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McRyan
post Feb 5 2010, 12:00 PM

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just wanna assure tat my car can fit in 195/60 , i dun wan low profile lol
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cannot that is over... but 195/55 R15 give you comfort also with C Drive, Primacy LC, DRB... is a bad concept to assume that 55 series is really low profile and it did not have comfort... 55 series is in the middle 50 is low profile and further on until 35 series...
Primacy LC and C Drive will not get u wrong... comfort is the tire design for...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 2 2010, 03:23 PM)
Michelin... skip Continental CC1 it has some problem... my gf is using XM1 on her family Iswara Aeroback also... smile.gif
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agree on ther bolded part. used to ride on conti cc1 tires when i was still a complete noob on tires.
3 out of 4 cc1 develop a dangerous 'bulging spot' when the tread is still around 60%.
but the traction is way better than nct5 in lower % thread.

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+1.... agree on that... NCT5 really sucks big time...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 5 2010, 01:55 PM)
+1.... agree on that... NCT5 really sucks big time...
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NCT5 is noisy too let alone the price could b d same as imported comfort tires. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 5 2010, 01:55 PM)
+1.... agree on that... NCT5 really sucks big time...
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heard tat NCT5 is the repalcement for Gt3, isnt it ?


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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 5 2010, 12:21 PM)
cannot that is over... but 195/55 R15 give you comfort also with C Drive, Primacy LC, DRB... is a bad concept to assume that 55 series is really low profile and it did not have comfort... 55 series is in the middle 50 is low profile and further on until 35 series...
Primacy LC and C Drive will not get u wrong... comfort is the tire design for...
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Primacy LC and C Drive , which one more long last ?

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post Feb 5 2010, 03:22 PM

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never trust GY middle and entry range of tire...
hmmm... if Michelin Primacy LC advert is right this tire should last... but still base on ur driving style...
my gf's Iswara at hometown Michelin and Yokohama Tires last her more than 2 yrs already... i already told her when she get back make sure check all the tire for side wall minor crack... if have change it...
last time my tire similar with her size cannot even last me for 1yr & 3 mths... so it depends what is ur average KM/year... if like 40k or more should be less than 1.5 yrs...
as i told you tire OTR life is only about 3 yrs... more than that is dangerous as it's material changed properties already, it can burst any time... comfort tire life should be around 50k only... GY Duraplus 100k km advert is bullshit, cos u need to check the sidewall... tire test is done on a control environment and similar road so it can be some but in reality duno the wear rate can last that long or not...
remember there is always pro and cons... Good traction tire will not last that long and tire that last longer is not that good in traction... so do you wanna save ur pocket or ur life... ur choice... cheers...

for 195/55 R15 u have 4 comfort which ppl recommended Cheapest 1st.. Falken 912, Yokohama C Drive, Michelin Primacy LC, Toyo DRB... toyo is quite expensive try others 3...
i heard tire price already increase, so 912 should cost you around RM190, C Drive around RM220 and Primacy LC around there too...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 5 2010, 03:22 PM)
never trust GY middle and entry range of tire...
hmmm... if Michelin Primacy LC advert is right this tire should last... but still base on ur driving style...
my gf's Iswara at hometown Michelin and Yokohama Tires last her more than 2 yrs already... i already told her when she get back make sure check all the tire for side wall minor crack... if have change it...
last time my tire similar with her size cannot even last me for 1yr & 3 mths... so it depends what is ur average KM/year... if like 40k or more should be less than 1.5 yrs...
as i told you tire OTR life is only about 3 yrs... more than that is dangerous as it's material changed properties already, it can burst any time... comfort tire life should be around 50k only... GY Duraplus 100k km advert is bullshit, cos u need to check the sidewall... tire test is done on a control environment and similar road so it can be some but in reality duno the wear rate can last that long or not...
remember there is always pro and cons... Good traction tire will not last that long and tire that last longer is not that good in traction... so do you wanna save ur pocket or ur life... ur choice... cheers...

for 195/55 R15 u have 4 comfort which ppl recommended Cheapest 1st.. Falken 912, Yokohama C Drive, Michelin Primacy LC, Toyo DRB... toyo is quite expensive try others 3...
i heard tire price already increase, so 912 should cost you around RM190, C Drive around RM220 and Primacy LC around there too...
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wow, wat a long reading lol
is 185 does a mch diff wf 195 in stability?

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post Feb 5 2010, 04:40 PM

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well is the tire range that differs the traction, handling and comfort...
of course 185/60 R14 tires is very much in comfort but it's traction and also handling lose quite a lot to the performance categories in the 15"... from 195/50 R15 or 195/55 R15 u have plenty of UHP (Ultra High Performance) tire to choose from where 14" tire did not have... and also it's comfort is more towards middle range tire (for camry, accord, altis, civic...) which give better traction and handling too...
your choice to choose... my old toy on 14" rubber too but i'm planing to change to 15" for better tires range... but i have not decided any thing out yet as my 14" rubber still have at least 60% more to wear...

it might be long but after u read it u will understand more lo...
BTW if you jump into 15" middle range tire or UHP tire u have totally different experience, it gives you more confidence brows.gif

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post Feb 6 2010, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 5 2010, 04:40 PM)
well is the tire range that differs the traction, handling and comfort...
of course 185/60 R14 tires is very much in comfort but it's traction and also handling lose quite a lot to the performance categories in the 15"... from 195/50 R15 or 195/55 R15 u have plenty of UHP (Ultra High Performance) tire to choose from where 14" tire did not have... and also it's comfort is more towards middle range tire (for camry, accord, altis, civic...) which give better traction and handling too...
your choice to choose... my old toy on 14" rubber too but i'm planing to change to 15" for better tires range... but i have not decided any thing out yet as my 14" rubber still have at least 60% more to wear...

it might be long but after u read it u will understand more lo...
BTW if you jump into 15" middle range tire or UHP tire u have totally different experience, it gives you more confidence brows.gif
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huh? confident in ?
act 60 n 55 is not a big diff rite? i mean comparison of the comfort

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post Feb 6 2010, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 5 2010, 03:22 PM)
never trust GY middle and entry range of tire...
hmmm... if Michelin Primacy LC advert is right this tire should last... but still base on ur driving style...
my gf's Iswara at hometown Michelin and Yokohama Tires last her more than 2 yrs already... i already told her when she get back make sure check all the tire for side wall minor crack... if have change it...
last time my tire similar with her size cannot even last me for 1yr & 3 mths... so it depends what is ur average KM/year... if like 40k or more should be less than 1.5 yrs...
as i told you tire OTR life is only about 3 yrs... more than that is dangerous as it's material changed properties already, it can burst any time... comfort tire life should be around 50k only... GY Duraplus 100k km advert is bullshit, cos u need to check the sidewall... tire test is done on a control environment and similar road so it can be some but in reality duno the wear rate can last that long or not...
remember there is always pro and cons... Good traction tire will not last that long and tire that last longer is not that good in traction... so do you wanna save ur pocket or ur life... ur choice... cheers...

for 195/55 R15 u have 4 comfort which ppl recommended Cheapest 1st.. Falken 912, Yokohama C Drive, Michelin Primacy LC, Toyo DRB... toyo is quite expensive try others 3...
i heard tire price already increase, so 912 should cost you around RM190, C Drive around RM220 and Primacy LC around there too...
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c drive for 195/55/15 is 220?
i was quote for 165 for 195/55/15....
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post Feb 6 2010, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(mikeair @ Feb 6 2010, 03:47 AM)
c drive for 195/55/15 is 220?
i was quote for 165 for 195/55/15....
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heard tat yokohama got a lot of fake one, beware
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QUOTE(McRyan @ Feb 6 2010, 08:31 AM)
heard tat yokohama got a lot of fake one, beware
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how does the fake look like which model are fake?
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i think it is parallel imported lo... must becareful a lil on that coz some tire compound it is not suitable to use in a tropical country like our country...

that is very cheap... look at the Manufactured date if it is more than 1 yrs from now then i know what happen... smile.gif
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hey guys im a newbie about car n i was wondering sifu sifu around here can help me some tips n advice.i just bought an honda civic eg as my 1st car n i really dunno wat kind of tyre or size should i buy for my car.rite now im looking for used tyre n rim coz my budget is really tight(coz im a student lol) n was hoping if sifu sifu around here can tell me tyre shops dat sell very good used tyre n rims at reasonable price.one my fren fren told me dat there is some good tyre shop in taman sri muda.recomendation guys?
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 6 2010, 12:21 PM)
i think it is parallel imported lo... must becareful a lil on that coz some tire compound it is not suitable to use in a tropical country like our country...

that is very cheap... look at the Manufactured date if it is more than 1 yrs from now then i know what happen...  smile.gif
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act 185 n 195 r not mch diff rite ? i mean the stabilty they give
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QUOTE(rebel_azri @ Feb 6 2010, 12:26 PM)
hey guys im a newbie about car n i was wondering sifu sifu around here can help me some tips n advice.i just bought an honda civic eg as my 1st car n i  really dunno wat kind of tyre or size should i buy for my car.rite now im looking for used tyre n rim coz my budget is really tight(coz im a student lol) n was hoping if sifu sifu around here can tell me tyre shops dat sell very good used tyre n rims at reasonable price.one my fren fren told me dat there is some good tyre shop in taman sri muda.recomendation guys?
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Congratulations on your purchase....the most suitable rim size to run on your EG would be 14/15 inch depending on your engine size...if 1.5, then 14 inch would be sufficient....size wise, 195/50/15 would be the best since a lot of tires come in this size and the price is also reasonable....lower end tires start from rm150 and up to RM250 for good performance tires...depending on what brand/budget/requirements, there are a lot of options for you to play with....

Never tried taman sri muda....u can always go to klang at jalan meru lama for cheap 2nd hand japan rims, lotsa choices also
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QUOTE(McRyan @ Feb 6 2010, 12:08 AM)
huh? confident in ?
act 60 n 55 is not a big diff rite? i mean comparison of the comfort
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QUOTE(McRyan @ Feb 6 2010, 07:36 PM)
act 185 n 195 r not mch diff rite ? i mean the stabilty they give
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the comfort is depended on the tires compound and it's side wall hardness also...
u can't even compare to a sports tire's comfort with a luxury comfort tires like C Drive and Primacy LC or Toyo C1S...
for the size i recommend u, eg. 195/55 R15 we have GY F1 GSD-3, BS Adrenalin RE001, Michelin PP2, Yokohama S Drive, Yokohama AD08, Toyo T1R, Toyo DRB, Hankook V12(all performance tire) or Falken 912, Michelin Primacy LC, Yokohama C Drive, BS ER30 (all comfort tires)...
all the tires i mention is at the same size but different comfortableness... the 1st few tires is more towards handling and performance but between them u still have different comfort and characteristic... example we take Yokohama S Drive, Michelin PP2, BS RE001 and Toyo T1R for comparison... they are around the same price but in between then u have different comfort also... PP2 known if it's side wall hardness so do RE001 and S Drive, but T1R, DRB n V12 is a bit softer so better comfort... but in terms of tire performance u still have some pro and cons... according to Opel testing it's Corsa with 214/45 R17 tires... PP2 is the best Wet Longitude and Hydroplaning, while V12 is best in Braking in Dry and Wet & comfort, but directional tires will roar after 50% used...

even comfort tires also similar, Michelin Primacy LC is know to be very quiet and comfort, but to some ppl it is too soft of spirited highway drives...C Drive is better in handling and also 912 & ER30 vs Primacy LC... so all the tires have pros and cons... it depends what u want... and ur budget...

if you want comfort with good handling and dont mind is directional tires is Toyo T1R, Toyo DRB and Hankook V12...
if you want comfort with quiet and don mind the handling in corners & high speed maneuver then 912, Primacy LC, C Drive and ER 30...
ur choice now...



QUOTE(rebel_azri @ Feb 6 2010, 12:26 PM)
hey guys im a newbie about car n i was wondering sifu sifu around here can help me some tips n advice.i just bought an honda civic eg as my 1st car n i  really dunno wat kind of tyre or size should i buy for my car.rite now im looking for used tyre n rim coz my budget is really tight(coz im a student lol) n was hoping if sifu sifu around here can tell me tyre shops dat sell very good used tyre n rims at reasonable price.one my fren fren told me dat there is some good tyre shop in taman sri muda.recomendation guys?
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fren set ur budget... how much/tire and how much on the rims... rims i think u can find but tires what is ur budget??? RM180???? RM250??? totally different performance category...

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i m still in dilemma bout using which rim
i m currently on stock 175 n i plan to change to 185 in the future

2nd choice - sell off my 14" rim n use the 15" rim ( 185/60R15 ) n change to 195/55R15 after some times
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well ur decision... but i can tell u 55 series does not means u will lose much comfort... change the RE030 tires can try... coz BS tires might be a lil stiff... so u can try out Primacy LC or Falken 912 for more comfort on 195/55 R15...

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