Movies LYN Official TRANSFORMERS Movie Thread: V2, Next: Transformers 3 - July 1st, 2011
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 Jul 8 2009, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:20 PM) i read d prev post but gogo2 dont answer on that part... wat you want me to answer about slapstick?he keep saying TF2 full with slapstick but dont want to explain?? thats an intelligent ppls for me...wayyy intelligent...   |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:22 PM) racist?? I'm not sure if that's consider racist. I was asked to fill up my race everytime I fill up a form. very intelligent....  |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:23 PM) plsss sir... John Turturro's ass is one of the slapstick comedy. Are you happy now? and explain with TF2 scene as example k?  |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:23 PM) plsss sir... I said "this Malay". Its not racist since Malaysian government always want to identify us with race. Is that ok with you? and explain with TF2 scene as example k? Added on July 8, 2009, 10:24 pm so this is not racist statement?? y dont put guy only?? still need to use race?? If not, then vote out Barisan Nasional in the next election. That way, we'll have Ketuanan Rakyat government  Added on July 8, 2009, 10:30 pm QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:26 PM) i thought u said TF2 full with slapstick joke??? 1.John Turturro's ass that only one wise one...  2.dogs humping, 3.bot humping Megans leg 4.Skids and Mudflaps, 5.Devestator have giant balls Since skids and mudflaps appear throughout the movie, so, yes, TF2 full of slapstick comedy. This post has been edited by gogo2: Jul 8 2009, 10:31 PM |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:32 PM) suddenly go politics?? Are you talking to yourselves? Because all Malaysian always identify people with race. And we all racist.wayyyy intelligent for me...  dont stay Malaysia then bro... go Australia...it fits u...u can meet friendly Australian there...and they dont have racist there...hehe Since you said I'm racist and it seems you don't like me, then you're the one who should go to Australia. Seems like the way you post show how dumb are you. Whoever said TF2 is ok has just equate their intelligent same as you which is lacking a lot of it.  QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:32 PM) and can u conclude that slapstick joke is for low quality audience?? Unfortunately, TF2 slapstick comedy is terrible and does not fit into place. Its just not suitable.on what stand u line ur statement?? what kind of demographics and methodologies u been using to classified slapstick joke only for unintelligent viewers? Rowan Atkinson, Robin Williams and many comedy said that to u? |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 10:37 PM) one just has to read the last few pages to get an idea of the quality of your contributions. and if posting on internet forums have taught me anything, searching a users previous posts is always a good thing to do, to judge the kind of person you are potentially dealing with. Can you please arrest him now?   |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:39 PM) aik...u r d one that mentioning about ketuanan aite? I mention. So? I didn't said I'm not ok with racism. I'm full of it. But you seems like want to identify me asu r d one that need to go Aussie to enjoy their hospitality to u wor... now u know how dumb am i??wow...  but still u dont answe my Q correctly... u were d one barking about slapstick joke now u said like that oni?? and how many ppls agree with ur statement?? can u make a list?? racist person. So seems like you don't like racism. So why the hell you ask me to Australia instead of yourself dum dum? I've answered you la. Come on. Don't make yourself look like a fool. You just make other TF2 fan like nimrod looks bad since they share the same idea like you for TF2.  |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:48 PM) u r d one dat suppose to go Aussie cuz u no need to say u chinese or whatsoever race u were when filling up forms over there.... I want to fill up my race because I'm proud of my race boy/dum dum. me a fool??thanks for d reminder... sir, before this u were barking that slapstick joke is bad and for unintelligent ppls... i just want to know where u got that idea??  who cares about other forummers cuz i was having a conversation with u sir... The slapstick in TF2 is bad. Where to get the idea? Come on. I got brain. Does that means you don't have?  |
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Jul 8 2009, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 10:55 PM) then go Aussie la and say u r Chinese and proud of it... I'm more proud to be Chinese in Malaysia ppls will like u there what?? about slapstick in TF2, thats just ur POV right?? ok let make it simple... which movie that u 'think' that have a good slapstick jokes? let me judge it then...deal? Added on July 8, 2009, 10:55 pm gotta admire ur skill of making dupe... YES!!!   For example, slapstick jokes is good in Ace Ventura. |
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Jul 8 2009, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jul 8 2009, 11:00 PM) u said that Malaysia got ketuanan?? Its supposed to be over acting and exagerrated because its meant to be that way. Because its a slapstick comedy movieso y proud here??go Aussie la... i hate Jim Carey in Ace Ventura...  over acting and to exaggerated.. self hitting act in Ace Venture sux...d transvestite oso make me want to slap some monkey.. feel like watching a barbaric and unintelligent movie... so will it make Ace Ventura a failed movie for u?? do u feel unintelligent?? my friend. And I just give you this example. I'm not going to go out of topic anymore. |
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Jul 9 2009, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 8 2009, 11:59 PM) and how many of those represent the general public that went into the theaters thus far around the world? How can it be a mojority when it doesnt represent everybody else? Majority of reviewers said that TF1 > TF2. Reviewers is someone who is more critical of movie.And if you think reviewers of TF2 is wrong, means, reviewers of TF1 also wrong. Does that means TF2 > TF1? Of course not. If there's slight amount of critical mind in yourself, you should be able to think that TF1 indeed > TF2. And thus, the reviewers in TF2 is correct to give 19% which is pretty bad movie compare to TF1. |
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Jul 9 2009, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 9 2009, 12:14 AM) Courtesy from Nelson , he says it better to summarize Ebert's attempt at lashing at those who dont find his opinions ermm,how should i put it? hold water? thats about right. Not related but anyway:» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « copy pasta: http://forumplanet.gamespy.com/rants_and_r...47/20081571/p1/ -Countless lame attempts at sexual humor (It seems Michael Bay finally realized that whoring out Megan Fox would sell more tickets, and that's exactly what he did.) -Lame jokes overall -Ridiculously cliche one liners -excessive amounts of profanity which really had no place in it -absolutely annoying characters -Many moments dragged on, when they could have easily cut them shorter to get the same point across. -Silly attempt at making the audience give a shit about robots and their emotions -Corny ass love story mixed in 1. sexual humor is fine by me, when the setting and plot calls for it. Excessive amounts ranging from dog humping, to robot humping, etc just made cheap attempts at getting a laugh out of the audience. I'm all for toilet humor, when it's a movie like Hangover, but in Transformers, it was excessive, repetitive, and not close to funny at all. 2. lame jokes overall. I hardly even laughed out loud the entire 2 and a half hours. and when i did, it was because i realized i had wasted my money. 3. Just like in movies like terminator with "I'll be back" Transformers tried to establish some crappy one liners. 4. Profanity. I can't count the number of times I heard a decepticon call megan fox a b****. The robots talked alot more in this film, and most of the time when they opened their mouths, it followed with a number of cuss words. 5. Annoying characters. Two which I utterly hated: the mother, and the twin autobots. When trying to be funny, all three just became the most annoying characters in the movie for me. 6. Too long. a 20 minute action scene/running scene could have been cut down tremendously and be given the same "Wow" effect. 7. I felt that the movie tried too hard to make the audience care about this blood feud between the auto bot and decepticons. 8. Love stories. Have no place in an action movie. |
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Jul 9 2009, 12:25 AM
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 Added on July 9, 2009, 12:27 am QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 9 2009, 12:23 AM) hell if i follow your logic,i'd say im not worthy of synthesizing a fictional story about some alien robotic species fighting on earth and have to rely on someone else's ability to synthesize for me. When we all talk about lame joke of TF2, everyone agree. Do you think TF2 joke is lame? If yes, then you're alreadyI feel the reviewers or critics if you may, are just doing their jobs, but they also differ in terms of their personal taste,liking and etc etc so in a sense not one critic can be the same with the other, how many of those who contributed to the 56% ratings actually contributed towards the 19% in the second movie? hell if i didnt know better 56% isnt a top notch score to begin with isnt it? so the reviewers werent really fond of the first movie either but the people liked it so, thats why at the end of the day the majority of the movie goers were happy with first one, at the end of the day its the accumulative sign of approval that determines whether the movie is good or bad,same goes when you vote for somebody for the elections,you wouldnt just base your judgement from a review will you? agreeing with me that TF2 is lame and annoying. Just because the action effect is cool does not make the movie good my friend. UNless of course you're telling me now that the jokes in TF2 is good and there's no unnecessary character/plot etc. If you said that, then you're having problem man. And yes, we might differed in opinion. But lame joke are lame joke. This post has been edited by gogo2: Jul 9 2009, 12:38 AM |
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Jul 9 2009, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 9 2009, 10:49 AM) I rather the audience did some "intelligent" nitpicking like how Decepticons in (slow) construction vehicle mode able to travel to the desert so fast from Paris, rather than "what happened to them in Paris? Did the cons thrash the whole city?". When I watch transformers, I don't really care how come it travel so fast. I can accept all this. Onlynitpicker like you will nitpick over such small matter. But real critics will talk about how some lame joke/unnecessary plot spoil the overall experience of the film. After so many things being said, I really disappointed at you for not able to give a proper rebuttal to support such a shitty film. |
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Jul 9 2009, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Jul 9 2009, 12:46 PM) Here's my own opinion. Actually from TF1 and TF2 i do think that all the transformers look ugly to me. Maybe i am used to the comics and cartoon type of design. Anyone thinks the same ? Yes. But its alright since Bay want to portray Transformers as alien. I'm not sure how would it turn out ifTF1/TF2 robot looks like the one in G1. Erm |
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Jul 9 2009, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 9 2009, 12:50 PM) From reading reviews by critics on various movies, these "professional" critics have limited range of "measurement" in terms of movie's final "opinion": You got it wrong. We don't join the measurement method that you've mentioned. For example, TF1 is not worthy of oscar material.shit/junk ----------- oscar-material And we audience might have bigger range, for eg: shit/junk -------- poor --------- average flick -------- could be better --------- must-watch ------- epic/oscar-material WHat I found out it... some viewers join in the professional critics measurement method and directly label movies as shit. Is it really that bad until its shit-like to the lowest level? Not a single redeeming value? not even "poor" ? Or its just a "join bandwagon" thingy coz of "we wanted to be in the hip group" or "the critics have spoken. so shit it shall be" ? I personally think the TF2 entertains (me), but not till the must-watch level. just "could be better". I do nitpick on its plotholes, among others. But throughout the course of discussion, the word "shit" and lowest level of movie rating denomination are posted, some without even elaborating much. If elaborate also , its always the few gripping items that seemingly spoil the rating. It like judging a hot supermodel as "shit" because she has a few obvious moles on her arms and legs, without paying regard to her face/body/posture. its like -90% on moles, and 5% point each on the rest. The CGI and action for TF2 looks good though (not exceptional), maybe I didnt "watch" the movie inspecting each and every frame to see which CGI renders didnt match the real life background. Whats most saddening is .... those who opined the movie as shitty, started to insults the rest with personal attacks. But we didn't say TF1 is shitty. As a matter of fact, we love TF1 to a must watch measurement. To be in shitty material, TF2 is part of it. I love the CGI in TF2. I'm fan of brainless flick. But some part of the TF2 is not suitable to be there. This causing TF2 to be shitty movie. For example, if you put such lame joke in Matrix, what happened? You get the drift? Its just not suitable in Transformers movie. Conclusion: TF2 is a shitty brainless action flick |
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Jul 9 2009, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 9 2009, 01:03 PM) Yes. I nitpick the stuff that matters to me, which doesnt matter to you. Same goes vice-versa. You think its shitty because some plot doesnt make sense with lame jokes. It matters to me too, but NOT that much. I still enjoy it in a different angle like the battling robots. You're not wrong, and Im not either. Are you saying you're kid? If you're adult, you should have the same thinking like adult human right? If you're still kid, sorry thatYou shudn't be dissapointed. ANy kind of rebuttal wont satisfy critics, coz its mere personal opinion by me, which is DEFINITELY wont be accepted by all. Critics are adult humans. They're mislead by the huge marketing campaign and think its a "serious epic movie" . but we all know its still a movie is based on Toys and with the blessing of the toy company, which in the end, wanted the movie as a vehicle to sell more toys rather than win an oscar for it. To do so, it has to appeal to kids, not adult critics . I reply you in such matter. Haha... because I thought you're adult.. FYI, as adult, we don't laugh at lame/unnecessary joke unless you deserve lame joke. Which means, low quality audience deserve low quality film. |
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Jul 9 2009, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 9 2009, 01:20 PM) what the.... they are aliens,its a known fact since the Takara toy making days,even before the Americans bought the whole franchise under Hasbro. They wouldnt follow G1 designs because its 2D,thats why its all boxy and stuff, If you want it to be relaistic,take prime for example you can see where the parts of the peterbilt truck is especially the engine block,tyres,exhaust pipes among other things, you cant hide all the this pipes and stuff it has to be realistic. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're just echoing my words... QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 9 2009, 01:20 PM) i see alot of people(adults) laughing at Russel Peters and other comedians who base their material on lame stuffs, by your convention that by being adults means no laughing at lame/unnecessary joke, what should they laugh at then? even laughing also got guideline one meh? Hello??? Did you read my previous few comments? Don't jump in and make yourself look like a fool. Please la. Lame joke must be at theright place. Comedian of course can have lame joke. But not in TF2. Its just not suitable and too lame. Added on July 9, 2009, 1:33 pm QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 9 2009, 01:29 PM) That is why it has poor ratings among critics. And its rated "low quality" by many adult audience because you've said it before, lame joke/plot. But then again, thats from the adult-audience demographic. Maybe kids love it. and those kids might rate it as "better quality" . I'm not sure why you want to use kid's perspective when we're discussing here. If you do that, you're creating unnecessaryJust because adults made proper/better decisions, doesnt mean kids does not have a say in judging a movie is good or not from their point of view. Well some adults TF fans label TF2 movie as crappy merely because its lacking some "fan element" they favored. But its their opinion and just like ours, its to each his own. We can't satisfy everybody from all demographic. I understand you tried to look at it as a adult perspective because you're a adult. That's rigid. Just because we are adults, do we communicate/behave like adults when treating EVERYONE,EVERYTHING? I only put my shoes in a kid's perspective tried to see things from their point of view, and I still retain my adult-annoying-habit of nitpicking the plot (which suprised me because you don't care about my nitpicks, but you care about the poor plot, which contains some of the nitpicks judgement. I normally thought you guys are adult who are posting here. So I really feel disappoint when you guys are defending such lame movie. If you said from kids point of view the movie is nice, of course it is. Even lame joke is suitable for kids. When those lame jokes come out, I said to myself, "Only kids will laugh". Anyway, since you've made urself clear that this is great kiddy movie (with sexual scene  ) compare to TF1, I agree with youwhole-heartedly. You just said that Michael Bay made a kiddy pron  This post has been edited by gogo2: Jul 9 2009, 01:33 PM |
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Jul 9 2009, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(xin @ Jul 9 2009, 01:36 PM) Optimus and Bumble Bee is still ok, just that i dun fancy their face design. Looks weird to me lol ... But Starscream was really fugly to me, like a triangle with head, arms and legs. Although they are the bad guys (Decepticons), it is just unfair for them to have such layout. Yaya, I also hate Starscream. Why triangle body? It looks so weird. |
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Jul 9 2009, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jul 9 2009, 01:41 PM) U r dead wrong. I've watched TF2 twice. In both occasions, I admit I laughed at the lame jokes, and the whole cinema (with half of them adults) laughed too. Yep, suddenly those adults are "kids". You're the one who said its for kids. Again, I dont know why you so "dissapointed" about. We can accept how you called its shitty, because your points and personal opinions are valid. Why you so "emo" and felt "dissapointed" at differing opinions by some of us? Why would me, thinking in my own perspective, rated it DIFFERENTLY from yours, make you dissapointed? In the end, I dunt care if you dont enjoy it . You just bring youself more -ve feeling by being "dissapointed" and seems like hell-bent of wanting the rest of us to agree with you. I;m just glad I enjoy the movie albeit its flaws. And since you can accept that we called it shitty, i rest my case. This is because its really lame and shitty. Enjoy it is one thing. Shitty is one thing. I think you cannot differentiate between enjoying and being critical. FYI, I do enjoy it because I'm fan of Transformers. But that does not stop me from criticise it. If you ask me whether I'll watch again, oh yes. But not in cinema. Probably DVD. The important point here is you can be critical although you're fan of Transformers. (About why adult laugh at lame joke, some people just laugh at everything. That's why low quality audience deserve low quality joke/movie. ) Added on July 9, 2009, 1:59 pm QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jul 9 2009, 01:49 PM) Aw. Too bad its not suitable for u. Better luck in future movies. Nah.. we criticize the film in its entirety. I do like to watch TF2 because I like robot and action. Just that I want to However, i advise u can get a fren to get a BDrip and edit away all the so-called lame jokes and see if it works for u becos the cumulative lame jokes only sums up to less than 5 min. If this caused u to have a bad movie day, i really feel sorry for u. So then, watever makes u happy will do because for me, a minor plot/lame stuff wont influence me to regard a movie as shit. Hmm, some might say i might be unintelligent and being a poor audience. Like i give a shit. We watch movies and judge them and share the results with others. So those who havent watch it yet, save ur 2 cents pls. And yeah, starstcream shud get a huge boxes from tesco and stick them to himself so he looks square. Not triangle. criticize how lame is the joke and how it destroy the movie, TF2. This post has been edited by gogo2: Jul 9 2009, 01:59 PM |
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