please shut up the stupid mouth which control by stupid brain for who said that own a pc=Xbox360.


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hehe...yeah, come on, dont compare XBOX360 = PC.

the design/architecture of the console might be similiar to PC, but the goodies/treatments/experiences r totally different ! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 30 2009, 08:56 AM)
Yea and they got destroyed before we GC even made it's illegal ways here in Malaysia.
By the time we knew it, 360 was already on the horizon.
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yeah, we r talking about here, in Malaysia. laugh.gif
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post Jul 1 2009, 03:32 PM

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The comparison was made because the XBOX 1 used PC parts - intel cpu, nvidia graphics and windows 2000.

By doing that, the perception was forever nailed that XBOX = PC, even though X360 went to non-PC components.
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No one knows that the X stands for in the Xbox name?
It stands for DirectX, proprietary API programming design by Windows.

Really though, it's MS own fault in leading people to think that 360 = PC. They're doing stupid things like Games for Windows Live, and we all know how bad it did. Then now they're taking Silverlight to the 360. None of this BS calling 360 = PC was ever said when it launched 3 years ago.
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Can anyone find out which third party's game to be the first game release it from console to PC???
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:10 PM

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There is an interesting article over at n4g.com about whether sony should quit the hardware and just focus on games. Its a very interesting article with lots of good points.

Sony has loss much of its charm in many things. Their Walkman was a household name in the 80s and now, its all ipod. Playstation was a household name the past 10 years but now its struggling so much. The playstation use be sony's cash cow but now its sony biggest losing division. Its a matter of time when the boards might just slash the playstation division....possible but not unlikely?

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