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post Jul 7 2009, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 7 2009, 02:25 PM)
isnt slap stick a type of comedy involving exaggerated extreme physical violence or activities which exceed the boundaries of common sense, such as a character being hit in the face with a heavy frying pan or running into a brick wall? equates to Tom and Jerry/Road Runner. Stephen Chow Movies? The only slapstick moment i can think of is the Twins fighting and also Wheelie apart from that its just Simmons/Sam/Leo.

I thought first movie also had slapstick moments especially with frenzy?

well you did say those who laughed along with the second movie being of low quality.
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yes, but TF1 frenzy is small part. TF2 is full of it.

Yes, I did say so. And its true you know.
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(xin @ Jul 7 2009, 02:35 PM)
There is never a problem with comparing jokes between TF1 and TF2, it doesnt matter if which is better but the problem i see here is you are forcing ur standards to others when normal viewers find it acceptable and enjoyable to have a laugh. And rating majority as low quality audiences just because it insults your intelligent for some joke make yourself not much difference as a joke.
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I'm not forcing. But we just state our opinion. Some more, our opinion is agreed by Megan Fox that TF2 is brainless flick.

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 7 2009, 02:37 PM)
Regardless i still cant see how it insults my intelligence or yours since pretty much every movie has it present even The Rundown,if you dont quite get it probably have to go for those British humour like Little Britain, less slapstick.
so i if i'm into kapchais and you dont like kapchais that makes me a low quality person? so in that sense anyone who has a different opinion/taste/preference with you are not of par?
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Little Britain is nice? I'll watch out for that.

I'm not saying you're low quality person. You have to differentiate between a low quality person and low quality audience.
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(cypher @ Jul 7 2009, 03:06 PM)
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This is a very real serious shit ...
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This is not kopitiam. We need to have some intelligent discussion here.
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(D417137 @ Jul 7 2009, 03:17 PM)
Did anything come alive ?
Sam did mention Sentinel Prime didn't he ? Haha and Defensor. That would be cool and the Dinobots.

Yeah some of the jokes were a little overdone. The brownie pot one was still okay but the ones during the entire Air and Space museum segment were very very bleh~~ And maybe they could have done away with some jokes and developed their characters more...
Yeah some Brit comedies are nice and must sometimes think really hard.
How do you differentiate a low quality person and a low quality audience anyway ?

But seriously this movie really insults the audiences intelligence.
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Low quality person is person who have low morality and not deserve to be alive.
Low quality audience is audience who just grab whatever they are thrown with. Like Bay want to
insult their intelligent but they still accept. For example, a lot of people in cinema laugh over stupid
joke and the low quality audience will laugh together eventhough its insulting his intelligent. In real
life, probably this type of person is high quality person. Just that in cinema, its different story altogether.
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 7 2009, 03:18 PM)
At least those movies dont bring in stupid pot jokes,testicle jokes and lots of random scenes stuck together.There is not even a coherent,consistent storyline.Whoever who edited the movie should be shot.

The humour isnt low quality,it's just plain dumb and some of them are redundant like the mum scene or Leo.I dont see a point of Leo in the storyline.

They might as well replace those scenes with more Jolt,Arcee or Sideway.It's just plain stupid to see Sideways die at the beginning of the movie or Jolt only appeared for a few seconds. doh.gif Im watching transformers,not a movie with a lot of humans while transformers are just cameo.

I dont see why you like it so much.It's a piece of shit.
The way it is advertise,it looks like an average action movie.I dont expect much depth but lots of actions.

Instead,it's full of lame way over the top jokes with no storyline at all.

Even Red Alert 3's jokes arent so over the top as Transformers 2.
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Yeah, totally agree. I wonder why Bay want to make such a movie. Totally intelligent insulting movie.

QUOTE(cypher @ Jul 7 2009, 03:19 PM)
err...sorry...this is meant for those low quality audience which is not high intelligent as u...
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Like what I've said, you can post such things in Kopitiam. Not here.


Added on July 7, 2009, 3:23 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 7 2009, 03:21 PM)
Live with it.

Idiots from /k are everywhere now.
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Ok bro.

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post Jul 7 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 7 2009, 03:28 PM)
lol i wish but the boys are asked to sleep near the indigenous people's exhibit i was sleeping near a murut warrior,damn scary man haha. oh Yes the dinobots lol remember how they owned sharkticons in the animated movie? hehe.

Bro,the jokes again appeal to different audiences,if you feel its overdone or not good it basically means it didnt meet your requirement of being something you could laugh about in the first place, so its cool but it couldnt insult your intelligence as its not worthy of your laughter after all isnt it? If the majority agree the jokes are funny and if the ext polls seem to say the same things so for the most part its funny i guess?
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Normally in English, we'll said stupid joke/plot is an insult to intelligent. Its just figure of words.
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jul 7 2009, 03:29 PM)
I got no idea.

The script or editing is the main problem here.Then,it's the flow of the movie.

Im not talking about lame jokes here.

Pretender is also another pointless character.No introduction,just appear like that and die.Seriously,WTF is this?It's like taking Joker from TDK,suddenly burn Harvey Dent to Two Face in the first 3 minutes of the movie and Nolan never bother to explain why it happen after that and Two Face just run around killing people for the next 2 hours.Would you call that a good movie?
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oh totally agree. Before the pretender come out, I was thinking, oh, it couldn't be a robot gua....
But in the end, its a robot. I'm shocked and disgusted.


Added on July 7, 2009, 3:32 pm
QUOTE(xin @ Jul 7 2009, 03:31 PM)
intelligent thinking is an insult to a brainless flick.
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So you do agree this is full of plothole, lame joke and brainless flick.

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post Jul 7 2009, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 7 2009, 03:50 PM)
im sorry,english is not my first language but in all my years of using it i have never came across such a notion that stupid jokes/plot directly insults my intelligence. Did her majesty,the queen decree it in Great Britain? or is it just your assumption? if that is so wouldnt a boy getting bitten by a radioactive spider and then becoming a spider man with superhuman powers correlates to absolute bullocks? since there is no direct animal-human transmutation? wouldnt that insult my intelligence?


Added on July 7, 2009, 3:51 pm

he means the other way around  doh.gif


Added on July 7, 2009, 3:58 pm

i agree with Xin that this is a fan service that has been directly taken from the Marvel G1,IDW and DW version. They are supposed to be shells that can mimic humans to the last detail enabling them to blend in with the human society for espionage purposes. well the pretender being in the college is due to starscream's attempt in watching sam's every move. The pretender's mission was detailed in the prequel comic where it took the shape of Alice in wonderland or was it a doll? The reason why her origins were not detailed in the movie is to surprise the audience, i wouldnt know its a pretender till the last minute its tail wanted to pierce sam's head,thats a surprise element right there.
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Oh, its ok if your English is not your first language. That's why I'm saying that its just figure of words that bad movie is like insulting the
audience. Spiderman is ok. We accept that premise before we watch. But we don't accept lame jokes, plot holes, etc in TF2 because TF1
is so good.

One way or another, he still meant that its bad brainless flick.

Anyway, the pretender I'm not so surprise. As a matter of fact, I'm getting annoyed over that plot.
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post Jul 7 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 7 2009, 11:02 PM)
You sound like you're humping nimrod's leg.
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That's bad humour bro.... laugh.gif


Added on July 7, 2009, 11:54 pm
QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 7 2009, 11:31 PM)
Indeed.

I'm also perplexed as to how the humour in TF2 is similar to the humour in V For Vendetta and Saving Private Ryan.
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:40 PM)
I'm also LOLing at how he compares the dumb plot holes in TF2 with the romance in Titanic.
Aww, isn't he cute?  laugh.gif
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Yeah, he's getting more absurd. Not sure how to make him understand.

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post Jul 8 2009, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 8 2009, 12:02 AM)
I think he's being deliberately disingenuous. Claims to have never heard the phrase "insult one's intelligence".  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, some more his england is getting more bombastic.. laugh.gif
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post Jul 8 2009, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 8 2009, 01:28 AM)
people like him are the bane of movie goers. we want to watch entertaining movies and Transformers 2 is not it. he defends T2 as a good movie based on the box office gross, how stupid can this particular Malaysian be?
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wow, u're much better than me in explaining how pointless is TF2.

QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 01:28 AM)
Major weaksauce faux pas dude. Never reuse an insult immediately without a good twist!
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Wow, this is pwned in the face man.


Added on July 8, 2009, 1:33 am
QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 8 2009, 12:14 AM)
I think he's getting more and more pissed off.

Let's keep going.  laugh.gif
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the going is getting interesting.

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post Jul 8 2009, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 08:48 PM)
i really amaze d variety of words that this so called intelligent ppls used... smile.gif
but yet, no points to argue... smile.gif
y need sophisticated words if dunno what d main point is...
better band England rather than pretend to have good England...
yes no alright!!!

back top topic, i watched for 2nd time...free ticket...hehe
and yes i love d sound effect and cgi...again...hhuhu
i noticed somtng weird but heck even Heroes got many loophole and ppls still watch it...hehe
and if u still thinking that review will effect viewers, u are totally wrong....
cinema is packed like sardine...
and before movie started, a couple of ppls said this is their 3rd time of watching...hehe
so d impact is still there...
if u dont trust me, lets go to OU GSC this Saturday cuz i'm gonna watch Ice Age plak....
we can see d crowd for d lulz...hehe...peace... icon_rolleyes.gif
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A lot of people will watch Transformers because most people are growing up with Transformers. Even though its crap,
I will still watch it. I've also spent thousands of ringgit on Transformers toy because I'm transformers fan. Now waiting
to buy Leader Class Prime and Jetfire.

But I still hate TF2. Reason? Because TF2 is an insult to everyone's intelligent.

From my sentences above, do you understand why a lot of people watch Transformers?
And even its crap, people still watch it. And why?

If you still don't understand why shitty movie but still got a lot of people watch, then you're
part of the reason for destroying the Transformers movie. And as we all know, low quality
audience deserve low quality movie.
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jul 8 2009, 09:32 PM)
How do u define audience quality and what makes u more superior compared to the so-called low quality audience?

How do u ensure its an insult to EVERYONE'S intelligent when the majority doest agree with u?

Ppl watch it first time. They found it crap. Will they watch the 2nd time? If they do, its either the crap attracts them or they are crap. Ppl re-watch because they enjoy the movie and the minor critics u mentioned wont give a shit or influence the outcome of the movie unless u are....., yes!!! Nitpicking ~~


Added on July 8, 2009, 9:33 pm

Hmm. Where do u watch the movie? How do u know it was a letdown? By hearing critics and not experiencing it urself?
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I have proof:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_movie/
TF1 --> 57%

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transforme..._of_the_fallen/
TF2 --> 19%

Majority said TF1 is better than TF2. I also said the same.

Whoever said TF2 is good are low quality audience and is sending message to movie maker that there's
low quality audience out there looking for shitty action movie.

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http://marceyness.blogspot.com/2009/06/tra...-of-fallen.html

Transtesicles 2: Revenge of the Lame Jokes

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Added on July 8, 2009, 10:08 pmThis person summarize much of the lame jokes in the movie:

The script was terrible, it didn't make much sense, consistancy? Forget about it! Lame jokes? Check! Testicle jokes? Check! Stereotypes? Check! John Turturro's ass? Check! Seriously did anyone read the script? Did they bother to watch the first film again? The script was rushed, yes, but seriously a donkey could do better. Sure they want this to appeal to everyone, but did we need the lame and stupid toilet humor? No we did not. We didn't need to see dogs humping, we didn't need to see a bot humping Megans leg, what did that add to the story? Nothing! It got a pathetic this is lame laugh out of me. Skids and Mudflaps, why were they there? That was truly terrible! Why did Devestator have giant balls? Oh yeah, because they needed another lame testicle joke! This film was 2 and a half hours, it could have been edited to a 90min film and one that could easily get 4 stars. It dragged and felt so long by the second half, I wanted it to end.


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post Jul 8 2009, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:05 PM)


y need quoting from other webbie?? sad.gif
u r intelligent to give a pro standard critics what?? smile.gif
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Because I want to show that majority agree with me. It just show that Malaysian education system got problem.
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post Jul 8 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 10:09 PM)
You don't even seem to understand the definition of 'jargon'.
Whatever flaws of the movie has been gone over again and again in the previous pages. You have obviously just chosen to ignore it. Instead, all you post are rubbish irrelevent insults adding nothing to the discussion at all.
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Actually talking to tech_frix is an insult to my intelligent... laugh.gif
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post Jul 8 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:11 PM)
nope...they dont bother to explain a few things...
u should read from 1st page... smile.gif
thats y i said, my england is bad...
so u oso want to bash my england??plsss sir.... blush.gif
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Already explained clearly la. I think you need to read back. Else, you ask again properly and we might answer you if you ask
properly.
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post Jul 8 2009, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 10:11 PM)
It would be at least entertaining if his insults were witty....or made sense.
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Unfortunately its not. He seems like someone in Kopitiam. The Malay guy with the nick which I dun remember now.
Noob13 might know because he is in RWI Believers vs Non-believers. This Malay guy writing is like a kid. But he is
a doctor. The way he wrote is (for lacked of proper words), is a bit dumb. I don't know how to explain. I just laugh
trying to explain something to him. Well, tech_frix is like that. Its either both are same person or tech_frix is younger
than 12 years old.
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post Jul 8 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:12 PM)
congrats....u've made ur point there... rclxms.gif
i think u need to stand in front of any cinema that got full viewers everyday then print those review and distribute it to them... nod.gif
they will thank u wor...serious... biggrin.gif


Added on July 8, 2009, 10:13 pm

u r d GOD not me... smile.gif
pls judge my sin... nod.gif
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I'm not as dumb as you to do that.

QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 10:13 PM)
firstly, I'm no sir. secondly, what 'few things' have been left uncovered that could possibly redeem this movie? And puh-lease...you are freakin online! use google!
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You'll get high blood pressure if you keep on reading his reply....
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post Jul 8 2009, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:17 PM)
i never trust any nonsense about gender online...hehe blush.gif
i was saying about the slapstick jokes....
and u said u know how to google but dont know how to google about d true meaning of slapstick jokes? smile.gif
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Okok, I now got the nick of that Malay guy:

seijiseimura84

Are you him?



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