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post Oct 7 2009, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 7 2009, 01:37 PM)
Amazon is now opening up predorder for the International Wireless version of the Kindle. Kindle for US is further price-slashed to USD259, which is without "international wireless". The new International Wireless version is priced at USD279.

What does all this means? This means that you can use the International Wireless version in "more than 100 countries worldwide" since it employs the usage of GSM network, tied to AT&T's roaming partners to these countries. The charges are still "free" inside continental US, but every book downloaded internationally via the international wireless provided by roaming partners of AT&T is charged USD1.99 per book/periodicals.

What does this means to those on the fence here in Malaysia? I've checked to see whether Amazon ships to Malaysia, and they still dont. The closest country is Australia. The allure of using the Whispernet download service internationally is not there for me, since they added the additional USD1.99 charge per book download everytime a book is downloaded wirelessly outside US. I think I'll stick to purchasing the books and download them from Amazon's Digital Locker.

For newcomers, it is an option though. It is just not enough an incentive to upgrade for roaming travellers like me.
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i was hoping to be able to buy via this new 'international wireless version' of the Kindle but alas, it was not to be:(

have to stick to buying paper versions i guess;)
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:15 PM

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Ya i was ecstatic when I saw the international version. I wish they do support Malaysia soon.
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post Oct 7 2009, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Oct 7 2009, 02:12 PM)
Does Kindle (not DX) support native pdf? like DX do?
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Native, no. Only the DX does that. Emailing yourself back the PDF or transferring the PDF via USB subjects it to the arrangement made by the Kindle to make it fit.
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post Oct 10 2009, 12:41 AM

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I read about your suggested "tweak" or "method" on getting the Kindle2 to work in Malaysia and Singapore on other blogs and sites, too. I feel it is rather troublesome and so many hoops and complications to go through to get it working. I feel like a hacker / pirate / thief.

However, I really really want to get the Kindle 2 or any other e-reader. I am a reading addict and go through a handful of books a month when I get in the mood. Bookcase also running out of space soon. So getting an e-reader would be perfect.

I feel like I should wait until Amazon officially ship and offer Whispernet to Malaysia. I can also guarantee better support and warranty that way, just in case. Anyone knows when this will happen?

Then, I also started browsing for other competitive products. Other than the niche market products like Hanlin, BeBook and Sony e-reader, I also hear that Apple will be coming up with their version early next year. I know that e-reader will be one of those gadgets that will eventually take the lifecycle of mp3 players in future.

Should I get the Kindle 2 now and upgrade to a different one later when a better alternative is more widely available? It would cost money though, but if it's a worth purchase, I don't mind. Any suggestions?
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post Oct 10 2009, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(winniechen @ Oct 10 2009, 12:41 AM)
I read about your suggested "tweak" or "method" on getting the Kindle2 to work in Malaysia and Singapore on other blogs and sites, too. I feel it is rather troublesome and so many hoops and complications to go through to get it working. I feel like a hacker / pirate / thief.

However, I really really want to get the Kindle 2 or any other e-reader. I am a reading addict and go through a handful of books a month when I get in the mood. Bookcase also running out of space soon. So getting an e-reader would be perfect.

I feel like I should wait until Amazon officially ship and offer Whispernet to Malaysia. I can also guarantee better support and warranty that way, just in case. Anyone knows when this will happen?

Then, I also started browsing for other competitive products. Other than the niche market products like Hanlin, BeBook and Sony e-reader, I also hear that Apple will be coming up with their version early next year. I know that e-reader will be one of those gadgets that will eventually take the lifecycle of mp3 players in future.

Should I get the Kindle 2 now and upgrade to a different one later when a better alternative is more widely available? It would cost money though, but if it's a worth purchase, I don't mind. Any suggestions?
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I'm debating myself on whether or not I should get the Kindle 2 or wait out. But who knows how long it's going to take? I was so excited when I read about this new edition only to see it's not supported in Malaysia. What a letdown.
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QUOTE(winniechen @ Oct 10 2009, 12:41 AM)
I read about your suggested "tweak" or "method" on getting the Kindle2 to work in Malaysia and Singapore on other blogs and sites, too. I feel it is rather troublesome and so many hoops and complications to go through to get it working. I feel like a hacker / pirate / thief.

However, I really really want to get the Kindle 2 or any other e-reader. I am a reading addict and go through a handful of books a month when I get in the mood. Bookcase also running out of space soon. So getting an e-reader would be perfect.

I feel like I should wait until Amazon officially ship and offer Whispernet to Malaysia. I can also guarantee better support and warranty that way, just in case. Anyone knows when this will happen?

Then, I also started browsing for other competitive products. Other than the niche market products like Hanlin, BeBook and Sony e-reader, I also hear that Apple will be coming up with their version early next year. I know that e-reader will be one of those gadgets that will eventually take the lifecycle of mp3 players in future.

Should I get the Kindle 2 now and upgrade to a different one later when a better alternative is more widely available? It would cost money though, but if it's a worth purchase, I don't mind. Any suggestions?
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they are not complicated. If you want it in a simpler term, make two accounts, one to fed the credit, the other to purchase the books. Purchased books are loaded into a virtual location where you can download them into your Kindle. Simple.

The new development of international roaming, does not come without its price. Even if it does come to Malaysia, every book downloaded now comes with additional USD1.99 per download. That inflates the price, to some, enough to warrant discounting the attractiveness of buying e-book edition and go straight for paperbacks.

Amazon took its own sweet time opening up international roaming for Kindle. Three years. IIANM. That is also part of because the added pressure from other players in the market (Sony, Barnes & Nobles' Plastic Logic e-reader, etc). Tying up a deal with a local telco for Whispernet is as expeditious as how the iPhone makes its way to Malaysia: snail-pacingly slow. If you are just dealing with Whispernet, the alternative service, called Whispersync, available on the iPhone is available for free, which turns the iPhone into an e-book reader as well. It syncs all your Amazon e-book purchase to your iPhone. Problem is, to me at least, is the iPhone screen is not favourable for extended reading period.

QUOTE(xjairo @ Oct 10 2009, 03:07 AM)
I'm debating myself on whether or not I should get the Kindle 2 or wait out. But who knows how long it's going to take? I was so excited when I read about this new edition only to see it's not supported in Malaysia. What a letdown.
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Read my post above. Amazon dont operate on a predicatable timetable when it comes to international releases.
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post Oct 18 2009, 10:34 PM

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Stringfellow, so far you have provided me excellent advice. I've done the following:
- ordered the Kindle via my Amazon a/c (Malaysian a/c)
- got it forwarded to a friend in the US
- US friend has shipped to me in KL
- after receiving it, gifted it to my wife :-)
- she followed your advice to register a non-international email a/c
- she followed your advice to register Account A & Account B at Amazon

BUT now she is stuck, because she is attempting to register the Kindle device to Account B as per your advice, BUT Amazon is letting her know that the Kindle has automatically been registered. I suspect the Kindle was auto registered when I bought it out of my account. Any idea how to 'un-register' it so she can register it to her Account B?

Please help. She was so excited and now we are stuck at the last few steps to set it up.

thx
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Added on October 18, 2009, 10:37 pm
QUOTE(dzulkifly @ Oct 18 2009, 10:34 PM)
Stringfellow, so far you have provided me excellent advice. I've done the following:
- ordered the Kindle via my Amazon a/c (Malaysian a/c)
- got it forwarded to a friend in the US
- US friend has shipped to me in KL
- after receiving it, gifted it to my wife :-)
- she followed your advice to register a non-international email a/c
- she followed your advice to register Account A & Account B at Amazon

BUT now she is stuck, because she is attempting to register the Kindle device to Account B as per your advice, BUT Amazon is letting her know that the Kindle has automatically been registered. I suspect the Kindle  was auto registered when I bought it out of my account. Any idea how to 'un-register' it so she can register it to her Account B?

Please help. She was so excited and now we are stuck at the last few steps to set it up.

thx
Dzul
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This is the print screen:
Your Kindle can only be registered to one Amazon.com account and is currently registered to another user account. If you received this Kindle as a gift it may have been automatically registered to the person who purchased the gift for you. Before it can be registered to your account you must deregister it from the current account. You can deregister the Kindle wirelessly right from the device by following these steps:

Turn the power and wireless switches on the back of the Kindle to the On position.
Visit the Home screen by clicking the house icon on the keyboard.
Click on the "Menu" option using the scroll wheel.
From the menu select "Settings."
From "Settings" page, click on deregister.
After the Kindle is deregistered, you can then register your kindle to your Amazon.com account via that same "Settings" page.

If you are still unable to register, please contact customer service at 1-866-321-8851.
Register a new Kindle


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post Oct 19 2009, 02:58 AM

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If it is registered to your account, log into your Amazon account. Click on "Your Account" link on the top right, and click "Manage Your Kindle" once you are on that page.

If your Kindle is registered to this account, there will the name of the Kindle on the first table you see on that page, and a "Deregister" link. Click on that link to deregister the Kindle off this account.

LOG OFF this account, and log into the account you want to register your Kindle with. The same procedure again, click "Your Account" and "Manage Your Kindle", and you will come to the page where there is a window to enter a 16-digit serial number for your Kindle. Follow your instruction manual on where to find this serial number. Once this is done, the Kindle will be registered to this account. All you need to do now is to test it out to see if the account for downloading your Kindle books.

At the top, the "Search" window should already have "Kindle Books" as the preselected search parameter. Do a search or browse through the Kindle catalogue for a free Kindle book to download. Click to purchase. There had been conflicting stories of some users being able to use the "1-Click" feature to immediately purchase free Kindle books, while others are saying that you need to top up credit into the account and make your first purchase first before you can use the "1-Click" purchase to even buy free Kindle books. Test it out to see if your "1-Click" purchase works, otherwise, you may have to top up your credit to make your first purchase. USD10 should be enough, and I recommend Dan Brown's "The Lost Symbol" for USD9.90 if you're thinking of a particular book.

Do this, and click "Manage Your Kindle" again. Scroll down to the bottom to see the list of purchase you have made under "Your Order". Under each title, there is a dropdown menu that allows you to deliver to any of the registered devices that is tied to this account, or transfer them to your computer. I have 4 devices registered to my account, my Kindle 2 and my iPhone and 2 iPod Touches. For iPhone and iPod Touch, they are delivered via Whispersync wireless through the native app on the iPhone/iPod Touch. You need to register these devices first to the account you want to sync to. But in your case, choose "Transfer to Computer". A download will begin, and you can then drag-and-drop the .AZW file into your Kindle 2, connected via USB. Your Kindle will appear as a storage device on your computer.
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post Oct 19 2009, 03:48 PM

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Thx so much, we managed to succesfully deregister and reregister as per your advice.

But what has NOT been succesful is that we have not been able to find the gift card credit (I tested with US$15 first) in her Account B. Despite seeing that in Account A the gift order has actuallly been made. As of this reply, its already been 15 hours. Does it take this long normally for gift cards to be credited to the recipient's account? Or should wait until 24 hours to check again?
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The credit will be delivered in the form of redeem code into your Account B's email address. It should only take less than 2 hours to arrive, sometimes instantaneous.

The credit will not appear as credit in Account B until it is redeemed into it. Think of it as your prepaid code for your cellphone.
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post Oct 19 2009, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
Read my post above. Amazon dont operate on a predicatable timetable when it comes to international releases.
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Thanks.

Speaking of Plastic Logic, I did some research about it. It's very intriguing. The size is a bit big, in my opinion. I think I'm going to wait for that to release and see what they have to offer. The Sony Reader Touch Edition is really interesting too. Obviously because of the swiping action to turn the page and the ability to write on screen. But I can't make up my mind still on which one to get.

The IRex iliad looks really good too, but it costs a bomb.


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For me my choice is largely swayed by the content provider. At the time of this post, only Amazon has a coherent distribution system. The rest rely on the user end to find ways to provide content for their readers.

Don't get me wrong. I am orgasmic for Plastic Logic reader. I just hope that Barnes & Nobles distribution system is as awesome as their reader.
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post Oct 20 2009, 10:51 AM

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Stringfellow, so far you've been a great help. I have now been able to credit the gift card into the Amazon account. Silly me should have known how to retrieve the gift card redemption code. Exactly like you said, its like a prepaid code.

However the most frustrating part now, is that whenever I click on a Kindle Book, then select Buy now with 1-Click, the following results (see attachment):

"XXX, please contact us or change your country to complete your purchase
You attempted to purchase an item while in a different country than listed on your Amazon account"

I think I've done everything correctly:
-entered a US address for the Amazon Account B registration
-entered a US address for the credit card billing address listed in Account B
-even entered a US phone number into the same fields

Is Amazon trying to match the non-US credit card to a US address, than failing to pass? But if the gift card credits are already sufficient, why is Amazon trying to verify this then?

Or is Amazon going back to the source of the email address for Account B, which is a gmail account and somehow can detect that the gmail account is not from within the US.? How is that possible?

Pls help! icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(dzulkifly @ Oct 20 2009, 10:51 AM)
Stringfellow, so far you've been a great help. I have now been able to credit the gift card into the Amazon account. Silly me should have known how to retrieve the gift card redemption code. Exactly like you said, its like a prepaid code.

However the most frustrating part now, is that whenever I click on a Kindle Book, then select Buy now with 1-Click, the following results (see attachment):

"XXX, please contact us or change your country to complete your purchase
You attempted to purchase an item while in a different country than listed on your Amazon account"

I think I've done everything correctly:
-entered a US address for the Amazon Account B registration
-entered a US address for the credit card billing address listed in Account B
-even entered a US phone number into the same fields

Is Amazon trying to match the non-US credit card to a US address, than failing to pass? But if the gift card credits are already sufficient, why is Amazon trying to verify this then?

Or is Amazon going back to the source of the email address for Account B, which is a gmail account and somehow can detect that the gmail account is not from within the US.? How is that possible?

Pls help!  icon_question.gif
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Amazon is checking the ip address of the orders. Try using Hotspot Shield www.hotspotshield.com to circumvent this. Download the app install then launch your browser again .Log into amazon with your b account. Make sure hotspotshield is connected. It worked for me
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Thx Shaft111

It seems that hotspotshield only protects our IP identity when we are anonymously browsing. But I think as soon as we sign in to a site, such as our Amazon account, then our IP is revealed again. Cause after your advice, I downloaded hotspotshield. But still getting the same message from Amazon.

Am so frustrated, paid so much for the Kindle but cant get any Kindle books yet.....
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QUOTE(dzulkifly @ Oct 20 2009, 11:06 PM)
Thx Shaft111

It seems that hotspotshield only protects our IP identity when we are anonymously browsing. But I think as soon as we sign in to a site, such as our Amazon account, then our IP is revealed again. Cause after your advice, I downloaded hotspotshield. But still getting the same message from Amazon.

Am so frustrated, paid so much for the Kindle but cant get any Kindle books yet.....
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hmmm strange indeed. Did you check if hotspot shield is on? It worked for me. When browsing in kindle store the country of origin tab on upper left hand side of page should be united states. Make sure the privacy setting on the hotspot tab is on and connected.
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post Oct 21 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(SHAFT111 @ Oct 20 2009, 11:34 PM)
hmmm strange indeed. Did you check if hotspot shield is on? It worked for me. When browsing in kindle store the country of origin tab on upper left hand side of page should be united states. Make sure the privacy setting on the hotspot tab is on and connected.
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tq tq tq tq tq, you guys are awesome

After many pinging back and forth the hotspot shield finally went green in colour from only yellow. Strange why it took a while. Then finally the Kindle Book went into Your Orders.

And I finally got the .azw file! But before I can say job completed for the first time some last problem occured! I must be jinxed!!

My notebook doesnt recognise the USB device (the Kindle), faulty or something. But when I plugged into my desktop it works, so it must be my notebook. Can I ask a dumb question, does the Kindle have a separate driver software as it seems like the way its marketed is as a plug and play device.


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QUOTE(dzulkifly @ Oct 21 2009, 12:10 AM)
tq tq tq tq tq, you guys are awesome

After many pinging back and forth the hotspot shield finally went green in colour from only yellow. Strange why it took a while. Then finally the Kindle Book went into Your Orders.

And I finally got the .azw file! But before I can say job completed for the first time some last problem occured! I must be jinxed!!

My notebook doesnt recognise the USB device (the Kindle), faulty or something. But when I plugged into my desktop it works, so it must be my notebook. Can I ask a dumb question, does the Kindle have a separate driver software as it seems like the way its marketed is as a plug and play device.
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SHAFT111, STRINGFELLOW - you guys are geniuses. notworthy.gif I finally got the book on to the Kindle. So from now on a) the process is already set up b) always remember to have gift card credits topped up, and c) DO THE FINAL PURCHASE WITH HOTSPOTSHIELD ON to avoid IP recognition.

we both go through normal books like crazy, so this will save us buckets! and look cool while doing it rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 19 2009, 07:41 PM)
For me my choice is largely swayed by the content provider. At the time of this post, only Amazon has a coherent distribution system. The rest rely on the user end to find ways to provide content for their readers.

Don't get me wrong. I am orgasmic for Plastic Logic reader. I just hope that Barnes & Nobles distribution system is as awesome as their reader.
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Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The Plastic Logic is so awesome I could drown in my own drool.


Edit: Just got the email from Barnes and Nobles. The new Nook eReader. Looks pretty cool.


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post Oct 22 2009, 12:24 PM

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Hi there. Does any one of you know where to get a Kindle Wireless Reading Device (6" Display, U.S. & International Wireless, Latest Generation) ....

Am thinking of getting one, but not sure whether I should or not. Please do help as I'm quite confused here, and new with Kindle.

Thanks loads smile.gif
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Thanks to Shaft for helping out Dzul. Enjoy your Kindle, Dzul, I know I am enjoying every minute of mine. 354 books and counting. Reading "Altered Carbon" by Richard Morgan now. Very cyberpunkish.

Annown, the Amazon Kindle you are referring to, is currently only shipping in the States. The only difference now is that instead of the old Sprint Whispernet network, it uses AT&T now, with international roaming. Not a good deal because every book downloads incur a USD1.99 additional charge. You will need someone to pick up the Kindle over on an American address, and ship it out to you to Malaysia.

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