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post Aug 11 2011, 05:37 PM

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learn to fly BF2 heli, then u can fly BC2 heli with ur eyes closed tongue.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 05:38 PM

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just down be like THAT LOL
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post Aug 11 2011, 07:16 PM

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ROFL biggrin.gif epic pilot is epic!! LOL
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post Aug 11 2011, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Aug 11 2011, 05:16 PM)
speaking of flying heli's, i just learn how to fly helis! YAY! but not really good at it yet, not good at avoiding at-4s
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so you want to be an attack helicopter pilot?

first of all you must know the most important thing to control the helicopter
the throttle does not need to be held down at max power

1. collective (up-down)
the helicopter controls in bad company 2 are good for those without an adjustable throttle like on a flight joystick
it may be even better than manual control of throttle because of it

that means let go of W or the trigger or whatever your &quot;go up&quot; button is
you do not need it to stay in the air and keeping on it will only reduce your maneuverability
you only need to hold W to go up or to go very straight very fast

once in the air the throttle will level to about 50 percent if you let go of W instead of going down to 0
the neutral speed is ideal for going and staying stationary also for quick cyclic maneuvering and most of all for having greater control

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2. cyclic (lateral movement)
helicopters are not flying tanks
they are very frail and they are meant to be long range attackers
the distance gives the helicopter time to avoid incoming attacks and perform simple evasive maneuvers

when at 50 percent and stationary a simple pull to the left or right or really any direction is very swift
more than fast enough to dodge an incoming rocket or dart or shell if the pilot spots it quick and is far away as he should be

unlike a car or boat or plane where the kinetic energy is from &quot;pushing&quot;
the helicopter rotors above are a pulling force that need to deal with balance and pulling a big hunk of metal below it
it needs gentle touches to go in the right direction and then it will do the rest itself
you should never need to come close to holding down the stick for more than a split second

the cyclic and the torque can be combined to perform much faster turning in bc2

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3. Torque (turning)
a helicopter can not turn very fast if at all while moving laterally
the helicopter can turn very fast and have much more control over the turning at a slow or stationary speed

the helicopter can perform sharp and fast turns while on the move
but the sharp turn needs to be a pirouette in the air
use the cyclic to counter the kinetic energy going one way and then the torque to turn

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4. combat
again helicopters are not flying tanks and they are not flyby bombers
they are meant to attack from a distance and use terrain for cover
they are the snipers of the vehicle types

an area barrage from a safe range is better than trading blows up close

a slight tilt to circle a zone horizontally will let the gunner keep his aim on the enemy and maximize evasion

if you are using alt-v for the guided missile
it may be better to coordinate with a soldier on the ground with a tracer dart
than to have a gunner using the alt-v dart
let the gunner have a stable platform and use v-reload or v-warhead to do more damage

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5. recap

the only reason to keep holding W is to go up or fast forward

level out the helicopter and let go of W and the helicopter will mostly stabalize on its own

subtle tilts from a stationary position are enough to perform quick maneuvers

just nudge it in the right direction and the helicopter will do the rest after a moment

let go of W for greater control

tilt into a turn to bank sharply and turn fast

do not keep holding W

distance is defense

did i mention not to hold W?

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the same principles can be used for the transport

but it does not have good sideways cyclic mobility

which is a good thing since its guns are on the side

for that helicopter it is best to let one door gunner have a good shot when you circle an objective than let neither gunner have a good shot by flying over it

the best approach for a halo drop is to come in from the side and let the squad drop in at the outskirts of the area so they are not surrounded by the enemy
at the same time the one door gunner will have a good view of the objective as you approach

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post Aug 11 2011, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Aug 11 2011, 07:17 PM)
True , but not always true.
You have to be close to the objective (In rush) to support the team.
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 11 2011, 05:37 PM)
learn to fly BF2 heli, then u can fly BC2 heli with ur eyes closed tongue.gif
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THIS! thumbup.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Sai91 @ Aug 11 2011, 08:04 PM)
THIS! thumbup.gif
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i never played bf2 unsure.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Aug 11 2011, 08:06 PM)
i never played bf2  unsure.gif
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Better start playing NOW....
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post Aug 11 2011, 08:39 PM

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cant wait!!!!!!!!! can wait.. till got my hands on my new computer.. lol
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post Aug 11 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(boblp @ Aug 11 2011, 08:39 PM)
cant wait!!!!!!!!! can wait.. till got my hands on my new computer.. lol
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what specs?
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 11 2011, 05:29 PM)
Just take the chance to find a full/empty conquest map with choppers , and train your chopper flying skills...
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So much skill needed in order to fly this damn thing... ><
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(DarkknightDK @ Aug 11 2011, 11:04 PM)
So much skill needed in order to fly this damn thing... ><
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Well , you better expect things the same for BF3 , same goes for ranking , they say gonna take a while than BC2 , which means ...
All year round playing BF3 until Lvl 50 (expected)
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:09 PM

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So bf3 use bc2 heli control or bf2 heli control ?
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(min654 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:09 PM)
So bf3 use bc2 heli control or bf2 heli control ?
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We DK yet....
Just wait till more info at Gamescom...

But should be BF2 controls hmm.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 11 2011, 11:09 PM)
Well , you better expect things the same for BF3 , same goes for ranking , they say gonna take a while than BC2 , which means ...
All year round playing BF3 until Lvl 50 (expected)
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Gonna train kao kao at Flying academy lol..
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(DarkknightDK @ Aug 11 2011, 11:22 PM)
Gonna train kao kao at Flying academy lol..
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this going to remind me the days of the ghost of razgrizs

might even consider playing that game again after reading all this ><
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post Aug 12 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Aug 11 2011, 05:38 PM)


just down be like THAT LOL
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my acrophobia just gotten worse after watching this
imma stick to the land all the time from now on
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post Aug 12 2011, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(gbwedward @ Aug 12 2011, 12:33 AM)
my acrophobia just gotten worse after watching this
imma stick to the land all the time from now on
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Care to join you if I phailed hopelessly during flight traning.. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 02:14 AM

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Wow. @.@

/me starts to practice flying

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post Aug 12 2011, 04:57 AM

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Haha , I think it's time i went back to BF2 for a quick jet go through.

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