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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V18, Hmmm...The heat of AMD..is on the way..

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post Jul 9 2009, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Agultiamat @ Jul 9 2009, 02:09 PM)
any idea... that i can low my core volt? without underclock mu proc speed
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why not but u get unstable oc in return... tongue.gif

or, get a chip of better steppin which can do higher clock w lower volt. give & take u must... nod.gif

@ sarahlah,

it's nowhere to be seen bro... sweat.gif

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post Jul 9 2009, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 9 2009, 02:32 PM)
Come on. Get my "multi"rail Corsair. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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price bro? d psu can't cope w i7 meh? sweat.gif
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post Jul 9 2009, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 9 2009, 02:41 PM)
Seriously you want bro?
Found out problem. Hope so I m not wrong.
Sata cable too tight make so many issues these few days. doh.gif doh.gif

-pWs-
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in gaugin stage now bro, need to know how much it gonna cost. my igreen power 600w is ok for current rig but since i've moved to bigger case mite as well make it tidier by usin solid modular psu. smile.gif

sata cable too tight? mind to explain that bro... sweat.gif
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post Jul 9 2009, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 02:51 PM)
SATA too tight? Too much kacip fatimah i presume laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
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otak blue... tongue.gif

QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 9 2009, 02:52 PM)
HX750 or HX850 bro.. thumbup.gif
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i'd like to have one of those too but my wallet says no no. still got d tj-09 loan to pay some more... sweat.gif
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post Jul 9 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 02:56 PM)
LOL cannot stand it ler, working with too many old timers in my office, their lawak blue also suda melekat laugh.gif
Bro u punyer TJ-09 ikat berapa tahun 0% interest loan?? tongue.gif
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6 months 0% interest... gud eh bro? brows.gif

QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 9 2009, 04:14 PM)
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waa..tempted to go DDR3.. doh.gif
but not enuf money to buy AM3 proc la plak.. doh.gif
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easy, trade ya chip w unlockable x3 720/x2 550, problem solved... nod.gif
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 9 2009, 04:26 PM)
my fren special offer for me  brows.gif

giga or msi???  sweat.gif
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vs

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gaygay easier on eyes, at least mine. i'll pick d board w award bios between 2 great boards. smile.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 04:26 PM)
6 months 0% interest, yummy  drool.gif

Agree with ah_khoo, get unlockable X2 550BE then ur done.. Tuh offer to kuntawakaw mana tau dia mau tongue.gif


Added on July 9, 2009, 4:31 pm

Both mobo are gud bro.. Look at their feature if u wanna compare..
Plus if u planned to unlock u need to consider which one is confirm can unlock mobo hmm.gif
I think Gigitbyte can..  hmm.gif
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or trade w my loaned chip x4 810... tongue.gif

both confirmed can unlock core(s) bro. nod.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 04:41 PM)
Gigitbyte does have softer look, i kinda like the MSI darker look tho but still bios wise i'm gonna agree with ah_khoo on this one tongue.gif

Waaaah suda offer 810 dia nampak.. laugh.gif
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oc: both are in d same league. nod.gif > draw

coolin: gd 70 mite be slightly better due to large chunk of metal, gaygay more on look but i think not so efficient if compared between d 2. biggrin.gif > msi 1 gaygay 0

layout for cf: gaygay win coz more space for cf cards to breath. one mite claim can use port 1 & 3 / 2 & 4 on gd 70 but is there such bridge that's long enuf to connect 'em? gd70 offers something extra which some mite not need - d 4 ports pci-e x16. yawn.gif > msi 1 gaygay 1

bios: need me to say more... tongue.gif > msi 1 gaygay 2

convenience: with all those bling2 switches one can't go wrong if convenience matter d most. laugh.gif > msi 2 gaygay2

look: beauty is in d eyes of beholder > draw

final whistle: draw wink.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 05:04 PM)
Good conclusion ah_khoo..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
but gaygaybite got a better sound system i think, its using AL889 (almost like soundstorm quality) if i'm not mistaken, or are they both using the same hmm.gif
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meh... just my noob opinions only lah bro... if one can afford 790fx board, i have no doubt that that person already had a decent if not top notch sound card in use. imagine playin games w/ sheering fast processor + ram + multi gpu but on realtek apu??? shocking.gif tongue.gif

if play fps games sure always kena shot by enemy due to bad sound positionin... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jul 9 2009, 07:03 PM)
Ape salahnye Realtek??  :/lol:

Ok maaa....
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ok tapi kalu paka kat high end rig cam x padan je bro, isn't it???? laugh.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 07:12 PM)
Entah bro apa salahnye realtek, ok jugak maa :/P
But seriously the AL889 is good actually.. Its way better than the usual AL888 etc.. :/)
X semua org mampu beli Ahsus Xonar loh :l/ol:
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nganjing yer... mad.gif

QUOTE(momuchi @ Jul 9 2009, 08:23 PM)
it`s 720BE 0904 EPMW 100% can unlocked 4th core?
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not all but chances are big... that's a 3.9GHz prime stable batch... drool.gif

QUOTE(amdhunter @ Jul 9 2009, 08:26 PM)
i tried just now..
i just enable the acc at bios..
but cannot boot..  :/shakehead:
maybe i donno how to do ehh  :/lol:
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u need special bios from china i think, or ask d japanse guy in xs... smile.gif

QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 9 2009, 08:31 PM)
if biostar 790GX 128M can unlock..
if biostar 790GX A3+ dunno.. :/P
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can w/ special bios... nod.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 9 2009, 08:34 PM)
Yup ah_khoo mention about it b4, something about AM3 mobo from biostar not able to unlock yet due to not having the right bios or something :/hmm:
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http://bbs.ocer.net/thread-290146-2-1.html

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jul 10 2009, 12:32 AM)
Tak jugak... flex.gif

To me, a high end rig is either for showing off or got a lot of money dunno what to do... hmm.gif

However, the purpose of the rig is usually associated with computational power and that translates to a powerfull processor, high speed ram, quality chipset and X2 Graphics card... rclxm9.gif

Imagine this...a Blood Red F430 with carbon seats, no radio, no Bose speakers and no carpets...but what it does have is a remapped ECU from Koenigg, a set of titanium exhaust from J&E, uprated suspension by Eibach Ferdern and 600bhp worth of horses under its bonnet... sweat.gif

Or, do you prefer the same model without the goodies mentioned, but it does come with an Alpine F1 headunit+processors+amp+monoblock, Bose all around speakers n woofers...?? whistling.gif

What say u?? tongue.gif
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wah bro... a mid~high end sound card (be it pci or pci-e based) is barely d price of a pair of performance ram, not gonna cost a fortune to those who can afford or even us d average joe (at least me). i'm not talkin bout DAC here which will cost alot more, imo a decent sound system doesn't need to be super expensive, especially for music listenin a pair of 2.1 speaker like AE Aego M or Klipsch Promedia 2.1(not necessarily these 2 but i consider 'em are very3 gud pair ledi) coupled w/ xonar/x-fi will do d job extremely well. for gamin wise can either go for lower end but more channels or high end 5.1/7.1 depend on budget. believe me, decent sound card + speaker mostly can last at least half a decade, way worthy than those "engine" parts like cpu/ram/gfx. nod.gif

now pairin speaker of level mentioned w/ on-board apu does sound "x ngam" rite? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 10 2009, 09:56 AM)
Miahahaha, my last soundcard was the Live! Gamer card, still acceptable ke with our current standard? laugh.gif
I stopped using it when i use my old Abit NF7-S 2.0 mobo coz its Nvidia soundstorm APU was kicking my Live! card in the butt.. laugh.gif
Been sooo long since i bought myself a soundcard.. So far i'm still satisfied with the onboard soultions..
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try x-fi/xonar bro, they'll blow ya mind away... trust me... thumbup.gif

i used to think that way when i was on sound storm, but after i switch to a lowly av-710 (via envy chipset), i don't feel like usin on-board apu nemore. d card is so so in gamin, but music wise it can even pwn audigy, ofcoz this is subjective but if u have sensitive hearin then u'll definitely agree w what i say. wink.gif

mebe i'm more of a music person, gamers have diff taste i guess. nod.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 10 2009, 10:07 AM)
Udah cukup tuh..Maybe you like to hear music nice to ear..For me..as long can hear okay la..Unless i spend speaker RM 500 ++ and use on board..thats other thing whistling.gif
?Cloudwan whatelse o?What ur latest?PM me loh..tis thread move too fast already..maybe tonight i chg new ver..

doh.gif imageshack error..i already updated just now  shakehead.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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i know it's kinda off topic, nothing's wrong havin some healthy discussion instead of spammin w/ one liner reply rite? rolleyes.gif

not askin u to pair a xonar/x-fi w a pair of speaker that cost < RM100, that's overkill. but d point is if u can afford a 790fx board, it's almost impossible that u don't own a pair of decent speaker. and that pair of speaker can put for better use if pair w sound cards mentioned instead of usin d on-board apu. it's not for show off purposes or what so ever if u know how to maximize d use of it. when u get older, u tend to value quality stuffs instead of bling2 stuffs. nod.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 10 2009, 10:26 AM)
Miahahaha, maybe later ah bro, bila bajet ada.. Mau soundcard warna putih tuh, i forgot the name.. laugh.gif
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ur referrin to this ah bro? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 10 2009, 10:27 AM)
too bad i have no screeny x4 1hr prime test...
just 30mins...haish..

at last my name is in the database edi..

@cloudwan.. my bad..ur source seems to be more reliable..

ah khoo..one question..the big headphone that basically need an amp to produce tha bass... can the soudcard (noob about soundcard la..but i want creative) produce the bass?

sign0006.gif anyone have a value ddr2 ram and LCD to pass to me? i wtb
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u dun need to prime @ so high vcore, ya chip need 1.3x only for a 3.6GHz @ quad rite? even a 3.5GHz will be gud enuf... nod.gif

i'm still very3 noob in audiophile but from what i know u need sound card w gud opamp(s) to "drive" a decent headphone which doesn't come cheap. sweat.gif

anyone want 4GB reaper 1066? brows.gif

@ TS,

pls include my submission:

AMD X4 810 @ 6MB L3 | 3510MHz (13 x 270MHz) | ah_khoo | DFI LP DK 790FXB-M2RSH | 4GB OCZ Reaper DDR2 1066 | 1080MHz | 5-5-5-15-26 | Scythe Mugen II

SS HERE

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 10 2009, 04:35 PM)
Xper, ramai lagi member yg x tukar lg.. verdict, fuzore, ventrilocks, ah_khoo  whistling.gif , even TS pun x tukar lg laugh.gif
Tgk lah nanti sapa yg pkai tracer DDR3 dulu  brows.gif
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tunggu lame2 yer bro, i'm retirin w/ my current rig, will focus on enhancin instead of changin this & that, i consider my rig is almost complete (thou it's far outdated compared to others w/ ddr3 or 4xx0 series gfx whistling.gif ) apart of lackin a modular psu... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 12 2009, 04:01 AM)
wahaha..no money laa kunta..

ventri,

actually this asus got some issue when wana oc @ X4..have to play with the bios alot  sweat.gif but its part of the frustration and fun for me  tongue.gif
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let me guess, colorful display when unlockin is done... am i rite bro? smile.gif
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 12 2009, 11:49 PM)
hey guys, just started oc-ing my phenom today, and wanted to ask something. whats the nominal or expected temps for the northbridge?

my spec is 9150e, managed to push it to 2520 (280*9) and both NB and HT multi's are 7x, so the values are both around 1960. My temperature however for the NB was around 89C. this scared me, so switched off to do some research, which has now led me here.

system information would be in my siggie.
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did u remove d stock cooler, remove d protective foam (d squarish black/yellow sponge), and replace d stock paste w those of better grade like mx-2 or so? manufacturer like dfi is notorious w their stock components coolin. doh.gif

QUOTE(meh_man @ Jul 13 2009, 05:46 AM)
Hi there oc sifu's
I posted here before about getting my DDR2 RAM to post at 1066 speed but failed.

Major reason due to crap oc mobo M4A78 Plus

I just bought a new Biostar TA790GX mobo which is far more better

But after some tweaking...I still failed to get my ram to post at 1066

I think its because the FSB:DRAM ratio set at 1:2 (I could not find the setting at the bios)

My Specs
720 Black Edition with stock cooling and speeds
Biostar TA790GX
Team Xtreem Dark 4GB 1066 DDR2 running at 800mhz
Silverstone ST560F

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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ratio 1:2 is @ devider 800 lah mate... go set it properly in bios (last tab). smile.gif

QUOTE(verdict @ Jul 13 2009, 07:46 AM)
Kunta dude!

What is your highest NB temp while priming ??? hmm.gif

My highest was 68c without any thrd party fans! doh.gif
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mine @ 63'c w/o fans in my rig's new home. sweat.gif

QUOTE(fuzore @ Jul 13 2009, 08:23 AM)
u will need to set the ram speed manually if u wanna see it running on 1066mhz go to ur bios and look for dimm setting ....

look at this two ss here

spot the diff and i hope u understand..
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sifu in action... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(verdict @ Jul 13 2009, 09:18 AM)
Wohohoho!

BTW mine was 68c!!! shocking.gif

Now using the alternative way!

sis ah_khoo wut it the max temp for NB???
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i reckon 65'c max after i put my mugen 2 in push-pull config. should have abandon d idea of push-pull thingy coz once i put in d "pull" fan, i can't squeeze in d 4cm fan on top of d nb cooler as well as d 6cm fan on heatpipe mosfet cooler... sad.gif
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QUOTE(meh_man @ Jul 13 2009, 09:28 AM)
what is core divider ?
i got 5 option there...
divide by 1,2,4,8,16

i still failed to post at 1066
my cpu would have to run at 3.8 ghz which is and impossible oc
i think its because of the FSB:DRAM ratio not set(which i don't know how to set)
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not core devider mate, it's something like mem configuration something.... can't remember much coz my short term mem is sucks. it's where u can choose ddr400, ddr533, ddr667, ddr800 & ddr1066. nod.gif

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QUOTE(meh_man @ Jul 13 2009, 09:43 AM)
thought about bumping the HT to 2200 because (800*2=1600,i want the ram at 1066 so 1066*2=2132)
is that even possible ?
u gotta be kiddin me mate... that's beyond d capability of most ddr3 ram, let alone ddr2... doh.gif
QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 13 2009, 10:10 AM)
im looking 1066 stock ram.. tongue.gif
wanna try oc 1066 to 1333 if possible.. laugh.gif
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even d great ocz blade ddr2 1200 can't reach ddr2 1333 easily i think, let alone those dd2 1066 which most are just overclocked ddr2 800 modules (almost reach their limit). sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 13 2009, 10:44 AM)
really?dunno..still nub in ram..
also i wan 2X2GB.. hmm.gif

@ah_khoo
really meh? so 1066 ram is 800MHz OC at 2.0v?
baik beli 800 je camtu.. sweat.gif
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most if not all i reckon. smile.gif
QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 13 2009, 10:49 AM)
He must be confused with DDR methology, it's supposed to be 533*2=1066mhz, no such thing yet as 1066*2=2132mhz laugh.gif
Miahahaha, just tgk kunta ma, beli DDRII 800 yg bole g 1066mhz  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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yup2, buy ddr2 800 module which can do 1072MHz @ moderate vdimm like my twinmos... brows.gif

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