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post Jun 11 2009, 11:18 AM, updated 17y ago

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I was looking at the progress pics here, and noticed that while people eventually develop their upper bodies very satisfactorily, they still have these slender waists. Is it not a normal part of bodybuiding to be thick and muscular around the waist as well? I get the impression you train your obliques for this via, say, Saxon Side bends. Anybody with before after pics of their obliques, or thoughts on the matter?
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post Jun 11 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jun 11 2009, 11:18 AM)
I was looking at the progress pics here, and noticed that while people eventually develop their upper bodies very satisfactorily, they still have these slender waists. Is it not a normal part of bodybuiding to be thick and muscular around the waist as well? I get the impression you train your obliques for this via, say, Saxon Side bends. Anybody with before after pics of their obliques, or thoughts on the matter?
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They usually stick with lighter high rep stuff for that. They don't want to develop thick waists. However, depending on what you want, some people don't mind, like powerlifters. They just train it too and let it grow.
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post Jun 11 2009, 12:57 PM

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Well, to me, one of the purposes of bodybuilding is to be aesthetically pleasing, obviously. So keeping the waist slim is just part of it. Having a bulging gut, be it muscle or not, doesn't look very nice if you ask me.

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post Jun 11 2009, 02:16 PM

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I'm thinking of experimenting with 2 sets of 10-12 reps barbell saxon side bends after my major lifts.
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post Jun 11 2009, 02:25 PM

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I don't see why you shouldn't. Even I do weighted ab work all the time. Probably, just don't overdo it.
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post Jun 11 2009, 02:45 PM

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It's just that I don't see people doing it in the journals or in the progress pics.

(I already do weighted situps to support my overhead press.)
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post Jun 11 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jun 11 2009, 03:45 PM)
It's just that I don't see people doing it in the journals or in the progress pics.

(I already do weighted situps to support my overhead press.)
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When I say weighted ab work, it isn't the crunch machine. I do it on the cable machine. Better recuritment. Doesn't bust your back.
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post Jun 12 2009, 10:15 AM

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Just my personal opinion and some knowledge i have gain from some pro. Like chad waterbury and bob chic ever mention about having a decent slim waist u must avoid crunches or any abs exercise that can achieve hypertrophy, and u gona have a bloated look (i experience it myself, my stomach is more protruding than my chest). So wat u need to do is some exercise to maintain ur abs, like plank, side plank and etc.
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post Jun 13 2009, 05:06 PM

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I just discovered this exercise to fix the distended belly problem:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ms-fit5.htm

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post Jun 13 2009, 07:11 PM

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I've always liked the look of such abs actually. Not cool meh?

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I think they look damn solid and speaks of strength.
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post Jun 13 2009, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Jun 12 2009, 10:15 AM)
Just my personal opinion and some knowledge i have gain from some pro. Like chad waterbury and bob chic ever mention about having a decent slim waist u must avoid crunches or any abs exercise that can achieve hypertrophy, and u gona have a bloated look (i experience it myself, my stomach is more protruding than my chest). So wat u need to do is some exercise to maintain ur abs, like plank, side plank and etc.
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They meant don't use too much weight on abs exercises. Light weight, very high reps. But anyway, just curious bro, where did you see those articles. I'm kinda curious too.

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post Jun 13 2009, 09:04 PM

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avoid abs exercise in order to not to have protruding guts??? i've read articles tht stomach vacuuming solves tht issue!!! after a month of heavy ab training i've also experience tht but after performing stomach vacumming, my waistline became smaller...
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 11 2009, 03:20 PM)
When I say weighted ab work, it isn't the crunch machine. I do it on the cable machine. Better recuritment. Doesn't bust your back.
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Hey man, how do you perform ab exercises using a cable machine?
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post Jun 14 2009, 03:17 PM

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I'd be willing to trade 10 points of IQ for abs like that.
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post Jun 14 2009, 06:37 PM

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It can be done. Just need a lot of time & money. I hope to get it by the age of 30 flex.gif

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post Jun 14 2009, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(~LynX~ @ Jun 14 2009, 06:04 AM)
Hey man, how do you perform ab exercises using a cable machine?
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Cable Crunches. smile.gif

QUOTE(kotmj @ Jun 14 2009, 04:17 PM)
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I'd be willing to trade 10 points of IQ for abs like that.
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10 points of IQ, that is alot for a set of abdominals that would wash off anytime. You better be a little wiser on what you wish for boy.

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post Jun 14 2009, 07:09 PM

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that dude was skinny... dont u think???
but damn...the abs..
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post Jun 14 2009, 08:05 PM

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That's just a case of having very low bodyfat and some decent genetics for the abs, ie symmetry.
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post Jun 14 2009, 08:58 PM

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Achievable leh. I'm 75% there lol. But not my main concern now. Needs lean muscle mass!
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post Jun 16 2009, 11:37 PM

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So this is the gymnast Yang Wei at the 2003 World Championships. Great obliques. I find his torso perfectly proportioned. Attached Image Attached Image

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